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Discussion: Are some artists below others and is it fair?
Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by HumanitySector
She is a better singer. I love Katy and some of her work, like you saw, I made that E.T. appreciation thread, but Rihanna is seriously a better singler. She also dances better, not much, but still does. Katy is a good songwriter, and plays a guitar, I'll give her that. But overall, I still think they are around on the same level, but overall, I think Rihanna is better singer/entertainer than Katy.
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Rihanna's vocals are pretty much the equilivant to Katy's.
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Member Since: 4/25/2011
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Anyone putting Britney at the bottom 
Her impact during her first 5 years in pop music was undeniably the best we had since Madonna. Not even Lady Gaga could top that. Her public breakdown, if not the most followed was one of the most followed celebrity stories of the last decade. Everbody knows who Britney and from people I know, she's always on top of other pop artists even Beyonce and Gaga. She's maybe not as amazing as her prime but EVERYBODY puts her above Gaga and Beyonce. She tops Beyonce easily, as for Gaga.. she may be the it girl right now but Britney will always be up there as the best female artist of the last decade. Most of her fans are now in their early 20s and they are still die hard fans till now.
Madonna, Michael
Britney
Beyonce, Gaga
Rihanna, Katy
Kesha, Nicki
The rest.
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
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Originally posted by lpd446
But Rihanna had more recent success and hasn't had EVERY single on her album flop  ooop... |
Too bad the general public doesn't give a **** about your singles perform on Billboard. Enjoy your WP. ooop...
Rihanna is only pitted against Beyoncé because
A. She's a black singer
B. She's affiliated with Jay-Z
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by ♔Drais Ivy Carter
Yes, talent wise and musically the other 4 girls are below the other 3 girls regardless of how well the other 4 girls are charting. The general public isn't perched on iTunes Billboard or Mediatraffic checking stats every 10 minutes like crazy stans do online. They want entertainment.
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But the general public are the ones buying the songs off Itunes, listening to them on the radio, and voting for them at award shows.
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Member Since: 12/21/2011
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
Rihanna's vocals are pretty much the equilivant to Katy's.
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Nope, not even close. Rihanna has a nicer tone, much better control over her voice, and she can do really good belts from upper chest register while Katy can't. Rihanna can even do powerhouse belts when she tries. Their range is about the same, Rihanna's slightly better. Katy has flawless falsetto tone, when she does it right tho.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by SaDaré
But... how is Ke$ha talented anyway?
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songwriting is a talent...
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Member Since: 4/13/2011
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
Rihanna's vocals are pretty much the equilivant to Katy's.
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That is simply not even close to being true.
I despair when I see comments like this.
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Member Since: 6/15/2011
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by Beautiful Liar
People like to talk down on Britney's breakdown
but truth be told.. that break down made Britney a BIGGER icon
she became such a BIG Media force, even the local news station were reporting anything Britney related
There has been many artist breakdown in the industry, but NONE benefited them, the way it did Britney
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true. every artist has her or his own 'breakdown" or like weak era or something
Mariah had TRL and Glitter
Madonna had American Life
but they are still here and still being loved by the public.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by Fruity
That is simply not even close to being true.
I despair when I see comments like this.
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Receipts. 
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Member Since: 1/1/2012
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
But the general public are the ones buying the songs off Itunes, listening to them on the radio, and voting for them at award shows.
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To be honest, I highly doubt that the majority of the general public vote for artists at awards shows like the VMAs, EMAs and other fan polls, the main bulk of the voting comes from stans.
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
But the general public are the ones buying the songs off Itunes, listening to them on the radio, and voting for them at award shows.
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That's just the general public supporting what they like to hear. I really doubt the average person knows how many #1s Katy got with TD or is sitting on iTunes looking at her Popbars.
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Member Since: 9/25/2011
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Originally posted by jomarr
Anyone putting Britney at the bottom
Her impact during her first 5 years in pop music was undeniably the best we had since Madonna. Not even Lady Gaga could top that. Her public breakdown, if not the most followed was one of the most followed celebrity stories of the last decade. Everbody knows who Britney and from people I know, she's always on top of other pop artists even Beyonce and Gaga. She's maybe not as amazing as her prime but EVERYBODY puts her above Gaga and Beyonce. She tops Beyonce easily, as for Gaga.. she may be the it girl right now but Britney will always be up there as the best female artist of the last decade. Most of her fans are now in their early 20s and they are still die hard fans till now.
Madonna, Michael
Britney
Beyonce, Gaga
Rihanna, Katy
Kesha, Nicki
The rest. |
Britney was the female artist that defined the last decade, and her place in The Trinity remains secure as ever. I swear Gaga stans are really trying it right now and embarassing themselves while doing so
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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Originally posted by Alberto
Fixed.
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No you just made seem like Rihanna katy nicki are in the bottom line on The Biggest Loser.
Rih Rih eating those rice cakes 
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Member Since: 4/25/2011
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Originally posted by Loghen
People coming for Ciara based on numbers - she remains more talented than many of the relevant girls.
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I definitely agree but I think this is definitely based on talent, numbers and impact. Ciara may have talent but she didn't have impact or sales to be apart or even be together with the 4 girls below.
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
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i dont think Rihanna is on the same level as Katy & Kesha. 
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Member Since: 5/7/2009
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Originally posted by jomarr
Madonna, Michael
Beyonce,
Britney
Gaga
Rihanna, Katy
Kesha, Nicki
The rest.
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Beyonce is more respected 
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Member Since: 2/15/2012
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Originally posted by jomarr
Anyone putting Britney at the bottom
Her impact during her first 5 years in pop music was undeniably the best we had since Madonna. Not even Lady Gaga could top that. Her public breakdown, if not the most followed was one of the most followed celebrity stories of the last decade. Everbody knows who Britney and from people I know, she's always on top of other pop artists even Beyonce and Gaga. She's maybe not as amazing as her prime but EVERYBODY puts her above Gaga and Beyonce. She tops Beyonce easily, as for Gaga.. she may be the it girl right now but Britney will always be up there as the best female artist of the last decade. Most of her fans are now in their early 20s and they are still die hard fans till now.
Madonna, Michael
Britney
Beyonce, Gaga
Rihanna, Katy
Kesha, Nicki
The rest. |
I'm surprised you ranked Gaga that high.
I thought you didn't really care for her/didn't think she was anything special. 
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Member Since: 6/15/2011
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Originally posted by Kisuke
Beyonce is more respected |
He put her above Gaga, Britney, Rihanna, Katy, etc. Seems right.
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Member Since: 5/7/2009
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Originally posted by Loghen
He put her above Gaga, Britney, Rihanna, Katy, etc. Seems right.
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And all of her peers put her higher as well as all the other industry critics 
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