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Chart Listings: Billboard Hot 100 Singles (August 27-September 3, 2014)
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Originally posted by fridayteenage
And how could you have posted it 47854158 times with 223 posts?
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Originally posted by popmusic
I posted it 47854158 times. Current Hot100 formula(for current streaming) is:
Points = Sales[k]*4.5 + AI[M]*6 + Streaming[M]*89.5
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Let me try this formula if it's accurate
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Originally posted by Ger-55
Let me try this formula if it's accurate
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As I already said, it's essentially identical to the formula I have, except he multipled everything by 4.5, and for some reason has 89.5 rather than 90.
So it would come out to basically the same thing.
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Originally posted by fridayteenage
As I already said, it's essentially identical to the formula I have, except he multipled everything by 4.5, and for some reason has 89.5 rather than 90.
So it would come out to basically the same thing.
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Well, the % on the formula you gave us (and I use ) sometimes don't match for like 1-2% but the points always are accurate to the positions got on Billboard, so we'll see. If this is more approximated to the real result it's going to be good
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Originally posted by Thomasuxx
Streaming wasn't included yet back then
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Actually, On-Demand audio streaming was a part of the charts by the time "Gangham Style" reached number two on the Hot 100 in the summer of 2012. However, video streaming was not added in until March 2013. Billboard actually did it in three steps, briefly adding in non On-Demand audio streams for a few weeks prior to the last step of adding videos.
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Originally posted by Ger-55
Well, the % on the formula you gave us (and I use ) sometimes don't match for like 1-2% but the points always are accurate to the positions got on Billboard, so we'll see. If this is more approximated to the real result it's going to be good
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So I did it and they show the same results actually, so whatever of those formulas are right tbh
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Originally posted by toshibatoshiba
Looks like they lowered streaming? I always thought 100,000 sales equal to 5 million streaming. With this new formula, 544,000 digital sales now equal to 70 to 72 million in streaming. In this case, 100,000 is now equal to 7.5 million streaming?
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Billboard changed the formula at the end of the 2013 Chart Year because streaming had become too dominant in the formula used to rank songs {Harlem Shuffle [not being bitter, just making a point], and Wrecking Ball), so at the beginning of the 2014, the magazine did re-weigh the formula to reduce the effect of streaming.
Also, since On-Demand is always mentioned separately, I feel fairly certain those streams are weighted higher than those from You Tube and Vevo. I could be wrong, but Billboard mentions the two steaming totals separately every week. Since I agree On Demand streams should weigh more heavily than video streaming, and many of us on here feel the same way, Billboard may be listening to the fan base here.
It is getting close to the start of the 2015 Chart Year. I think Billboard will reduce Airplay's factor in the formula and increase Sales. I am not sure how the website will handle Streaming. The overall Streaming totals, audio and video combined, have not increased that much, but the songs topping the On-Demand Chart now regularly reach around three million streams, where as 12-18 months ago, the Number Ones on On-Demand rarely exceeded two million.
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New Estimates coming up, all I can say right now if that the battle for the #1...
60% Shake It Off
40% Anaconda
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Is Anaconda really a contender for #1 next week??
Isn't SIO ahead of sales and Airplay??
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I really want Black Widow to go top 5 next week !!!!
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Originally posted by Super_freddie
Is Anaconda really a contender for #1 next week??
Isn't SIO ahead of sales and Airplay??
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Yes, it really is. But Anaconda is a Streaming Monster, even it went viral last week it's like going to pull some 46M views this week worldwide, which is absolutely huge, also increasing on Spotify (it's going to gain like 1M from Spotify alone).
The good thing for Anaconda is Streaming. I'm thinking 23.6M streams for Anaconda VS 11.8M for Shake It Off. And those are a lot of streams of difference
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hope Anaconda will reach no. 1 <3
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Originally posted by Ger-55
Yes, it really is. But Anaconda is a Streaming Monster, even it went viral last week it's like going to pull some 46M views this week worldwide, which is absolutely huge, also increasing on Spotify (it's going to gain like 1M from Spotify alone).
The good thing for Anaconda is Streaming. I'm thinking 23.6M streams for Anaconda VS 11.8M for Shake It Off. And those are a lot of streams of difference
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The difference was bigger last week and SIO still got #1
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@ Iggy's work still in the top 100 @ 73 the smash that got away
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Originally posted by Mr. Loco
The difference was bigger last week and SIO still got #1
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But, SIO had far superior sales and airplay. It'll have both lower sales and slightly lower airplay (I assume, not really watching its radio performance tbh) this week as well as weaker streams while Anaconda will have slightly higher sales and airplay with weaker streams but still very strong streams. It could pull in 10-25 million US streams this week while most US acts pull in less than 10 million their first week.
No one is saying it is a guaranteed #1 nor is there a 50% chance for SIO and 50% chance for Anaconda but instead some (myself included) think that this week is its real chance at #1 and the chances are something more like 60% for SIO and 40% for Anaconda as Ger suggested.
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Originally posted by Mr. Loco
The difference was bigger last week and SIO still got #1
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It's because SIO had a much bigger gap sales-wise. Duh!
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Hoping for Anaconda to be #1
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Originally posted by fridayteenage
That seems so arbitrary that I can't believe it.
I mean, 1 sale= 50 streams= 750 audience impressions works neatly. 1*50*15.
89.5? 4.5? 6? Doesn't work as well.
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It works on current data(Billboard formula changes every week). I wrote simpy software in C++ to find it out:
http://pastebin.com/phf4AeH6
The conditions:
* Sales/Streaming/AI data & position on chart.
* Points ratios(%), e.g. "With "Rude" down by 7 percent in overall Hot 100 points and "Bass" up by a hefty 29 percent, the latter should be ready to overtake the former next week. " or "Sales account for the majority (55 percent) of the Hot 100 chart points for "Bass," but it's surging across-the-board"
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#1. Iggy Azalea feat. Rita Ora - “Black Widow” - 141,936 (741,790)
#2. Nicki Minaj - “Anaconda” - 120,003 (312,927)
#3. Iggy Azalea feat. Charli XCX - “Fancy” - 67,695 (3,483,543)
#4. Jeremih feat. YG - “Don’t Tell ‘Em” - 66,280 (402,251)
#5. Drake - “0 To 100/The Catch Up” - 41,465 (270,889)
#6. Pharrell Williams - “Happy” - 38,633 (6,143,501)
#7. John Legend - “All Of Me” - 36,823 (4,708,552)
#8. Chris Brown feat. Usher & Rick Ross - “New Flame” - 27,597 (302,952)
#9. T.I. feat. Iggy Azalea - “No Mediocre” - 27,456 (302,952)
#10. Tinashe feat. ScHoolboy Q - “2 On” - 26,043 (472,431)
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Originally posted by Ger-55
Someone please post Digital, Radio and Streaming Songs Top 50
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