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Discussion: Share Your Racist Experiences
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Originally posted by Latch
No one said anything about one being worse than the other.
I said one is not racist because it is not discrimination based on race.
How on earth does that equate to either one being better or worse?
Goodness, it's like you want the Irish to be victims of racism just so you can come in here and boast receipts as if this is some sort of contest for us
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But everyone is this thread has said that racism is based on whether it's institutionalized. Or would not hiring someone because they're white be racism? Which is it?
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Originally posted by Callisto.
Well I don't know I feel like discrimination against a whole group because of how they look vs Discrimination against a small portion of people based on where their from is a little worse.
I mean I really can't see how someone who looks like Niall Horan has it worse than someone who looks like Zayn Malik in Britain.
Not to mention the Irish were given power over the slaves in order to promote the myth of white superiority and cause tensions between the two. |
Irish people do have a distinctive look to them. A lot of discrimination against them in the 18th and 19th centuries was by how they looked.
I've many negative comments about Niall based on him being Irish (and I don't follow 1D, so it's rare for me to see anything related to them). Zayn's gotten as much **** as Bono has based on their heritage.
And, no, they were not given power over the slaves. They were seen as equals or, sometimes, even below the slaves.
They were often compared with the slaves and were even called “******s turned inside out” while the slaves were referred to as “smoked Irish.” An English traveller noted that both Irish and African Americans “were viewed as outcasts.” To be called an Irishman, noted the visitor, “is almost as great an insult as to be stigmatized as a ****** feller.” Some jobs were even thought to be too dangerous for the slave population whereas no job was too risky for the Irish. They were preferred to the slaves when it came to working on the docks because, as one official put it, “The ******s are worth too much to be risked here; if the Paddies are knocked overboard, or get their backs broke, nobody loses anything.”
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Originally posted by TeamSelenaMarie
I'm white, and I have never faced racism and never will (although I will face sexism). The system is in my favor, and there's nothing I can do about it. Things are getting better and all (I never thought I'd live to see the day where a black president was elected) but it'll be a while. I have first hand seen how racist white people can be (my parents, friends, etc.) and it's not purposely done, it's just that people have yet to learn to see humans and not skin color. I've been judged (by blacks AND whites) for being friends with blacks, it's just a mess. Society is unfair.
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
What I am is irrelevant, and if you haven't noticed, I have not given any personal examples of racism in this thread. And you don't know me, I've never even posted a picture on here, on what are you even basing your rant? |
It is very relevant. While you yourself may not be contributing to this thread, I know many light-skinned hispanics fighting for "the cause" when they ironically benefit from the same thing they are so spiteful about and refuse to admit it. I don't need to see your picture, it's obvious you're upper-class from your posts here and as you said, there is a VERY disproportionate amount of white latinos in the upper class than native american/black hispanics. This social justice crap being spewed here has become (almost) as much of a close-minded, hateful crusade as what is being fought against.
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Originally posted by JonnyϟLightning
I dont identify as hispanic because many hispanics are actually of BLACK ancestry, but they act as if they're above blacks by saying theyre hispanic (because anything is better than being black in their minds). I've dealt with this first hand.
Also, I'm an Africana Studies minor. Dont try me.  |
Oh no, you've taken like 3 classes on the subject, i'm shaking in my boots. Horizontal oppression is sad indeed, however. I'm not getting why you don't identify as hispanic though. I guess you don't really have to explain yourself.
edit - and lawls at you starting the oppression olympics up there.
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Originally posted by JonnyϟLightning
I get what you're trying to say, but this may come across as you comparing discrimination against gays to the black struggle. Which in many ways is a valid comparison (or one day will be by the way things are looking in Uganda and Russia), but it's not there just yet. Plus homosexuality is something which you can hide, your skin isn't.
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I'm not getting into the race vs sexuality debate, but regardless of whether or not you're able to hide it, people don't care. If they THINK you're gay, you're gay.
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Originally posted by Blatboy
I want to make it very clear that I am in no way, shape, or form trying to compare white discrimination to other races being discriminated. All I'm saying is that logically, discrimination for someone being any race, is racism. White people aren't institutionally oppressed, but an act of discrimination, which you all admit is possible, is racism in my book. That's just the word
EDIT: Not to mention I find it hard to admit any type of privilege I may hold, considering the fact that my own race discriminates against me every single day for being gay.
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That is a completely different conversation, but it's no secret that there are things people will automatically assume about you based on skin color alone
When we say you have "privilege," we don't mean that you all live in big, three-story mansions in the Hamptons and never have to have problems at all.
The "privilege" manifests itself in different ways for different people.
If you are a homosexual, White male, then you can benefit from White privilege while still experiencing discrimination for your sexual orientation.
Hell, if we scale it down and only examine the gay population then that's yet another example of Whites being at the top of the social food chain.
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Originally posted by Blatboy
You criticize my mental capacity, but don't provide reasons why I'm wrong, while I'm arguing my side with actual statements.
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What statements? Where? "I'm not ignorant, I'm educated." Your wrong opinion is a statement?
You ignore everyone's points. You dismissed everything GreasyBruce said with a snide remark as well as what Shenzi said with some asinine "O my goshhh i kno like 2 black people in real life who don't mind and they totally represent an entire race, so why should i care about your opinion? I get made fun of on tumblr, you don't understand true racism </3" BS. Like...
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Originally posted by Kamil24
They have though.
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Why are you ignoring when I asked you where someone said only black people experience racism? You know you're wrong so 
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This thread has took a turn for the worst and it clearly wasn't' the OPs intention.
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
But everyone is this thread has said that racism is based on whether it's institutionalized. Or would not hiring someone because they're white be racism? Which is it?
Irish people do have a distinctive look to them. A lot of discrimination against them in the 18th and 19th centuries was by how they looked.
I've many negative comments about Niall based on him being Irish (and I don't follow 1D, so it's rare for me to see anything related to them). Zayn's gotten as much **** as Bono has based on their heritage.
And, no, they were not given power over the slaves. They were seen as equals or, sometimes, even below the slaves.
They were often compared with the slaves and were even called “******s turned inside out” while the slaves were referred to as “smoked Irish.” An English traveller noted that both Irish and African Americans “were viewed as outcasts.” To be called an Irishman, noted the visitor, “is almost as great an insult as to be stigmatized as a ****** feller.” Some jobs were even thought to be too dangerous for the slave population whereas no job was too risky for the Irish. They were preferred to the slaves when it came to working on the docks because, as one official put it, “The ******s are worth too much to be risked here; if the Paddies are knocked overboard, or get their backs broke, nobody loses anything.”
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They did infact get power over the slaves. I'm not saying this to make their plight seem easier. It was done to make sure that they didn't band together and revolt against their masters. They did the same thing with the Native Americans. That's why some Natives owned slaves.
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The Irish did often have one advantage over African slaves - most of the time their time in slavery was limited. They were often sold into slavery from 7 to 20 years, while the only way Africans could get out of slavery was to buy their freedom.
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But this is going into oppression Olympics territory and that's not my style. The Irish experience was/is based on prejudice not racism.
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Member Since: 5/14/2007
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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
THEY DO.
That nasty way of thinking that labels me as an uneducated thug and criminal because of how I look and am dressed puts my life at risk on the daily.
Their idiotic beauty standards have crushed our self-esteem for centuries.
This White government and society continues to feed our young men into the prison system.
When opportunities and basic human rights are denied to US, they are redirected to YOU.
YOU participate in it more than you think and YOU benefit from it. Until YOU change your thinking, YOU are guilty.
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How am I guilty? What did I DO as a white male PERSONALLY to keep them down?
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Ok the irish experienced a few years of oppression, but THAT STOPPED. they dont continue to face oppression because they were assimilated into what is "white." BLACKS continue to face oppression!
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Originally posted by .:Allen:.
How am I guilty? What did I DO as a white male PERSONALLY to keep them down?
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First of all, you continue to negate our experiences in a condescending manner.
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
But everyone is this thread has said that racism is based on whether it's institutionalized. Or would not hiring someone because they're white be racism? Which is it?
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If someone outright said that, then they are wrong and don't have a clear understanding of racism.
Racism is based on discrimination against another human being due to their race/ethnic make-up. It's not that black & white, but on the surface that's what it is.
White people most definitely can experience racism from other races, but what people are arguing here is that they don't experience the negative effects of institutionalized racism.
If a White person applies for a job and a person of color rejects them solely based on the color of their skin then it is racist, but what you don't seem to be able to grasp is that White people discriminating against other White people is not a form of racism.
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Member Since: 5/28/2010
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Originally posted by .:Allen:.
How am I guilty? What did I DO as a white male PERSONALLY to keep them down?
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If you are ignorant, then you are a part of the problem.
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Originally posted by JonnyϟLightning
Ok the irish experienced a few years of oppression, but THAT STOPPED. they dont continue to face oppression because they were assimilated into what is "white." BLACKS continue to face oppression!
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You're coming off as a hypocrite now. PREACHING your side, yet when one person says they had it bad as well, you act like its not a big deal.
How do you know if Irish don't face oppression, be that as it may not be as bad as some African Americans.
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Zayn's gotten as much **** as Bono has based on their heritage.
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 If you actually believe this...
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Originally posted by JonnyϟLightning
Ok the irish experienced a few years of oppression, but THAT STOPPED. they dont continue to face oppression because they were assimilated into what is "white." BLACKS continue to face oppression!
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"a few years" jfc
They DO continue to face oppression, especially in the UK, where there are still parades against them, they are profiled, their culture is still appropriated worldwide, they are whitewashed out of movies, Irish celebrities get plenty of **** just for speaking out, still stereotyped as drunkards, they are still murdered in the UK for being Irish, the British still hold their lands from them, etc. Last week an Irish friend of mine got called a "green ******" and nobody did anything about it. Just because they're not slaves anymore doesn't make them not oppressed.
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Originally posted by SneakerNerd
This thread has took a turn for the worst and it clearly wasn't' the OPs intention.
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The OPs intention was to troll us
I don't see any sincerity in him making this thread when literally a few minutes prior he was in the Blogs section calling Blacks "too sensitive" for talking about our own racist experiences
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Originally posted by Newt
It is very relevant. While you yourself may not be contributing to this thread, I know many light-skinned hispanics fighting for "the cause" when they ironically benefit from the same thing they are so spiteful about and refuse to admit it. I don't need to see your picture, it's obvious you're upper-class from your posts here and as you said, there is a VERY disproportionate amount of white latinos in the upper class than native american/black hispanics. This social justice crap being spewed here has become (almost) as much of a close-minded, hateful crusade as what is being fought against.
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Excuse me? What about my posts tells you who or what I am? Have you been stalking every post I make? I don't notice any difference in the type of post me and many others are making in here yet you choose to specifically target me.
And I will be the first to admit that in Latin America light-skinned people are given advantages, in fact I made a post about it a few pages ago where I talked about how people of European descent are economically advantaged over descendants of the Native population. You're trying to call me out on something I already addressed.
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
If you actually believe this... |
I had to google because I was confused.
I didn't even know he was Irish..
Zayn gets called a terrorist on the daily. 
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
When my family was trying to adopt a cat, the adoption lady had the nerve to ask us if we were going to eat it (I'm Chinese). |
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