[rivers]

Originally posted by ezra

You're conflating race with people's thoughts and ideas (feminism). Of course you shouldn't say all whites are bad because there's one bad white out there.

And yeah, maybe most feminists don't believe this stuff. Maybe. But they sure don't make that clear among all the rhetoric of "men get paid more than me for the same work" and "men need to be taught not to be rapists". This is radical stuff. Sorry, I disagree with it.

Telling a man to not rape is radical? You learn something new everyday.

[rivers]

Originally posted by Temporal

um what

It's Ezra's argument, not mine

[Bloo]

Originally posted by ezra

You're conflating race with people's thoughts and ideas (feminism). Of course you shouldn't say all whites are bad because there's one bad white out there.

And yeah, maybe most feminists don't believe this stuff. Maybe. But they sure don't make that clear among all the rhetoric of "men get paid more than me for the same work" and "men need to be taught not to be rapists". This is radical stuff. Sorry, I disagree with it.

Oh, dear god... Suddenly it's radical to point out verifiable data that men do get paid more than women, on average... And that saying men shouldn't be rapists is radical as well. Using your poor idea of rhetoric, an issue is only worth solving if everyone is part of the issues. You know, slavery should never have been abolished because not all white people had slaves (according to your logic).

[Ramcoro]

Originally posted by ezra

Because it assumes that all boys are rapists? It assumes boys need to be taught not to rape because they're innately dangerous and rapists? Hello?

Um, no. No one is assuming that. It's akin to teaching kids not to steal or bully. Not all kids do that, but might as well target the while population, since you can't do a test to see who will rape and who won't.

[Temporal]

Originally posted by rivers

It's Ezra's argument, not mine

Okay, that's what I was hoping

I have him on ignore so i cant see ha

[Ramcoro]

Originally posted by Tsuko

Other feminists need to shun, publicly ridicule and expel her from feminism. If they let her share the same title as them then I assume that they support what she said.

We need two terms. One for the movement that really is for equal rights, and another for the movement which is about female supremacy.

I used to call myself a feminist when I thought it was for equal rights but when I've seem some of the things that some high-profile feminists have said I can't be part of that group anymore.

I support equal rights for men and women, that's why I'm NOT a feminist.

Who is saying anything about female supremacy?

[ezra]

Originally posted by Ramcoro

Um, no. No one is assuming that. It's akin to teaching kids not to steal or bully. Not all kids do that, but might as well target the while population, since you can't do a test to see who will rape and who won't.

Do women need to be taught not to kill their children? On average, children are killed by their mothers or other female caregivers more often than by men. Should we have giant "Women - stop killing kids" campaigns and classes at college where we teach women there's a child killing culture and that they need to be taught not to kill kids?

It sounds really sexist when you flip it! Glad I'm here to show you your bigotry. You're welcome.

edit: more stats about the above

The DHHS data shows that of children abused by one parent between 2001 and 2006, 70.6% were abused by their mothers, whereas only 29.4% were abused by their fathers.
And of children who died at the hands of one parent between 2001 and 2006, 70.8% were killed by their mothers, whereas only 29.2% were killed by their fathers.
Furthermore, contrary to media portrayals that leave the viewer with the impression that only girls are ever harmed, boys constituted fully 60% of child fatalities.

https://www.mensrightshalifax.com/in...ed-more-often/

[ezra]

All women are paid equally. All women think the same and support the same thing. All women are unhappy in the workplace. All women have equal rights to men. All women don't want to have careers.

I've never made any claim like these. I've said that feminism has contributed to female unhappiness (not every women duh) and yeah I'm not responding to people who are going to make up things I never said. I never said all women don't want careers either. Just that it looks like a majority (i.e. not ALL) of women don't pursue work in the same way as men when given the choice.

[Ramcoro]

Originally posted by ezra

Do women need to be taught not to kill their children? On average, children are killed by their mothers or other female caregivers more often than by men. Should we have giant "Women - stop killing kids" campaigns and classes at college where we teach women there's a child killing culture and that they need to be taught not to kill kids?

It sounds really sexist when you flip it! Glad I'm here to show you your bigotry. You're welcome.

edit: more stats about the above

https://www.mensrightshalifax.com/in...ed-more-often/

Sure. I don't mind teaching child development classes to all teenagers in middle and/or high school. That way "accidents" happens less often. Btw it's probably disproportionate because females are more likely to be the care takers.

[Ramcoro]

Originally posted by ezra

I've never made any claim like these. I've said that feminism has contributed to female unhappiness (not every women duh) and yeah I'm not responding to people who are going to make up things I never said. I never said all women don't want careers either. Just that it looks like a majority (i.e. not ALL) of women don't pursue work in the same way as men when given the choice.

Yet, you didn't respond to the NYTimes article I posted stating female lawyers/doctors get paid significantly less than their male counterparts.

[ezra]

Originally posted by Ramcoro

Sure. I don't mind teaching child development classes to all teenagers in middle and/or high school. That way "accidents" happens less often. Btw it's probably disproportionate because females are more likely to be the care takers.

Any evidence that these useless classes actually help at all or are we just to assume a class will solve the problems Children, your lives are in the hands of child development curriculum

I think it's a lot deeper than that. As is rape. I don't think it's necessary to teach girls not to kill kids. They already know it's wrong to kill kids. Same goes for boys and rape.

Vote for Trump!

[ezra]

Originally posted by Ramcoro

Yet, you didn't respond to the NYTimes article I posted stating female lawyers/doctors get paid significantly less than their male counterparts.

Yeah. I'm working on that one. Reading a NYTimes article is painful. It's riddled with lies and barely has any sources that aren't misconstrued For example that Labor Stats link about janitors ...half the data is missing

[Ramcoro]

Originally posted by ezra

Any evidence that these useless classes actually help at all or are we just to assume a class will solve the problems Children, your lives are in the hands of child development curriculum

I think it's a lot deeper than that. As is rape. I don't think it's necessary to teach girls not to kill kids. They already know it's wrong to kill kids. Same goes for boys and rape.

Vote for Trump!

Of course women (and men) generally know it's wrong to kill their kids, as men know it's wrong to rape. That's why I said accidents will happen less. Curriculum shouldn't be the only method, but it's better than nothing! Because apparently it's a big problem that you care a lot about since you posted that link!

Same thing with rape. Men know rape is bad, but there is actually confusion on what rape is. A Oklahoma Court just said that it is not rape to have sex with a women that is unconscious. that idea is shared by a lot of men.

[cherylcole]

The thing about teaching boys not to rape is that with a lot of rape that happens, the rapist doesn't consider what he's doing to be rape. Many people think if a woman is passed out drunk and you have sex with her without her consent that it's not rape. Many men think that if a woman initially agrees to sex and then later changes her mind, and he continues, that it's not rape.

[ezra]

fff @ The fine-toothed comb approach. I'm one person.

What I was saying (and my citation about gender happiness confirms it) is that women's happiness relies less upon having high salaries and a job than it does with men. Basically, having a job doesn't appear to make MOST women happier. In fact, it could be argued that it's making them more unhappy (especially if they're doing both the job and the housework/child rearing). Feminism has tried pushing women into the workplace and it seems like most women don't want that.

[Ramcoro]

Originally posted by ezra

Yeah. I'm working on that one. Reading a NYTimes article is painful. It's riddled with lies and barely has any sources that aren't misconstrued For example that Labor Stats link about janitors ...half the data is missing

More reliable and trustworthy than "mensrigjtsfelix.com"

[ezra]

Originally posted by Ramcoro

Same thing with rape. Men know rape is bad, but there is actually confusion on what rape is. A Oklahoma Court just said that it is not rape to have sex with a women that is unconscious. that idea is shared by a lot of men.

True. And that's very wrong. I was also taught in my required Gender Studies consent day that if I had sex drunk I was raped (and that I was a rapist if I had sex with a drunk guy) Welp. Take me away, officers.

Thing is, the dumb thing you're talking about isn't being taught in colleges. The one I'm bringing up is mandatory in college classrooms to be brainwashed by. Liberals support this stuff and that's another reason I'm voting Trump!

[ezra]

Originally posted by Ramcoro

More reliable and trustworthy than "mensrigjtsfelix.com"

They're citing data from DHHS

[Retro]

Can we talk for 12 seconds about how offensive it is to say that women don't want careers, or how if they statistically didn't want careers it would be due to the pressures of a super sexist society that's pigeonholed women into family roles for centuries?

[LuLuDrops]

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