[Medo]

Originally posted by Kali.

My boyfriend is Jewish so was my grandfather and you are absolutely appalling.

Appalling?

That's all you with your oppressive and ignorant posts, I was just using your own tactic.

You're the one who said people should stay in their own countries, you're the own who said Halal meat is one step closer to the Muslims taking over Europe, you indirectly suggested Muslims should go back to their 'own countries' and practice their culture there.

Then, you went on to say that the case with Kosher is the same as Halal. YOU are Appalling.

[Jameson Teqkilla]

Originally posted by Kali.

Do you really believe that every single time millions of cows are slaughtered they are gently laid on grass and quickly killed?
I can't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAQJ-FZo1cA

And how do you think non-halal meat is harvested, exactly?

Worst case scenario, halal is no more inhumane than secular meat harvesting. Stop

[Quietly Trek]

Originally posted by JimmyMinaj

No. The reason is because there's been Muslim people demanding a Halal only menu. Did you even read the article?

I'm not paying to read the article.

Even without reading the article, it's easy to understand that these changes will affect Muslim-majority areas only, because ham/pork sales are probably very low. A corporation's only goal is to maximize its profits while minimizing its costs. Again, it's not that hard to comprehend.

[Underdogs]

20+ pages over a sandwich. Halal >

[Kali.]

Perhaps you should be more sensitive to the plights of religious minorities then.

My boyfriend also thinks kosher meat is cruelty.

[Amira]

Originally posted by Embustera

No they don't, you're just a frustrated vegan. My fur jacket is ***flawless.

OMG! LOL I love you!

[Goosey]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

Halal is humane because the animals are shocked into unconsciousness before they are bled out, and none of the other animals witness the killing..

Lots of Islamic authorities consider stunned meat "non-halal".



And here's an undercover video of what goes on in a halal slaughterhouse. This is with stunning before! And it is in Belgium too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_bZzxep87c

Humane? Not by a long shot. It's like something that belongs in the SAW movies.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by Underdogs

20+ pages over a sandwich. Halal >

Forreal.

[Medo]

Originally posted by Kali.

Do you really believe that every single time millions of cows are slaughtered they are gently laid on grass and quickly killed?
I can't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAQJ-FZo1cA

Definitely not. I know it's more like this for big companies:

But that is definitely more humane than Non-Halal methods.

[Jimmy.]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

Okay, so Subway is responding to a demand from their consumers. They're changing 200 stores to Halal-only and leaving the other 1,000 as is. The vocal Muslims have shops that offer only Halal meats, and everyone else has 1,000 other shops to order pork and bacon. Sounds like everyone wins to me.

Yes, and now the people who live near those 200 stores won't be able to access bacon and ham, and will also have to eat halal meat regardless of their religion. If those people are being forced to eat Islamic meat, then that's unfair on people who are non-muslim.


Also, you do know there isn't 2/3 Subways per town, right? People can't just pop along the road to another Subway. It's not like that in every town. There isn't a Subway in my town, the town next to me, the town next to that one either.

[PromKing]

Originally posted by 91Winchester

I wonder how people would feel in the reverse: If white immigrants came in to Saudi Arabia or some other Muslim-controlled nation and started serving only ham.

I hate the mentality that only Muslims are suffering in this world.

You are showing the EXACT same mentality with your comments though....

Keep in mind that SUBWAY decided to have 200 restaurants switch to Halal, not the Muslims despite your assumptions.

[jomarr]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

They've already done that. They're changing 200 stores to halal-only, and leaving 1,000 with both meat choices available.

WHAT? Can we close this ****ing thread.

200/1200 and people are weeping about this? Dang. I thought I'd get a good point from members in this thread.

The VAST majority is still selling bacon so I don't get the rants of these members at all.

Roughly 17% of the stores are being changed to Halal Only leaving non Muslim people with the 83% for them.

I don't see why this is such a big deal for people.

That's like 1 Halal outlet to 6 non Halal outlets.

[Kali.]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

And how do you think non-halal meat is harvested, exactly?

Worst case scenario, halal is no more inhumane than secular meat harvesting. Stop

I never said secular meat harvesting was any better though. I am just saying that a lot of people protested against kosher and halal meat because they deem it inhumane. There is a reason for that and I don't think it's because of racism, antisemitism or islamophobia.

[Jameson Teqkilla]

Originally posted by JimmyMinaj

Yes, and now the people who live near those 200 stores won't be able to access bacon and ham, and will also have to eat halal meat regardless of their religion. If those people are being forced to eat Islamic meat, then that's unfair on people who are non-muslim.

All of the meat besides bacon/ham has been Halal in the U.K. for YEARS though

Non-Islamic people can and do eat Halal meat all the time.

[Medo]

Originally posted by Goosey

Lots of Islamic authorities consider stunned meat "non-halal".

And here's an undercover video of what goes on in a halal slaughterhouse. This is with stunning before! And it is in Belgium too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_bZzxep87c

Humane? Not by a long shot. It's like something that belongs in the SAW movies.

Did you see videos from Non-Halal slaughter houses, much worse.

Also, the slaughter house in Belgium is just misleading - Subway is a lot more certified and is held to a higher standard when it comes to quality. Also, you're the one who didn't even know what Halal was and now you're acting like you've written the research paper on the subject

[Jimmy.]

Originally posted by Quietly Trek

I'm not paying to read the article.

Even without reading the article, it's easy to understand that these changes will affect Muslim-majority areas only, because ham/pork sales are probably very low. A corporation's only goal is to maximize its profits while minimizing its costs. Again, it's not that hard to comprehend.

So you've not even read the article? LMAO BAI.

[jonasha]

Originally posted by JimmyMinaj

Ain't nothing you spilled was fresh tea to me.

You're not understanding my point. There shouldn't be a reason Subway feels like they have to stop selling bacon and ham in a non-Islamic country to cater to Muslims. Honestly, I've specified how I feel on this so many times, but you're just not getting it.

No, you're not understanding that the reason they want to do this is to make more money. Either the selling of bacon was not making them profits (or even making them losing money), or were turning away potential customers (mainly muslims).

They want profits. Simple as that. Not selling bacon is going to make them more money. I don't know how clearer this can be. MONEY>FEELINGS in Subway's mind.

[Goosey]

Originally posted by medosuxx

Also, you're the one who didn't even know what Halal was and now you're acting like you've written the research paper on the subject

I live in a country where they serve this halal stuff... I'm plenty qualified to speak on this issue.

[Quietly Trek]

Originally posted by JimmyMinaj

So you've not even read the article? LMAO BAI.

Thanks for adding absolutely nothing of value here.

[-brian]

Originally posted by JimmyMinaj

Yes, and now the people who live near those 200 stores won't be able to access bacon and ham, and will also have to eat halal meat regardless of their religion. If those people are being forced to eat Islamic meat, then that's unfair on people who are non-muslim.

Won't be able access bacon and ham? Is Subway the sole provider of bacon and ham in the UK? And who's being forced to eat there? What