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Poll: Women and Children first
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View Poll Results: Agree or disagree?
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Yes, Women and Children first
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Children yes, Women no
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look out for yourself!
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Originally posted by J a y
It's called a notion for a reason.
Let's say it takes roughly three minutes. That's 1 baby every 9 months (favoring men) or 131,400 babies (favoring women).
It's a survival mechanism, and let's not bother with the "overpopulation" topic here, that's a conspiracy.
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As long as so many people are unemployed around the world, it is overpopulated
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#equality #feminism #fightforyourrights
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Children should go first simple because they've had less life experience. If this were a situation where time is crucial and people need to evacuate a place, children should definitely be first. After that, whoever the **** is quickest should go along so the most people can make it. Saying women should go first is misogynistic to be honest.
The "rule" isn't "Women and children" first because they're more important, but because they're perceived weaker and in need of men to protect them.
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Children yes, women no. I would save myself first, sorry.
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Quote:
Originally posted by J a y
It's called a notion for a reason.
Let's say it takes roughly three minutes. That's 1 baby every 9 months (favoring men) or 131,400 babies (favoring women).
It's a survival mechanism, and let's not bother with the "overpopulation" topic here, that's a conspiracy.
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These numbers are very inaccurate though. I see what you're trying to say but it's just not realistic. Populating isn't even an issue, anyway. Even if we aren't overpopulated, we are FAR from underpopulated.
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Y'all saying children yes but women no are aware that could potentially leave children parent less/motherless right? I'm pretty sure one of the reasons they decided it to be this way was so that the kids would have a parent to watch over them and take care of them. Can you imagine letting children go first and seperating them from their mothers 
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Originally posted by T.C
Regardless if we are "overpopulated" or not, there are billions of us on this planet. And I could flip that logic and say it's beneficial to save the men to prevent such overpopulation to occur, right?
We are humans, we should be above thinking about stuff that isn't really an issue at this stage of time...I like to think my life should be valued as much as a woman's.
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You're watching Titanic. There were not enough boats to save the 2,208 people on board. In a matter of life and death, life always outweighs death. I would happily sacrifice my life, as a man, knowing a woman could survive and later bare children.
You open a topic of discussion, are given the scientific answer, and want to argue about it. This isn't social psychology. 
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Originally posted by Guernica
Y'all saying children yes but women no are aware that could potentially leave children parent less/motherless right? I'm pretty sure one of the reasons they decided it to be this way was so that the kids would have a parent to watch over them and take care of them. Can you imagine letting children go first and seperating them from their mothers |
I've got news for you
Children have two parents. And not all Children prefer their Mums.
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Interested to hear what feminist women have to say about this.
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Originally posted by WFL
Women and children first, yes. Children need their mothers with them in situations like those.  |
What if a child has 2 fathers?
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Bitch I don't care about your age or gender, I'm GETTING ON THAT BOAT. 
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Originally posted by Guernica
Y'all saying children yes but women no are aware that could potentially leave children parent less/motherless right? I'm pretty sure one of the reasons they decided it to be this way was so that the kids would have a parent to watch over them and take care of them. Can you imagine letting children go first and seperating them from their mothers |
Where is the logic here 
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Originally posted by Corsola
These numbers are very inaccurate though. I see what you're trying to say but it's just not realistic. Populating isn't even an issue, anyway. Even if we aren't overpopulated, we are FAR from underpopulated.
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Inaccurate, how? There are no factual numbers for anything I have just said, only approximations, which I provided.
It's like you want to have a debate over nothing. Inaccurate.. um, well duh. Not about to time everyone having sex.
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Originally posted by T.C
I've got news for you
Children have two parents. And not all Children prefer their Mums.
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So you're saying men and children first? You can't say children only and it's a free for all between the men and women, some kids would inevitably lose both parents that way. There needs to be a way to make sure the kids aren't left alone. Either say women and children first, or nobody first. Don't say only children first though
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Originally posted by J a y
You're watching Titanic. There were not enough boats to save the 2,208 people on board. In a matter of life and death, life always outweighs death. I would happily sacrifice my life, as a man, knowing a woman could survive and later bare children.
You open a topic of discussion, are given the scientific answer, and want to argue about it. This isn't social psychology. |
Pretty sure social psychology was the reason used back then though. I doubt the crew were thinking "scientifically" when they approved that notion. Women were considered weaker and unequal to men back then, and that was probably the main reason behind it.
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Originally posted by J a y
You're watching Titanic. There were not enough boats to save the 2,208 people on board. In a matter of life and death, life always outweighs death. I would happily sacrifice my life, as a man, knowing a woman could survive and later bare children.
You open a topic of discussion, are given the scientific answer, and want to argue about it. This isn't social psychology. |
It's cool that you would sacrifice yourself but not everyone thinks like that. Your answer isn't scientific, though, as it is very variable dependent. Not that there is a scientific answer to an opinion, anyway.
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Not everything is about equality, especially in the matter of reproduction, life and the survival of mankind.
Not about to lose my ****ing mind and debate men and women's rights over such a simple notion. This isn't Tumblr.
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Originally posted by J a y
Inaccurate, how? There are no factual numbers for anything I have just said, only approximations, which I provided.
It's like you want to have a debate over nothing. Inaccurate.. um, well duh. Not about to time everyone having sex.
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I honestly wasn't even talking about the time of having sex. I just meant your women:men ratio.
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Originally posted by Guernica
So you're saying men and children first? You can't say children only and it's a free for all between the men and women, some kids would inevitably lose both parents that way. There needs to be a way to make sure the kids aren't left alone. Either say women and children first, or nobody first. Don't say only children first though
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I'm saying women and men are equal and each case should vary.
And that above poster is right, what if the child has two dads? Then that child will be left with no parents, right?
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