[Bríseis]

Originally posted by Touchdown

Mariah left Sony around 2001

The scandal exploded in 2005, but its clear that it was a common, prevalent practice of Sony for a very long time.

[Touchdown]

Originally posted by Bríseis

The scandal exploded in 2005, but its clear that it was a common, prevalent practice of Sony for a very long time.

No it's not clear at all tbh.

[Bríseis]

Originally posted by Touchdown

No it's not clear at all tbh.

Read the articles I posted. Its clearly stated by the federal investigation team. If you look into the history, even MJs Thriller album, as successful and groundbreaking as it is, profitted from Franks DiLeos and Sony payola practices.

Not saying that Madonna or other labels never used payola, they of course did, but your comments trying to pretend that those Mariahs #1s under Sony and even after she left werent profiting from payola are just laughable.

[Touchdown]

Originally posted by Bríseis

Read the articles I posted. Its clearly stated by the federal investigation team. If you look into the history, even MJs Thriller album, as successful and groundbreaking as it is, profitted from Franks DiLeos payola practices and his later albums from Sony payola practices.

Not saying that Madonna or other labels never used payola, they of course did, but your comments trying to pretend that those Mariahs #1s under Sony and even after she left werent profiting from payola are just laughable.

They really aren't though, your posts I think are more deserving in the conspiracy thread however.

[Bríseis]

Originally posted by Touchdown

They really aren't though, your posts I think are more deserving in the conspiracy thread however.

Yeah, thats why people are investigated and put in jail, because of conspiracy theories

http://www.billboard.com/biz/article...irection=false

You are really naive, or you just hate to hear the truth.

[Mr. Fahrenheit]

Originally posted by Planet Mars

People really want to argue about that top 5. Joni Mitchell has always been arguably the best female songwriter. Most female artist lack the depth to their lyrics that male songwriters have. It just makes sense that the list will be overwhelmingly male.

You're a dipshit.

[Giliap]

boring/predictable.

Dolly and Prince deserve top 10 spots

[Giliap]

Originally posted by Planet Mars

People really want to argue about that top 5. Joni Mitchell has always been arguably the best female songwriter. Most female artist lack the depth to their lyrics that male songwriters have. It just makes sense that the list will be overwhelmingly male.

lmao

~such depth, ~much emotions

you're a joke

[Touchdown]

Originally posted by Bríseis

Yeah, thats why people are investigated and put in jail, because of conspiracy theories

http://www.billboard.com/biz/article...irection=false

You are really naive, or you just hate to hear the truth.

Oh trust I'm the most non-naive person in the world. But you can believe what you will. I can't stop you. What are your thoughts on the moon landing btw? I'm just wondering. Did we really land on it or was it faked?

[EJQL8]

Originally posted by Bríseis

The scandal exploded in 2005, but its clear that it was a common, prevalent practice of Sony for a very long time.

Hmmmm.... I don't think Mariah's name was included there. Now, Jennifer Lopez on the other hand.

[Planet Mars]

Lol @ people getting pressed at my comment

Name me a female songwriter who has written anything in the league of Lenon/McCartney, Bob Dylan or Smokey Robinson

There are great female songwriters of course Noone is taking that away but the fact you have Taylor Swift on here is just

[Alaska.]

They forgot some amazing songwriters such as Lauryn Hill and Frank Ocean.

Bob #1 as usuall, y'all can seethe.

[Mr. Fahrenheit]

No one is pressed at your comment, Planet Mars. You are simply an intellectually challenged human being, and apparently a misogynist.

Or, more succinctly, a dipshit.

[stevyy]

Originally posted by StonedSoulPicnic

Some of the Lambs in this thread really need to stop acting so pressed. Nothing you say is going to make Mariah more acclaimed than Madonna. Get over it.

nobody tried to do what you are claiming, read again.

Not follwing an argument and then suddenly address points nobody has uttered by claiming somebody did is really disturbing. makes me question ppl's reading comprehension skills.

[beans]

Originally posted by XStaticProcess

And Madonna is still a better songwriter than Mariah.

What did Madona write anyway?

[XStaticProcess]

Originally posted by beans

What did Madona write anyway?

Basically everything since True Blue.True Blue included.

[Mr. Fahrenheit]

Originally posted by beans

What did Madona write anyway?

Most of her own material. About 75% of her songs start with just her or her with another writer/producer.

The others are songs she was given (e.g. Like a Virgin), songs she requested (e.g. Bedtime Story), songs she adapted (e.g. Ray of Light) and covers (e.g. Fever).

[Giliap]

Originally posted by Planet Mars

Lol @ people getting pressed at my comment

Name me a female songwriter who has written anything in the league of Lenon/McCartney, Bob Dylan or Smokey Robinson

There are great female songwriters of course Noone is taking that away but the fact you have Taylor Swift on here is just

1) songwriting ability and talent goes far beyond how "deep" you get. It's a diverse skill.

2) these standards that music publications/media/fans have set are superficial. In reality, the Beatles didn't produce anything that's out of this world genius, sheep like you believe. Many musicians have made music just as good but because Beatles cocksuckers worship them like they're the one standard of quality music, everyone else is average... especially women. that's a load of ****.

I ****ing hate cocksuckers

[Bríseis]

Originally posted by Touchdown

Oh trust I'm the most non-naive person in the world. But you can believe what you will. I can't stop you. What are your thoughts on the moon landing btw? I'm just wondering. Did we really land on it or was it faked?

Funny.
And are you still believing in Santa Claus? Just wondering

[feelslikeadream]

Originally posted by Planet Mars

Lol @ people getting pressed at my comment

Name me a female songwriter who has written anything in the league of Lenon/McCartney, Bob Dylan or Smokey Robinson

It's all subjective bb, but I prefer the female songwriter in this example:

Mariah Carey

It wasn't raining yet
But it was definitely a little misty on
That warm November night
And my heart was pounding
My inner voice resounding
Begging me to turn away
But I just had to see your face to feel alive
And then you casually walked in the room
And I was twisted in the web
Of my desire for you
My apprehension blew away
I only wanted you
To taste my sadness
As you kissed me in the dark

Lennon/McCartney

She loves you, yeah yeah yeah
She loves you, yeah yeah yeah
She loves you, yeah yeah yeah yeah

You think you've lost your love
Well, I saw her yesterday
It's you she's thinking of
And she told me what to say

She says she loves you
And you know that can't be bad
Yes, she loves you
And you know you should be glad