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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016
Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Bloo
Then why is it that she said this point a long time ago before anyone else did?  |
Well she also said terrible insults about her opponents supporters, which cost her.
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by midnightdawn
Well she also said terrible insults about her opponents supporters, which cost her.
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It's amazing that that very tame, politically incorrect, true statement "cost her" but all of Trump's deplorable remarks and actions didn't. It says a lot about people, in my mind.
She said nothing but call them for some of them are: racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, etc. She said nothing else. If it didn't cross your mind that there might be "racist" Americans out there that were thrilled by Trump saying racists things, then you're too generous to people in general.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by midnightdawn
Wow Bernie always manages to hit the nail on the head. Hillary doesn't have the depth or insight to say things like that.
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You're always full of ****. Anybody who's read the full quote can see that she's actually standing up for the anti-establishment ones and asking people to separate them from the deplorable ones. She never once said all Trump supporters are deplorable as he's clearly implying. That's exactly the Hillary character assassination from Bernie I'm always talking about.
There's a reason Trump credited Bernie for many of his anti-Hillary lines.
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Originally posted by midnightdawn
Well she also said terrible insults about her opponents supporters, which cost her.
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That's the damn deplorable quote. there's no "also"
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Bloo
It's amazing that that very tame, politically incorrect, true statement "cost her" but all of Trump's deplorable remarks and actions didn't. It says a lot about people, in my mind.
She said nothing but call them for some of them are: racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, etc. She said nothing else. If it didn't cross your mind that there might be "racist" Americans out there that were thrilled by Trump saying racists things, then you're too generous to people in general.
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Well she also said they were irredeemable. When I first heard it on CNN I thought what on earth are you doing, you're leading the Presidential race with two months to go, if you want to drag those people do it when you've won, not at this stage of the race, it's going to give them more ammunition against you.
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Member Since: 12/29/2011
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I'm tired of all the pandering to Trump voters, not speaking out against and rejecting a racist and bigot is just as bad as being one yourself. DEPLORABLES!!!!!
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by midnightdawn
Well she also said they were irredeemable. When I first heard it on CNN I thought what on earth are you doing, you're leading the Presidential race with two months to go, if you want to drag those people do it when you've won, not at this stage of the race, it's going to give them more ammunition against you.
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If you get excited over someone being a blatant racist and love when he calls Mexicans "rapists" and "criminals", you're an irredeemable racist. If that offends anyone, find a safe space.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Bernie speaks the truth again 
Go pick up his book, currently #1 on Amazon's Human Rights books 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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The problem is Bernie is obviously trying to throw her under the bus by acting like she called pompously hard working folks deplorable. Why? Because he's a snake to expand his appeal when that was a narrative the media and Trump campaign ran with.
He'd better stay away from 2020 or I S2G.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Lord Blackout
The problem is Bernie is obviously trying to throw her under the bus by acting like she called pompously hard working folks deplorable. Why? Because he's a snake to expand his appeal when that was a narrative the media and Trump campaign ran with.
He'd better stay away from 2020 or I S2G.
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what are "pompously hard-working folks?"  pompous doesn't fit here
anyway, his criticism of her in those comments was spot-on and it was part of the same criticism he had about her throughout the primary cycle - that her economic platform was lacking in substance and didn't speak to all Americans, but rather, many subgroups of Americans. as misplaced and delusional as Trump's economic platform may have been, at least he had one.
poor Hillary thought she could win on a platform of "I'm not Donald Trump," "It's my turn to be president/I've paid my dues," and "I'm not a racist" (she actually is a racist). Delusional.
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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Originally posted by Danny789
I'm tired of all the pandering to Trump voters, not speaking out against and rejecting a racist and bigot is just as bad as being one yourself. DEPLORABLES!!!!!
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have you seen Hillary's wrap sheet? allegations (Trump) vs having proof(Clinton). Don't be a sheep sis, do your rihsearch and get with the winning team. xo.
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Originally posted by lightstheyblindme
what are "pompously hard-working folks?" pompous doesn't fit here
anyway, his criticism of her in those comments was spot-on and it was part of the same criticism he had about her throughout the primary cycle - that her economic platform was lacking in substance and didn't speak to all Americans, but rather, many subgroups of Americans. as misplaced and delusional as Trump's economic platform may have been, at least he had one.
poor Hillary thought she could win on a platform of "I'm not Donald Trump," "It's my turn to be president/I've paid my dues," and "I'm not a racist" (she actually is a racist). Delusional.
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Sorry, meant to place pompously before called.
And you damn well that's not what he meant. He's using the republican lie that she called half of the country deplorable because most of the WWC won't look up the full quote anyway and the media is pathetically dishonest. He's trying to win Trump's crowd at her expense just like he did during the primary.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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We're not winning 2020 at this point and don't get me started on 2018 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Obama is lowkey right though. He would have won. He only needed 70,000 votes in the rust belt.
But meh it's all hypothetical now so who cares.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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I used to really hate Bernie Sanders because of his economic policies. But I've come to realise that he would definitely be a better person to be in charge than Hillary Clinton and maybe even (from my perspective) Donald Trump. Bernie Sanders would definitely have won by attracting the Jill Stein and Gary Johnson protest voters and some of the people who otherwise would have been afraid about what the media said about Donald Trump. Had someone like Ted Cruz won the Republican primaries, the defeat would have been even easier.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Wonderland
Obama is lowkey right though. He would have won. He only needed 70,000 votes in the rust belt.
But meh it's all hypothetical now so who cares.
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Blacks alone would have given him a win had he kept all of Hillary's voters including educated whites. He wouldn't need uneducated whites like he did in previous elections.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Oh, and Bernie really has a chance to win in 2020 if he runs. Donald Trump objectively speaking, lacks political experience and will be prone to persuasion because of his former experience as a businessman. Some people may really dislike it and feel betrayed (especially the working class whites from Michigan), which will push them to voting Dem. Still, President Trump hasn't taken office yet so it's very hard to tell.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Dems need to drop the Mean Girls Drag Race library is open teas or we'll turn into Jeremy Corbyn/Labour 
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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Honestly, Hillary lost cause of her baggage. That's just keeping it 100.
The fact that she lost by so little means she always had the ball in her corner until the late hours of the game where it did a slight flip. Without all the Bill and Comey mess, Donald's sex scandals would have drowned him. And to top it with the fact that Obama could go on the offensive, whereas Hillary played it safe lest her volatile campaign devolved into a Donald-sized mess with the sexual assault stuff.
We needed someone to square up to Donald. Tit for tat. Not lecture him and the world on his bad manners.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by LuLuDrops
Dems need to drop the Mean Girls Drag Race library is open teas or we'll turn into Jeremy Corbyn/Labour |
Nn the way a certain always bitter person tried to start a Hillary vs Obama firing squad. As if that's what the party needs now.
Have you been keeping up with the Perez vs Elison fight? It's basically another firing squad. I support Elison but it's hilarious
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Yeah we need bitchiness vs bitchiness now in the Dem GOP race. What have we got to lose?
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