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Chart Listings: Spotify/YouTube/Streaming Discussion Thread
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Originally posted by brianc33616
Just because Spotify hasn't met a successful competitor yet with Tidal and RDIO bombing doesn't mean Spotify isn't facing challenges from the labels who want more revenue than the Freemium model can provide. Apple Music has been the most successful competitor yet, and if the labels can't generate the revenue they need from Spotify on it's Freemium tier, then Spotify may stop getting much of the music withheld -- not from the artists but from the record companies themselves, to force Spotify to a pay only service. Music revenues are flat because sales for CDs, Digital Albums & Digital Singles are all down, and far too many on Spotify are opting for the Freemuim service. If the record labels aren't getting their money, we won't get their music. Those are the laws of economics.
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All the markets that have embraced streaming are increasing 
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Originally posted by iHype.
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IFPI Sweden - Swedish recorded music market up 4.2 per cent in first half of 2015
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Italian recorded music market up 22 per cent in the first half of 2015
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BVMI - German music industry up 4.4 per cent
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Norwegian recorded music market sees growth of 6.5 per cent in first half of 2015
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U.S. OVERALL MUSIC CONSUMPTION—LED BY GROWTH IN ON-DEMAND STREAMING—HELP POWER A 14% LIFT FROM LAST YEAR
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Album equivalent is also up 3% in UK this year because Streaming.
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Album Sales:
2014: 38.1M | 2015: 36.1M (-5.25%)
Track Equivalent Albums:
2014: 8.18M | 2015: 7.18M (-12.3%)
Streaming Equivalent Albums:
2014: 6.4M | 2015: 11.49M (+79.5%)
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2014: 52.68M | 2015: 54.77M (+4%)
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US has been pretty stable this year and AM will help a lot. The only countries still freefalling are the ones that have rejected streaming (like Japan)
And about the labels, I don't get where is everyone getting this "The labels are mad and want to destroy streaming" tea but look at the UMG report:
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Originally posted by iHype.
UNIVERSAL HITS HISTORIC DIGITAL TIPPING POINT AS STREAMING JUMPS 34%
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It’s a big day for Lucian Grainge: Universal Music Group’s recorded music revenues grew 15.2% in the first six months of 2015 – as a boom in streaming income transformed it into a truly digital-first enterprise.
At a time when UMG remains locked in licensing negotiations with Spotify and other services, the major saw its total revenues from streaming – across ad-funded and subscription – leap up by 34% in H1 2015.
This was more than enough to offset drops in physical sales, from which income fell 7.4% (at constant currency/perimeter), and downloads, which were down 5% on the same basis.
Music publishing revenue at UMPG was up 2.7% at constant currency/perimeter to €352m, which Universal pinned on “improvements in digital and performance revenues”.
Meanwhile, merchandising revenues grew 3.2% at constant currency/perimeter to €132m.
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And that's only from iHype's posts in this thread It really blows my mind how people want to make Spotify/Streaming the enemy
I get Taylor's point about the value of music but the whole labels/artists are not getting enough money is nonsense.
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Updating now. It's a 2-day update. 
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09/30/2015
2-DAY UPDATE
1. Hotline Bling (870,734) *4 days at #1*^^
2. The Hills (839,426)
3. What Do You Mean? (818,763)
4. Can't Feel My Face (669,453)
5. 679 (584,156)
6. Jumpman (+2) (559,067) *New peak (3 in a row)* *+36 in last 4 days* *No decreases since debut*^^^
7. Stitches (501,591)
8. Trap Queen (-2) (448,281)
9. Again (+1) (441,715) *Matches peak*
10. On My Mind (+7) (414,233)
11. Good For You (412,170)
12. Lean On (-3) (411,934)
13. Locked Away (-1) (392,632)
14. Diamonds Dancing (+6) (391,775) *New peak (3 in a row)* *+27 in last 4 days* *No decreases since debut*^^^
15. Big Rings (+7) (386,825) *New peak (2 in a row)* *+14 in last 3 days* *No decreases since debut*^^^
16. Back To Back (-3) (373,905)
17. Love Myself (+1) (349,510)
18. Digital Dash (+11) (347,297) *New peak (2 in a row)* *+14 in last 3 days* *No decreases since debut^^^
19. Downtown (340,874)
20. My Way (-6) (340,108)
21. Where Are U Now (-6) (338,974)
22. Drag Me Down (-6) (333,101)
23. Live From The Gutter (+10) (330,391) *New peak (2 in a row)* *+14 in last 3 days* *No decreases since debut^^^
24. RGF Island (-3) (326,323)
25. Scholarships (+13) (319,991) *New peak (2 in a row)* *+21 in last 3 days* *No decreases since debut^^^
26. Right Hand (306,872) *Breaks streak of 10 new peaks in a row* *Currently at peak*
27. How Deep Is Your Love (-3) (299,523)
28. I'm The Plug (+16) (298,029) *New peak* *+19 in last 3 days*
29. Here (+3) (292,198) *New peak* *+11 in last 3 days*
30. Plastic Bag (+19) (289,184) *New peak* *+19 in last 2 days* *Debuted 2 days ago*
31. Infinity (-8) (288,742)
32. Earned It (-2) (285,722)
33. Cheerleader (-8) (283,308)
34. Photograph (+6) (280,111)
35. Renegades (-1) (275,041)
36. Often (274,869)
37. Flex (Ooh, Ooh, Ooh) (-10) (269,746)
38. All Eyes On You (-7) (265,564)
39. Drake & Future - Change Locations (DEBUT) (265,422)
40. Marvin Gaye (-3) (264,959)
41. No Role Modelz (263,164)
42. Future - Jersey (DEBUT) (255,202)
43. Planes (-1) (254,929)
44. Same Old Love (+2) (252,142)
45. Where Ya At (-2) (246,898)
46. Drake - 30 For 30 Freestyle (DEBUT) (245,066)
47. New Americana (+3) (242,824)
48. Classic Man (-13) (242,007) *-18 in last 3 days*
49. White Iverson (-1) (240,172)
50. This Could Be Us (-5) (239,310) *-17 in last 3 days*
^^We know this because Spotify shows Hotline Bling's position as unchanged relative to yesterday.
^^^Not guaranteed (because we don't know what happened yesterday), but assumed based on position trends.
Dropouts
28. Watch Me (Whip / Nae Nae)
39. Cool For The Summer
47. Antidote
Total plays of the Top 10:
6,147,419 (+81,623 from yesterday)
Total plays of the Top 50:
18,264,233 (+999,589 from yesterday)
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Spaniards never got fooled by the 'digital purchase' nonsense. 
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Latin American countries have also been hit by piracy quite hard. Streaming services are available in several countries here but not mine. 
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10/01/2015
1. Hotline Bling (909,013) *5 days at #1*
2. The Hills (859,022)
3. What Do You Mean? (826,967)
4. Can't Feel My Face (690,134)
5. Jumpman (+1) (616,276) *New peak (4 in a row)* *+37 in last 5 days* *No decreases since debut*
6. 679 (-1) (615,408)
7. Stitches (516,734)
8. Trap Queen (472,634)
9. Again (454,817)
10. Lean On (+2) (442,855)
11. Good For You (427,715)
12. Locked Away (+1) (409,202)
13. Big Rings (+2) (393,727) *New peak (3 in a row)* *+16 in last 4 days* *No decreases since debut*
14. On My Mind (-4) (391,230)
15. Diamonds Dancing (-1) (390,626) *Reached a new peak yesterday*
16. Back To Back (380,680)
17. Love Myself (353,904)
18. My Way (+2) (351,758)
19. Where Are U Now (+2) (349,335)
20. Drag Me Down (+2) (344,706)
21. Downtown (-2) (342,593)
22. Digital Dash (-4) (322,076) *Reached a new peak yesterday*
23. Right Hand (+3) (320,249) *New peak*
24. Live From The Gutter (-1) (317,791)
25. Scholarships (315,930) *Currently at peak*
26. RGF Island (-2) (315,312)
27. Here (+2) (304,955) *New peak (2 in a row)* *+14 in last 4 days*
28. How Deep Is Your Love (-1) (304,134)
29. Cheerleader (+4) (301,069)
30. I'm The Plug (-2) (296,535) *Reached a new peak yesterday*
31. Earned It (+1) (296,128)
32. Photograph (+2) (293,411)
33. Plastic Bag (-3) (289,314) *Reached a new peak yesterday*
34. No Role Modelz (+7) (287,725)
35. Flex (Ooh, Ooh, Ooh) (+2) (285,007)
36. Often (283,196)
37. Renegades (-2) (277,369)
38. All Eyes On You (275,669)
39. Marvin Gaye (+1) (266,329)
40. Planes (+3) (266,061)
41. Change Locations (-2) (265,468) *Debuted yesterday*
42. Infinity (-11) (263,750) *-19 in last 2 days*
43. Where Ya At (+2) (262,090)
44. This Could Be Us (+6) (257,544)
45. New Americana (+2) (256,663)
46. Same Old Love (-2) (256,115)
47. White Iverson (+2) (255,954)
48. Jersey (-6) (254,271) *Debuted yesterday*
49. Classic Man (-1) (253,278)
50. Antidote (re-entry) (243,682)
Dropouts
46. 30 For 30 Freestyle *Debuted yesterday*
Total plays of the Top 10:
6,403,860 (+256,441 from yesterday)
Total plays of the Top 50:
18,726,411 (+462,178 from yesterday)
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Is this the first time Fetty has 3 songs in the top 10? I remember it being Trap Queen and 679 for the longest
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Is this the first time Fetty has 3 songs in the top 10? I remember it being Trap Queen and 679 for the longest
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In early August there were some days where My Way, 679, and Trap Queen were all in the top 10. August 11 for example:
1. Can't Feel My Face (756,564) *32 charts at #1*
2. 679 (619,585)
3. The Hills (603,819)
4. Lean On (546,772)
5. Good For You (+2) (505,698)
6. Cheerleader (-1) (505,688)
7. Drag Me Down (+1) (503,528)
8. Trap Queen (-2) (446,579)
9. Where Are U Now (438,308)
10. My Way (385,385)
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They added a new country (Estonia) to countries with Top 50s today. 
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Estonia, what's good?
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Originally posted by Katy V.!
All the markets that have embraced streaming are increasing
US has been pretty stable this year and AM will help a lot. The only countries still freefalling are the ones that have rejected streaming (like Japan)
And about the labels, I don't get where is everyone getting this "The labels are mad and want to destroy streaming" tea but look at the UMG report:
And that's only from iHype's posts in this thread It really blows my mind how people want to make Spotify/Streaming the enemy
I get Taylor's point about the value of music but the whole labels/artists are not getting enough money is nonsense. |
The crux of my argument dealt with why paid streaming will ultimately completely replace the freemium model, almost certainly before the end of 2016. I only mentioned downloads and CDs in my post to provide recent examples of revenue available to which have dramatically and rapidly dried up for the record labels.
I'm not going to bother continuing this argument. It's simply not worth it, just a week after my neck operation (not seeking sympathy, simply stating facts) to waste my time searching for all of the sources I have read through this year backing the problems with freemium. I'm done, the future will prove who's right.
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10/02/2015 ( Archive)
1. Hotline Bling (930,424) *6 days at #1*
2. The Hills (858,336)
3. What Do You Mean? (821,700)
4. Can't Feel My Face (679,582)
5. 679 (+1) (626,430)
6. Jumpman (-1) (593,240) *Reached a new peak yesterday* *First decrease since debut*
7. Stitches (513,410)
8. Trap Queen (492,259)
9. Again (461,332)
10. Lean On (446,792)
11. Good For You (441,348)
12. On My Mind (+2) (406,227)
13. Locked Away (-1) (405,593)
14. Diamonds Dancing (+1) (384,189) *Matches peak*
15. Back To Back (+1) (380,871)
16. Big Rings (-3) (373,209) *Reached a new peak yesterday* *First decrease since debut*
17. Drag Me Down (+3) (361,026)
18. My Way (360,161)
19. Love Myself (-2) (346,933)
20. Where Are U Now (-1) (346,572)
21. Downtown (338,252)
22. Right Hand (+1) *New peak (2 in a row)* (319,906)
23. RGF Island (+3) (315,572)
24. Digital Dash (-2) (314,190)
25. Here (+2) (306,884) *New peak (3 in a row)* *+16 in last 5 days*
26. How Deep Is Your Love (+2) (306,233)
27. Earned It (+4) (297,217)
28. Cheerleader (+1) (292,717)
29. I'm The Plug (+1) (289,868)
30. No Role Modelz (+4) (288,846) *+11 in last 2 days*
31. Scholarships (-6) (286,082)
32. Live From The Gutter (-8) (285,947)
33. Flex (Ooh, Ooh, Ooh) (+2) (284,540)
34. Often (+2) (281,536)
35. All Eyes On You (+3) (276,393)
36. Renegades (+1) (273,606)
37. Planes (+3) (271,288)
38. Photograph (-6) (270,111)
39. Change Locations (+2) (267,881)
40. New Americana (+5) (266,631)
41. Marvin Gaye (-2) (261,899)
42. Where Ya At (+1) (261,539)
43. White Iverson (+4) (259,623) *New peak*
44. This Could Be Us (259,477)
45. Plastic Bag (-12) (258,195)
46. Classic Man (+3) (257,938)
47. Infinity (-5) (250,888) *-24 in last 3 days*
48. Same Old Love (-2) (250,561)
49. Antidote (+1) (245,806)
50. Cool For The Summer (re-entry) (243,174)
Dropouts
48. Jersey *Debuted 2 days ago*
Total plays of the Top 10:
6,423,505 (+19,645 from yesterday)
Total plays of the Top 50:
18,612,434 (-113,977 from yesterday)
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Infinity. 
1D always finds success with their first single, after that it's downhill with them.
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I just started using Spotify and I was poking around and found a Discover Weekly playlist. Is this compiled the same for everybody or did Spotify make it just for me?
If they made it for me... 
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I just started using Spotify and I was poking around and found a Discover Weekly playlist. Is this compiled the same for everybody or did Spotify make it just for me?
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Same for everybody.
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Originally posted by Bloomers
I just started using Spotify and I was poking around and found a Discover Weekly playlist. Is this compiled the same for everybody or did Spotify make it just for me?
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It is the same for everybody, you'll find good and bad music there. Do remember we all don't have the same taste.
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