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Discussion: Beyonce: same level as Madonna, Mariah, Whitney, Janet?
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Beyoncé deserves all of this success. She works hard and puts everything in her craft. She is from an era where they actually cared. Beyoncé will be bigger then madonna tho why can't her stand just face it ? Literally everything madonna did this decade was for attention and the last decade & in Beyoncé case she dropped formation and got more attention Madge has gotten in YEARS for her music . Not showing a nipple or saying the " N " word but for her music that speaks volumes for it self
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Originally posted by Suga&Grits
Beyoncé deserves all of this success. She works hard and puts everything in her craft. She is from an era where they actually cared. Beyoncé will be bigger then madonna tho why can't her stand just face it ? Literally everything madonna did this decade was for attention and the last decade & in Beyoncé case she dropped formation and got more attention Madge has gotten in YEARS for her music . Not showing a nipple or saying the " N " word but for her music that speaks volumes for it self
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I mean, they feel so threatened, it's obvious  B is the only one who can surpass Madonna at this point, the rest are either dead or their careers are out of the spotlight. And at the rate B's career is going, she most definitely will.
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Originally posted by Suga&Grits
Beyoncé deserves all of this success. She works hard and puts everything in her craft. She is from an era where they actually cared. Beyoncé will be bigger then madonna tho why can't her stand just face it ? Literally everything madonna did this decade was for attention and the last decade & in Beyoncé case she dropped formation and got more attention Madge has gotten in YEARS for her music . Not showing a nipple or saying the " N " word but for her music that speaks volumes for it self
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But the real question is, does she have the same level of impact these 5 women have? She maybe on the same level or getting there but still far from surpassing them.
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Beyonce's death news cycle is gonna be so annoying i swear
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Originally posted by Dragonfury
But the real question is, does she have the same level of impact these 5 women have? She maybe on the same level or getting there but still far from surpassing them.
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Love them all but the difference is Beyoncé is staying in her own lane in this generation of music & isn't trying be like everyone else ... Which what Janet and Mariah did all of the 00"s when people think of those two it's surly not they recent work of the past ten years
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Lmao delete this embarrasing thread
above Janet Jackson is debatable, but she's not close to the women mentioned, especially not Mariah and Madonna
Bey stans are so delusional 
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Originally posted by FutureHive
Beyonce's death news cycle is gonna be so annoying i swear
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Sorry to disappoint boo...but
She's going to outlive us all. A Marie Laveau tea.
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The black Madonna.
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Originally posted by DanceAgain
Beyonce is not the only popgirl that has claim,impact and Influence
She's a main fixture in the current pop climate but like I said outside the US she's is not as huge as the American fans might believe and this is far from shade but it's the truth
She's GLOBALLY successful but she's on par with more then a handful of pop girls that came out around the same time.
The US media hype her like crazy and the fans get caught up in it she's a Big Star and even a pioneer but she's not as important as people think she is. She's the best as what she does for sure and inspires many people but aside from her digital releases nothing she has done is groundbreaking
Will she be become a legend in the future? Time will tell that title you don't just get that label because you collect Grammies and have a 90+ score on metacritic it's something you earn that title with futer generations way after your Peak.
Her music is not game changing or important and neither are any of her albums does she have a ray of light? A thriller? A simply the best? A music box? A baby one more time? Nope
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Beyoncé is the most acclaimed pop girl right now though this isn't even a debate, not only are her 2 last albums her most acclaimed work to date with Lemonade being one of the most acclaimed albums of all time, she's also the most acclaimed performer since MJ.
Her Self-titled 5th album is literally the reason every artist is releasing their albums on Fridays.
Also your claiming you become a legend after your peak so basically when you begin to decline? Why? Why should your decline be the deciding factor if your a legend or not? Is that the reason you like to "claim" Jlo as a legend but not Beyoncé because Bey is yet to decline where-as Jlo has?
I swear you contradict yourself because I am 100% certain in a previous thread you said JLo became a legend 3 years into her music career when she had a #1 album and movie in the same week, how when that isn't way after her peak 
Beyoncé is a legend, she has been in the music industry for 20 years now and is still going strong. She has the sales, acclaim, awards, impact, influence, touring, iconic hits, iconic albums, she has it all, this is just something you need to accept.
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Originally posted by Same Ol' Mistakes
The black Madonna.
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No she's Beyonce
Her name holds its own weight
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Originally posted by AxelFox
I mean, they feel so threatened, it's obvious B is the only one who can surpass Madonna at this point, the rest are either dead or their careers are out of the spotlight. And at the rate B's career is going, she most definitely will. |
will what? surpass madonna? 
not in sales, acclaim or impact that's for sure. baby girl's been in the industry for almost 20y now and she has little to zero impact when it comes to music.
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Originally posted by QueenB4
Beyoncé is the most acclaimed pop girl right now though this isn't even a debate, not only are her 2 last albums her most acclaimed work to date with Lemonade being one of the most acclaimed albums of all time, she's also the most acclaimed performer since MJ.
Her Self-titled 5th album is literally the reason every artist is releasing their albums on Fridays.
Also your claiming you become a legend after your peak so basically when you begin to decline? Why? Why should your decline be the deciding factor if your a legend or not?
I swear you contradict yourself because I am 100% certain in a previous thread you said JLo became a legend 3 years into her music career when she had a #1 album and movie in the same week, how when that isn't way after her peak
Beyoncé is a legend, she has been in the music industry for 20 years now and is still going strong. She has the sales, acclaim, awards, impact, influence, touring, iconic hits, iconic albums, she has it all, this is just something you need to accept. |
Why you so obsessed with me and legendary JLo I knew b4 I read your novel you would swing JLos name in here
No need to be so angry Beyonce isnt getting shaded and she's not a legend either sorry lovely and she's not the most acclaimed either she gets praised because she's fantastic at what she does
And I'm pretty sure madonnas the most acclaimed performer that's ever existed aside MJ,Janet and James brown
Beyonces a Icon for sure even a pioneer for the modern entertainer
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Originally posted by DanceAgain
Why you so obsessed with me and legendary JLo I knew b4 I read your novel you would swing JLos name in here
No need to be so angry Beyonce isnt getting shaded and she's not a legend either sorry lovely
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Because you contradicted yourself in your reasoning on deciding if someone is a legend or not.
Knew your wouldn't respond directly to my question, because you know full well im right in what I said.
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Originally posted by DanceAgain
Why you so obsessed with me and legendary JLo I knew b4 I read your novel you would swing JLos name in here
No need to be so angry Beyonce isnt getting shaded and she's not a legend either sorry lovely and she's not the most acclaimed either she gets praised because she's fantastic at what she does
And I'm pretty sure madonnas the most acclaimed performer that's ever existed aside MJ,Janet.
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JLO a legend LMAO
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Originally posted by AvrilLaQueen
Lmao delete this embarrasing thread
above Janet Jackson is debatable, but she's not close to the women mentioned, especially not Mariah and Madonna
Bey stans are so delusional |
How is Avril doing ?
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Originally posted by DanceAgain
Why you so obsessed with me and legendary JLo I knew b4 I read your novel you would swing JLos name in here
No need to be so angry Beyonce isnt getting shaded and she's not a legend either sorry lovely and she's not the most acclaimed either she gets praised because she's fantastic at what she does
And I'm pretty sure madonnas the most acclaimed performer that's ever existed aside MJ,Janet and James brown
Beyonces a Icon for sure even a pioneer for the modern entertainer
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No
Jackie Wilson
Sammy Davis Jr.
Tina Turner
Prince
Freddie Mercury
Elvis
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Originally posted by QueenB4
Because you contradicted yourself in your reasoning on deciding if someone is a legend or not.
Knew your wouldn't respond directly to my question, because you know full well im right in what I said.
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JLo is in the same boat as Beyonce there Both iconic stars and both will be remembered but will there craft.... not sure will there impact definitely
Anyways this ain't bout JLo
There's no reason Beyonce won't be a legend but now she's not
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Originally posted by Suga&Grits
Beyoncé deserves all of this success.
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So does Madonna.
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Originally posted by Suga&Grits
She works hard and puts everything in her craft.
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So did Madonna.
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Originally posted by Suga&Grits
She is from an era where they actually cared.
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So Mariah, Celine, Whitney, Janet, and Madonna had eras in which they didn't care about their music?
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Originally posted by Suga&Grits
Beyoncé will be bigger then madonna tho why can't her stand just face it ?
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Beyoncé will NEVER be bigger than Madonna. Not on this planet, not in this lifetime, not even when the world ends.
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Originally posted by Suga&Grits
Literally everything madonna did this decade was for attention and the last decade & in Beyoncé case she dropped formation and got more attention Madge has gotten in YEARS for her music.
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So Beyoncé never did things this decade that got her attention for things other than her music?
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Originally posted by Suga&Grits
Not showing a nipple or saying the " N " word but for her music that speaks volumes for it self
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Right because being accused of faking her pregnancy and lip syncing the national anthem gives attention to her music right?
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Originally posted by AxelFox
I mean, they feel so threatened, it's obvious
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No one is feeling threatened especially by Beyoncé of all people.
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Originally posted by AxelFox
B is the only one who can surpass Madonna at this point, the rest are either dead or their careers are out of the spotlight. And at the rate B's career is going, she most definitely will.
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As I mentioned before, Beyoncé will NEVER surpass Madonna. She will never surpass her in record sales, hit singles, impact, influence, and other things.
You are just going to have to deal with that.
Not to mention, none of us were born when Madonna was in her prime. Until we experienced it first hand, maybe we can have this discussion..
Case closed.
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Originally posted by C.Damen
So does Madonna.
So did Madonna.
So Mariah, Celine, Whitney, Janet, and Madonna had eras in which they didn't care about their music?
Beyoncé will NEVER be bigger than Madonna. Not on this planet, not in this lifetime, not even when the world ends.
So Beyoncé never did things this decade that got her attention for things other than her music?
Right because being accused of faking her pregnancy and lip syncing the national anthem gives attention to her music right?
No one is feeling threatened especially by Beyoncé of all people.
As I mentioned before, Beyoncé will NEVER surpass Madonna. She will never surpass her in record sales, hit singles, impact, influence, and other things.
You are just going to have to deal with that.
Not to mention, none of us were born when Madonna was in her prime. Until we experienced it first hand, maybe we can have this discussion..
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