[qmpierre]

I actually think the spread could be more so amongst the lack of honesty than anything else and the willingness to trust.

Example Dwayne is friends with Magic. Dwayne has HIV but he is being treated so he doesn't feel the need to tell Magic the truth when ask, Magic gets the disease but thinks he is good because Dwayne his homie. Dwayne aint sick. Magic has sex with Peter but Peter is a white top lowering his chance of getting the disease but Magic the next day does Saul who is white bottom passing on the virus and then it spreads and spreads and spreads.

I really wonder if those who are caucasian and latino are having diverse sex instead of just whites only and if they are out or downlow because that will also open up a whole new level of what the stats actually mean.

[Adonis]

Originally posted by qmpierre

Well its also hard to prove it as usually blowjobs lead to other things so it can always be thought to be the anal but still doesn't stop it from happening.

The point is they can't prove that you can actually catch HIV from a blow job in real terms. In the 30 or so years there hasn't even been one case where they could verify oral was the cause of the HIV is powerful. That's the point. Secondly, it's very hard for HIV to live in your mouth under the conditions of the saliva that is there....There is a 99.9% chance your friend is not being completely honest.

[stronger23]

It really annoys me. For the most part. I think a lot of them get infected because they trust somebody who lied about their status

& on the other hand some ppl are so carefree . They go by looks. Hey u sexy AF. U don't look sick , lets ****.

Even in ****. I see way more raw black **** out there.

Like get it together my ppl.

[Adonis]

Originally posted by qmpierre

I actually think the spread could be more so amongst the lack of honesty than anything else and the willingness to trust.

Example Dwayne is friends with Magic. Dwayne has HIV but he is being treated so he doesn't feel the need to tell Magic the truth when ask, Magic gets the disease but thinks he is good because Dwayne his homie. Dwayne aint sick. Magic has sex with Peter but Peter is a white top lowering his chance of getting the disease but Magic the next day does Saul who is white bottom passing on the virus and then it spreads and spreads and spreads.

I really wonder if those who are caucasian and latino are having diverse sex instead of just whites only and if they are out or downlow because that will also open up a whole new level of what the stats actually mean.

If you're on HIV medications and undetectable, it's almost impossible to transmit to another individual. The highest number of new cases come from those people who go untested and spread HIV unwittingly.

60% of youths with HIV don't even know they have it.

[Dessy Fenix]

Originally posted by Nicole

The first time I saw this billboard on the street....

[qmpierre]

Originally posted by Adonis

If you're on HIV medications and undetectable, it's almost impossible to transmit to another individual. The highest number of new cases come from those people who go untested and spread HIV unwittingly.

60% of youths with HIV don't even know they have it.

Yea its not impossible there is still a 4% chance of passing it on to someone and even if your blood is in undetectable doesn't mean your semen is.

[Adonis]

Originally posted by qmpierre

Yea its not impossible there is still a 4% chance of passing it on to someone and even if your blood is in undetectable doesn't mean your semen is.

That is correct. That is why condoms exist to protect yourself and also communication with your partner is also a must.

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On the other hand, you don’t want people to fear HIV as the death knell it was in the 80s and 90s so they don’t avoid HIV tests and people openly living with HIV all together, especially when more than half of young gay men who are HIV-positive are unaware of their status.

So in truth we don't even know the full extent of who has HIV and who doesn't.

[G.U.Y. Gaga]

Originally posted by Nicole

The first time I saw this billboard on the street....

There's a black girl abortion ad where I live like this

But these ads are not ok

[qmpierre]

Originally posted by Adonis

That is correct. That is why condoms exist to protect yourself and also communication with your partner is also a must.

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So in truth we don't even know the full extent of who has HIV and who doesn't.

Which means even though out of the new infections most reported are black males, it could be heavily prelevant in other communities as well. I think more testing could be done if the same stigma associated with Diabetes was associated with HIV. A lot of the fear of being tested is due to the fact of how other people will respond and think of you if you have it. In the gay community, its already hard to get in a strong lasting relationship imagine if you were +. So people don't get tested out of fear of what the answer may hold and just go through life possibly infecting people one by one. Get rid of the Stigma and people will get tested. Hell nowadays HPV is more dangerous than treated HIV.

[Mannequin.Dummy]

Lack of education, lack of resources, sexual stigma, and the belief "it can never happen to me" are all a part of the problem. First many assume because they haven't been tested, they are safe. Not knowing your status and being STD free are not synonymous. Lack of education is very valid, but sadly for many, they are educated, but engage in risky behavior anyway. Horribly enough, a few guys have just assumed we would be having sex without a condom or that we would even be having sex at all.

Another issue is that this demographic is usually concentrated in select cities. Atlanta and DC are hotspots for instance. From my experience gays migrate to these cities once they reach a certain age or profession in life. They usually grow up in these small, "nowhere" towns isolated and withdrawn from gay life, and move to these cities popular among gays. Once in these hotspots they engage in risky behavior because of lack of education, but I also think it's easy to get consumed by the "lust" that lingers in the gay community especially when you've never been in such a surrounding.

On top of that, sexual stigma is a problem period. Not just in the gay community. People with these diseases are finding it hard to be forthcoming because of the stigma attached by society.

[Adonis]

Originally posted by qmpierre

Which means even though out of the new infections most reported are black males, it could be heavily prelevant in other communities as well. I think more testing could be done if the same stigma associated with Diabetes was associated with HIV. A lot of the fear of being tested is due to the fact of how other people will respond and think of you if you have it. In the gay community, its already hard to get in a strong lasting relationship imagine if you were +. So people don't get tested out of fear of what the answer may hold and just go through life possibly infecting people one by one. Get rid of the Stigma and people will get tested. Hell nowadays HPV is more dangerous than treated HIV.

And that was the point of my original post which was clearly lost on one mod who felt it necessary to further bully, single out and stigmatize black gay people explicitly and more than they already are in the gay and black community.

You single out one group and the other group thinks they are immune. Then when the tables flip as they've done before then what? The bottom line is all groups should be featured in these ads and not just one group to be singled out like the topic of this post.

[Teezy]

Originally posted by Mannequin.Dummy

Another issue is that this demographic is usually concentrated in select cities. Atlanta and DC are hotspots for instance. From my experience gays migrate to these cities once they reach a certain age or profession in life. They usually grow up in nowhere towns isolated and withdrawn from gay life, and move to these cities popular among gays. Once in these hotspots they engage in risky behavior because of lack of education, but I also think it's easy to get consumed by the "lust" that lingers in the gay community when you've never been in such a surrounding.

This too. You find so many young gay dudes from small, unnaccepting towns that move to a city like Atlanta and don't know how to handle the kind of acceptance and freedom that the city allows. They legit try to **** whatever they can get, don't worry about repercussions, and end up sick as hell by 27 wondering if the move to ATL was all worth it. It's sad.

[ezra]

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[Hey Gurl Hey]

they don't use/know about protection. This is why we need to have health class in high schools and college (required) that teach in depth about sexual education and not just skim over the topics. We also need to show them about the effects of STD's (show the real side of it and not just talk about what it does) then we'll see the rates slowly go down. Young people of today think they are invincible with everything but sadly the world doesn't work that way.

[RomanNavy]

Originally posted by Adonis

Actually that's not true. He is lying. The condom probably broke or something. No one has ever been proven to catch HIV from swallowing. I know because we had this discussion at the group I spoke of earlier in this thread. While theoretically possible to catch HIV from giving/getting blowjobs. They haven't even had one case where that has happened to date.

I was about to say this getting HIV from oral has never happened it's just a theoritical risk

Originally posted by Adonis

The point is they can't prove that you can actually catch HIV from a blow job in real terms. In the 30 or so years there hasn't even been one case where they could verify oral was the cause of the HIV is powerful. That's the point. Secondly, it's very hard for HIV to live in your mouth under the conditions of the saliva that is there....There is a 99.9% chance your friend is not being completely honest.

There have been several researches of thousands of couples where one person is hiv negative and one person is hiv positive and they all engaged in oral only. There were a LOT of blowjobs without condoms happening but not a single infection.

[Mannequin.Dummy]

Originally posted by Teezy

This too. You find so many young gay dudes from small, unnaccepting towns that move to a city like Atlanta and don't know how to handle the kind of acceptance and freedom that the city allows. They legit try to **** whatever they can get, don't worry about repercussions, and end up sick as hell by 27 wondering if the move to ATL was all worth it. It's sad.

Exactly. Hey boo

[Obsession]

Originally posted by RomanNavy

I was about to say this getting HIV from oral has never happened it's just a theoritical risk

Isn't it only if like you have a cut in your mouth? Like actual blood-semen contact?

[Hey Gurl Hey]

Originally posted by ezra

Great way to help would be to ignore the PC nonsense and, if you love your gay black friends, ask them to get tested! You can have it for a while and not know, thus spreading it and putting your health at risk. By ignoring the elephant in the room and trying to be PC about it you're literally the worst friend they could have. And if you're a white gay you might as well take your own ass to get tested too because the rates are nearly just as high (unless you aren't sexually active or you know they aren't then don't bother obvs).

But yeah this is due to a huge lack of education, "down low" culture, homophobia in the black community and racism from every other direction.

summed up very nicely

[Ace Reject]

Originally posted by ezra

Ace his thread getting reported

It's been so respectful so far! Proud of y'all for treating this serious topic with respect and delicacy, particularly Teezy and Damien M. (You too ezra! Seriously surprised in a good way at your decorum here. )

Proud of y'all!

[RomanNavy]

Originally posted by Obsession

Isn't it only if like you have a cut in your mouth? Like actual blood-semen contact?

Even then you'd have to get a LOTTTT of infected *** in that cut. Besides that the saliva will probably kill the virus before it even gets inside the cut so.