[Peep Show]

Can we please close this thread, it's not going anywhere...

[i spit on haters]

Originally posted by Cas

How should I understand that then?

She had little to zero mainstream appeal until the label manufactured her. Even during the GGGB era everything was about her fashion (solely thanx to her stylist) and hairstyle rather than the music + performances. Her new image gave her commercial appeal which she clearly lacked during her first two "mix tapes" -- the general public didn't really take notice of her until GGGB. Prior to then, she was pretty unknown to the masses until 'Umbrella' made her a household name.

[Monk]

Originally posted by Peep Show

Can we please close this thread, it's not going anywhere...

It's basically another SYG

[MiMiLAMb!]

Well she's the only female artist to have 11 number 1 singles & no number 1 album

[SaDaré]

People (rihanna fans) NEVER have a logical explanation for anything. It's always "Why Are you pressed" .. Red Hair IS NOT Iconic by any means. Rihanna has yet to do something Iconic. Point. Blank. Period. Maybe in the near future...Maybe

[Callisto.]

What has Rihanna done that's iconic?

She was born.

[i spit on haters]

Originally posted by SaDaré

People (rihanna fans) NEVER have a logical explanation for anything. It's always "Why Are you pressed" .. Red Hair IS NOT Iconic by any means. Rihanna has yet to do something Iconic. Point. Blank. Period. Maybe in the near future...Maybe

Basically. She has no iconic music videos or performances or even an iconic image that's embedded in pop culture. It's not shade but that's just the reality of it. To say other wise is simply laughable.

[Cas]

Originally posted by i spit on haters

She had little to zero mainstream appeal until the label manufactured her. Even during the GGGB era everything was about her fashion (solely thanx to her stylist) and hairstyle rather than the music + performances. Her new image gave her commercial appeal which she clearly lacked during her first two "mix tapes" -- the general public didn't really take notice of her until GGGB. Prior to then, she was pretty unknown to the masses until 'Umbrella' made her a household name.

This may sound naive but I believe that Rihanna wanted to cut her hair and dye it black. IIRC there was an interview of her saying this. So to me, your claims don't have any real coverage.

[thewaitinggame]

Originally posted by MiguelPortugal

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You stan for Jennifer Lopez lol, I won't even bother entertaining the notion.

[Gabriel_Spears]

THIS

[i spit on haters]

Originally posted by Cas

This may sound naive but I believe that Rihanna wanted to cut her hair and dye it black. IIRC there was an interview of her saying this. So to me, your claims don't have any real coverage.

...No. I remember Ms. Fenty being on 106 & Park saying she cut her hair because she wanted to, she also claimed she just went ahead and cut her hair with out the label's permission which is a lie. First off, she was still a brand new "artist" -- she didn't just wake up and decided she wanted to cut her hair. Her hair was cut that way to model Fefe Dobson. Who to use to be on Def Jam.

Rihanna didn't hardly have that much freedom to cut her hair like that which drastically changed her image without the label's approval. It was never her idea to begin with in my opinion. The star tattoo on the back of her neck was even copied after Fefe.

[annashaus]

Umbrella.

[Cas]

Originally posted by i spit on haters

...No. I remember Ms. Fenty being on 106 & Park saying she cut her hair because she wanted to, she also claimed she just went ahead and cut her hair with out the label's permission which is a lie. First off, she was still a brand new "artist" -- she didn't just wake up and decided she wanted to cut her hair. Her hair was cut that way to model Fefe Dobson. Who to use to be on Def Jam.

Rihanna didn't hardly have that much freedom to cut her hair like that which drastically changed her image without the label's approval. It was never her idea to begin with in my opinion. The star tattoo on the back of her neck was even copied after Fefe.

Key words in bold.
I'm off.

[i spit on haters]

Originally posted by Cas

Key words in bold.
I'm off.

My posts still has merit. Bye. Can't say I'm surprised you're denying the obvious when it's blatantly obvious she's been "inspired" by Fefe and was modeled after her.

[manwhore]

maybe in a couple of years ill be able to answer this.

[QueenBLadyG]

Originally posted by MiMiLAMb!

Well she's the only female artist to have 11 number 1 singles & no number 1 album

DEATH

[KingSasha]

Originally posted by BRITNEY LICIOUS

i know we gonna have the same old discussion in 2050.:

!!!

l mean rihanna has 6 albums,she still not established enough (need remixes,discount,the help of other veterans britney/eminem/jay..).
Gaga,Beyonce,adele,Alicia,Xtina..well even Katy were established by their 2 nd or 3rd album.Who was rihanna by her second album?

Her status will be establish(if it even happens) by her label persuasion and musical ubiquity which is shameful.

Originally posted by ausread

I can see where you are cmoing from, but I think she may already have done iconic things, but its too early to judge HER as iconic yet

Great but 20 pages in,we have yet to find one we all agree about.Let alone 2 or 3 which make an artist a icon

Originally posted by MiMiLAMb!

Well she's the only female artist to have 11 number 1 singles & no number 1 album

[Vini]

Originally posted by BadBitch

Saying you love an artist doesn't imply this artist actually makes a difference on your body of work...

I didn't watch the video though... but still... Many rock stars have said they love artists like Madonna, Britney, Gaga, Beyonce, yet I don't think they influence their work... Would you think so?

[Jennifer]

She's not.

Having an iconic song (Umbrella) does not make you an iconic artist. There are hundreds of iconic songs by one hit wonders or random artists.

She has no memorable performances, no true stanbase, very few memorable videos, and an image that is so beyond forced.

I like Rihanna. Everyone likes Rihanna. Nobody loves her, though, and that is why she's always just as big as her latest hit. Nothing more, nothing less.

[rihannafan]

Originally posted by Kworb

Her whole career is pretty iconic. Her celebrity is not based on just a handful of moments or achievements.

This thread should've been closed after this post. I mean it sums up pretty much everything