[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by BabyCantYouSee

Ticket sales also used to be WAY cheaper.

Okay, and at what point was Britney selling out stadiums with those cheaper tickets?

[BabyCantYouSee]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

Okay, and at what point was Britney selling out stadiums with those cheaper tickets?

Britney has yet to do a full blown 100 date+ true worldwide tour. Her boxscores always do better in regions that don't get to see her much. Britney was performing in stadiums in Asia and South America during the DWAD tour.

[Monroe]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

Okay, and at what point was Britney selling out stadiums with those cheaper tickets?

Britney was doing big shows as early as 2000/2001. She did Rock in Rio three different times for all of her big tours. Internationally she has always been a big touring artist. Oops!... was her first arena tour but she performed for much larger crowds then that during her multiple tours, especially in other countries like South America and in Europe where she performed in bigger spaces than in the US. She was a huge touring act in those countries during that time period when she toured from 00-04 three separate times, which is why she was able to do a stadium tour with Circus in 2009 that sold so well there even though she hadn't visited them in 5 years.

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by Monroe

Britney was doing big shows as early as 2001. She did Rock in Rio three different times and internationally she was huge. Oop!... was her first arena tour but she performed for much bigger crowds then just that during her multiple tours, especially in other countries like South America and in other places in Europe. She was a huge touring act in those countries during that time period when she toured 00-04, which is why she was able to do a stadium tour with Circus in 2009.

So 10 years into her career, got it.

[Monroe]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

So 10 years into her career, got it.

If you want to completely ignore the fact that she was performing for upwards of 100,000+ people several times before 2009 then fine. But be aware that it's not accurate information.

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by Monroe

If you want to completely ignore the fact that she was performing for upwards of 100,000+ people several times before 2009 then fine. But be aware that it's not accurate information.

And if you want to ignore the distinction between rock festivals with multiple acts and exclusive single-artist tours (which the tour receipt keepers always make) then you are free to do so as well.

[MrPeanut]

Let the Katy/Rihanna stans use Rock in Rio receipts and let's see what happens.

[Monroe]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

And if you want to ignore the distinction between rock festivals with multiple acts and exclusive single-artist tours (which the tour receipt keepers always make) then you are free to do so as well.

So I guess you are ignoring the fact that as early as 2001 Britney was performing in Coliseums, Domes and venues that seated upwards of 40-60k people with her Dream Within A Dream Tour?

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by Monroe

So I guess you are ignoring the fact that as early as 2001 Britney was performing in Coliseums, Domes and venues that seated upwards of 40-60k people with her Dream Within A Dream Tour?

Well I asked "when?" in earnest and you didn't say stadium until 2009.

And names like "Coliseum" and "Dome" can certainly be decieving...

Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum - 15,904 / 15,904 (100%) $816,871
Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum - 14,784 / 14,784 (100%) $853,326
Pacific Coliseum - 12,764 / 16,133 (79%) $727,371
Charlotte Coliseum - 11,135 / 11,135 (100%) $597,854

Tacoma Dome - 21,404 / 21,612 (99%) $1,127,266
Alamodome - 15,769 / 17,111 (92%) $806,616

There are the two Foro Sol dates but I guess the second one is the one she bailed out on due to rain.

[LDYGG]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

Let the Katy/Rihanna stans use Rock in Rio receipts and let's see what happens.

Let them forget that Gaga will be playing that same venue ALONE in a few months.

[Monroe]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

Well I asked "when?" in earnest and you didn't say stadium until 2009.

You're my favorite monster. We would be friends if we didn't have different faves. But I'm still coming for her, though.

Tacoma Dome - 21,404 / 21,612 (99%) $1,127,266
Alamodome - 15,769 / 17,111 (92%) $806,616

Gaga's BTWB dates are averaging 16k people a night, which is in line with what most of Britney's dates were then. I am not seeing much of a difference and she did perform in stadiums and she had multiple dates with over 20k, 30k and 50k people so...

There are the two Foro Sol dates but I guess the second one is the one she bailed out on due to rain.

50k+ people went though and she had multiple shows with 20k+ and 30k+ people.

[Jennifer]

Lol I never understood why people on here (and know that it's only on ATRL where this trinity mess is ever referenced) group Gaga with the other 2. They have 10+ years on her, it's just not comparable.

It's Britney, Christina, and Beyonce from our/my generation.

Gaga, Rihanna, and Katy from the current one. Gaga is the biggest of these girls but it doesn't make much sense to group this newcomer with the seasoned gerls.

[LDYGG]

Originally posted by Jennifer

Lol I never understood why people on here (and know that it's only on ATRL where this trinity mess is ever referenced) group Gaga with the other 2. They have 10+ years on her, it's just not comparable.

It's Britney, Christina, and Beyonce from our/my generation.

Gaga, Rihanna, and Katy from the current one. Gaga is the biggest of these girls but it doesn't make much sense to group this newcomer with the seasoned gerls.

They group her with them because Gaga has accomplished more than Katy and Rihanna and it's simply unfair to group them in with those girls.

Xtina was always overshadowed by Britney and then even by Gaga, so by default Gaga is in the trinity with Brit and Bey.

Nearly 20 pages dedicated to someone who doesn't deserve to be in the trinity.

[Jennifer]

Oh and there's the three Pop/Rock girls who nobody will ever care for:

Avril Kelly and Pink

[MrPeanut]

I am down with whatever scenario recognizes Gaga as supreme. All hail Jennifer.

[Jennifer]

Originally posted by LDYGG

They group her with them because Gaga has accomplished more than Katy and Rihanna and it's simply unfair to group them in with those girls.

Xtina was always overshadowed by Britney and then even by Gaga, so by default Gaga is in the trinity with Brit and Bey.

Nearly 20 pages dedicated to someone who doesn't deserve to be in the trinity.

I don't disagree that Gaga is a bigger star and has made a bigger impact than Rihanna and Katy but after the past 2 years, they aren't that far apart....at all. Katy and Rihanna have FAR more hits (and more memorable ones, too), and the album sales are similar now (TD/Loud/BTW).

That's like saying Britney should automatically be grouped with Madonna and Whitney bc her initial album sales were so massive and huge.

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by Monroe

You're my favorite monster. We would be friends if we didn't have different faves. But I'm still coming for her, though.

Oh I know. I appreciate your earnest devotion to BritBrit (and I like her a lot more than my stanning on here would suggest). I just have to keep you honest, that's all.

Gaga's BTWB dates are averaging 16k people a night, which is in line with what most of Britney's dates were then. I am not seeing much of a difference and she did perform in stadiums and she had multiple dates with over 20k, 30k and 50k people so...

Gaga's average is lower at the moment cuz the Australian dates (the only populated continent wherein she won't have a stadium date) comprise half of her total so far. Her average will go way up once Europe/Africa/Americas are included.

50k+ people went though and she had multiple shows with 20k+ and 30k+ people.

Good for ha, I've never said she was a touring slouch, but she's just no Gaga when it comes to touring. Then again, who can be outside of nostalgia acts.

[JessieJHeartbeat]

None of them belong...

It should be Rihanna, Katy Perry, Jessie J

[coolcristobal]

Originally posted by JessieJHeartbeat

None of them belong...

It should be Rihanna, Katy Perry, Jessie J

k.

[T.C]

Originally posted by LDYGG

They group her with them because Gaga has accomplished more than Katy and Rihanna and it's simply unfair to group them in with those girls.

Xtina was always overshadowed by Britney and then even by Gaga, so by default Gaga is in the trinity with Brit and Bey.

Nearly 20 pages dedicated to someone who doesn't deserve to be in the trinity.

But you could say the same about Britney accomplishing more then Beyonce and Christina (commercially at least) all you people are doing is proving that Gaga is the leader of her trinity. It doesn't mean she should just be grouped with Britney and Bey just because shes big.