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Discussion: Is Beyonce at Madonna/MJ level?
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When she's 40 and still making albums that sell fairly decently, whilst going on world wide tours that gross well over 200M... She'll be there.
I can see her doing it.
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HAHAHAHAHA no.
She wishes she's at Selene Gomez's level.
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Originally posted by Nhật Thực
kii at your ticket receipts, let me make it clear for you kid.
what is the most important thing which fans, labels, magazine ( billboard, rolling stone, forbes ect ect ) even haters, all people care ? that's the touring GROSS. nobody give a **** how many tickets the artist sold, how cheap/ expensive your ticket is, what people care is GROSS, so gain, stop your ****ing tickets crap
and wait ! why did you only mention touring revenue in pre-2000? but not after 2000 ? oh, i just remember, MJ hadn't had a career since 2000 lol, MJ stans are kind stucking in the past because that's the only thing you can stick with.
Let's talk about his induction into dance hall of fame, how ironic that his name hadn't been inducted into dance HOF when he reached his peak or he's alive  a big artist will automatically be more respected after their death, the induction into Dance HOF belongs to many other effects ( including selling a lot of records)whic were caused by his death. so we will talk about Madonna's induction into ___(some kind of )___hall of fame after her death.
actually, i don't want to wash my time to convince you to like Madonna dancing, your delusion is not worthy, she still has billions of fans waiting her out there.
before talking about the genres that you listed from his discography, just let me lol for a moment at Opera =))))
compare the diversity of MJ music to Madonnas is totally delusion and ignorance =)))) Madonna covering more genres and topics tha than MJ, that's ther truth, unless you've never heard full of her discography, to help you, i just name a few : electronica, folktronica, disco, dance, EDM, R&B, world, latin, pop, baroque pop, new jack swing, soul, jazz, musical, gospel, trip hop, ambient, ............
i will let alone this phrase as well as letting you drown yourself in delusion if it makes you feel better to think MJ is more impactful than Madonna.
and GP is not a person, you will never have idea which one they prefer
yeah i agree he's untouchable, who wants to touch the grave depth ? ( report this comment if you want ) |
1. Madonna's comparable tours to Michael's gross-wise (i.e. in the same decades) are a fraction of Michael's grosses.
2. Madonna's biggest selling tour is over a million tickets short of Michael's best selling tour, even though Madge's was in the late 2000s and Michael's two in the late 80s and mid-90s respectively. It's too funny that you can't deal with thaT as you pretend an 80s/90s tour should have made the same as a late 2000s tour
3. It makes no sense to compare tour grosses from a tour from the 2000s to the on before it. Doing so makes you desperate, though your comment oozes desperation regardless.
4. Post-2000 MJ: released an album his label attempted to sabotage (which he successfully proved in court) yet it still outsold all Madge albums released in the 2000s (before his death). He also sold out fifty shows at a single arena venue in London, something no other artist could ever imagine doing, unless Elvis or John Lennon were alive today. (Speaking of Lennon, Michael pushed for The Beatles #1 album to be released in the early 2000s as an owner to the royalties of their songs. It became the best selling album of the decade, and nobody made more off of it than Michael).
5. Listen to the first few minutes of this song. It's called opera, sis. Get a clue.
6. Nobody is inducted into these institutions at their peak, retrospective views are always taken, hence MJ was induced to the Songwriters HOF in 2002 and the Rock N' Roll HOF in 1997 AND 2001. You seem hilariously pressedT at this.
7. I never pretended Madge didn't cover more genres. Keep spouting them, while she rests over 150 million records behind Michael's count despite having released far more albums and singles. Michael has always been leaps and bounds ahead of Madonna in sales - his death didn't change it, it just increased the margin. Not to mention 400-450M is conservative for MJ and controversial considering Sony insist Thriller passed 100M copies. Comparatively, 300M is inflated to no end for Madonna.
8. The GP prefers the artist they bought more records from. The artist who got lauded with more awards. The artist who isn't diluting their once-great repertoire with mediocre dance music and desperate attempts to stay relevant by jumping on the "what's current" bandwagon.
You are so floppy it's inducing!
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Originally posted by Rusty
1. Madonna's comparable tours to Michael's gross-wise (i.e. in the same decades) are a fraction of Michael's grosses.
2. Madonna's biggest selling tour is over a million tickets short of Michael's best selling tour, even though Madge's was in the late 2000s and Michael's two in the late 80s and mid-90s respectively. It's too funny that you can't deal with thaT as you pretend an 80s/90s tour should have made the same as a late 2000s tour
3. It makes no sense to compare tour grosses from a tour from the 2000s to the on before it. Doing so makes you desperate, though your comment oozes desperation regardless.
4. Post-2000 MJ: released an album his label attempted to sabotage (which he successfully proved in court) yet it still outsold all Madge albums released in the 2000s (before his death). He also sold out fifty shows at a single arena venue in London, something no other artist could ever imagine doing, unless Elvis or John Lennon were alive today. (Speaking of Lennon, Michael pushed for The Beatles #1 album to be released in the early 2000s as an owner to the royalties of their songs. It became the best selling album of the decade, and nobody made more off of it than Michael).
5. Listen to the first few minutes of this song. It's called opera, sis. Get a clue.
6. Nobody is inducted into these institutions at their peak, retrospective views are always taken, hence MJ was induced to the Songwriters HOF in 2002 and the Rock N' Roll HOF in 1997 AND 2001. You seem hilariously pressedT at this.
7. I never pretended Madge didn't cover more genres. Keep spouting them, while she rests over 150 million records behind Michael's count despite having released far more albums and singles. Michael has always been leaps and bounds ahead of Madonna in sales - his death didn't change it, it just increased the margin. Not to mention 400-450M is conservative for MJ and controversial considering Sony insist Thriller passed 100M copies. Comparatively, 300M is inflated to no end for Madonna.
8. The GP prefers the artist they bought more records from. The artist who got lauded with more awards. The artist who isn't diluting their once-great repertoire with mediocre dance music and desperate attempts to stay relevant by jumping on the "what's current" bandwagon.
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Thanks for sharing.
Lemme perch and wait for Madonna's NEW album and NEW tour. 
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Thanks for sharing.
Lemme perch and wait for Madonna's NEW album and NEW tour. |
Enjoy, sis. Michael's from earlier this year slayed.
I hope Madge's newest effort isn't as terrible as MDNA and her tour goes back to being great, like with Sticky and Sweet.
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Originally posted by Rusty
1. Madonna's comparable tours to Michael's gross-wise (i.e. in the same decades) are a fraction of Michael's grosses.
2. Madonna's biggest selling tour is over a million tickets short of Michael's best selling tour, even though Madge's was in the late 2000s and Michael's two in the late 80s and mid-90s respectively. It's too funny that you can't deal with thaT as you pretend an 80s/90s tour should have made the same as a late 2000s tour
3. It makes no sense to compare tour grosses from a tour from the 2000s to the on before it. Doing so makes you desperate, though your comment oozes desperation regardless.
4. Post-2000 MJ: released an album his label attempted to sabotage (which he successfully proved in court) yet it still outsold all Madge albums released in the 2000s (before his death). He also sold out fifty shows at a single arena venue in London, something no other artist could ever imagine doing, unless Elvis or John Lennon were alive today. (Speaking of Lennon, Michael pushed for The Beatles #1 album to be released in the early 2000s as an owner to the royalties of their songs. It became the best selling album of the decade, and nobody made more off of it than Michael).
5. Listen to the first few minutes of this song. It's called opera, sis. Get a clue.
6. Nobody is inducted into these institutions at their peak, retrospective views are always taken, hence MJ was induced to the Songwriters HOF in 2002 and the Rock N' Roll HOF in 1997 AND 2001. You seem hilariously pressedT at this.
7. I never pretended Madge didn't cover more genres. Keep spouting them, while she rests over 150 million records behind Michael's count despite having released far more albums and singles. Michael has always been leaps and bounds ahead of Madonna in sales - his death didn't change it, it just increased the margin. Not to mention 400-450M is conservative for MJ and controversial considering Sony insist Thriller passed 100M copies. Comparatively, 300M is inflated to no end for Madonna.
8. The GP prefers the artist they bought more records from. The artist who got lauded with more awards. The artist who isn't diluting their once-great repertoire with mediocre dance music and desperate attempts to stay relevant by jumping on the "what's current" bandwagon.
You are so floppy it's inducing! |
stan a bit  I agree with everything 100%
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Originally posted by KangBey
Not to mention, she attended the MCWT, its rare to see Madonna at any pop girl's concert. Madonna knows Bey is the only female artist close to her level of impact, star power, success and wait for it, longevity.  |
Not to mention she also attended Britney's "Circus Tour". Also, she invited Britney to come on stage with her on her Sticky and Sweet Tour. She also shared one of the most memorable and iconic stage performances with Britney. Plus, wait for it, the only "feature" that she did in her entire career was for a Britney song 
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The discussion is , right now, miles away from the thread's subject
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Originally posted by Aniston's Boobs
HAHAHAHAHA no.
She wishes she's at Selene Gomez's level.
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you are lord of delusional..  I'm not surprised, coz you are a brit fan
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Britney was the only one from her generation who moved masses and captivated the world in the level of Madonna & Michael.
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No. I think of her on the same level as like Miley, Nicki and Kesha! She still has time to go before she reaches Madonna and MJ status!
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Originally posted by Wonda
No. I think of her on the same level as like Miley, Nicki and Kesha!
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Puhahahaha... other lord of delusional
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I think beyonce is on the janet jackson level...
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And not ppl saying Britney. Britney stopped being big after 6 years. She is no way near mj and madge. Even beyonce is bigger than her. The brit u loved is gone. And she has been for a while 
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Originally posted by Rusty
1. Madonna's comparable tours to Michael's gross-wise (i.e. in the same decades) are a fraction of Michael's grosses.
2. Madonna's biggest selling tour is over a million tickets short of Michael's best selling tour, even though Madge's was in the late 2000s and Michael's two in the late 80s and mid-90s respectively. It's too funny that you can't deal with thaT as you pretend an 80s/90s tour should have made the same as a late 2000s tour
3. It makes no sense to compare tour grosses from a tour from the 2000s to the on before it. Doing so makes you desperate, though your comment oozes desperation regardless.
4. Post-2000 MJ: released an album his label attempted to sabotage (which he successfully proved in court) yet it still outsold all Madge albums released in the 2000s (before his death). He also sold out fifty shows at a single arena venue in London, something no other artist could ever imagine doing, unless Elvis or John Lennon were alive today. (Speaking of Lennon, Michael pushed for The Beatles #1 album to be released in the early 2000s as an owner to the royalties of their songs. It became the best selling album of the decade, and nobody made more off of it than Michael).
5. Listen to the first few minutes of this song. It's called opera, sis. Get a clue.
6. Nobody is inducted into these institutions at their peak, retrospective views are always taken, hence MJ was induced to the Songwriters HOF in 2002 and the Rock N' Roll HOF in 1997 AND 2001. You seem hilariously pressedT at this.
7. I never pretended Madge didn't cover more genres. Keep spouting them, while she rests over 150 million records behind Michael's count despite having released far more albums and singles. Michael has always been leaps and bounds ahead of Madonna in sales - his death didn't change it, it just increased the margin. Not to mention 400-450M is conservative for MJ and controversial considering Sony insist Thriller passed 100M copies. Comparatively, 300M is inflated to no end for Madonna.
8. The GP prefers the artist they bought more records from. The artist who got lauded with more awards. The artist who isn't diluting their once-great repertoire with mediocre dance music and desperate attempts to stay relevant by jumping on the "what's current" bandwagon.
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1. firstly Madonna always had less numbers of shows than MJ in 90s
2&3. lol it makes sense since your comparision about their tickets doesn't make any sense, none of Madonna's tours in 80s and 90s reached 80 shows.
Madonna made $70,000,000 total gross with only 39 show in girlie show tour while MJ made $165,000,000 with 82 shows in HIStory World Tour
average gross/show of girlie show was 1.79 mil while average gross/show of history tour was 1.8
and she still has two in top 10 tours of 90s
4. you mean Invincible ?
Music : World: 15,000,000/ US: 3× Platinum ( 2,925,000 )
Invincible : World: 13,000,000 / US: 2× Multi-Platinum ( 2,329,000 )
where is the outsold ?
Madonna also soldout show 85 at 85 venues WW, who needs to soldout a single venue when you can do it WW
5. OMG, OMG, OMG, so embrassing ! you don't even know what is the difference between choral music and opera, i was expecting something better from you =)))
6. yes you get my point, we can talk about Madonna induction into Dance HOF ( or not ) after her death. Madonna was inducted into rock and roll hall of fame too, remember this, there're only 12 female solo artists inducred into Rock and roll HOF among 304 other acts, that's the sexism issue, Madonna was also nominated for the 2014 Songwriters Hall of Fame. the both are later than MJ's induction but let me remind you that Madonna also started her career a lot later than Mj, one decade, his active years in jackson 5 are not included. with a very controversial female artist like Madonna, she's very respected by the critics compared to other ones who always keep her their life and art in a safe bound, i feel proundly instead of being pressed
7. did i refuse that MJ has the bigger sales than Madonnas ? Madonna only has 2 studio album over MJ but MJ had loads of compilation & remixed albums. his death changed alot, before his death people only cared of his scandal instead of the music.
8. No, the sales of record never reflect on which artist the GP prefer when there's kind of fans who can buy multiple copies of one album, there''re so many reasons for an artist to sell more albums than other ones. how funny you said Madonna jumping on the current trends to stay relevant when MJ was a true trend follower. Off the Wall, Thriller are two albums with post disco, funk, rock influence which was the trend of late 70s, Bad is an dance-rock based pop album and Dangerous is the catching-up on his younger sister's sound, new jack swing, MJ was always a trend follower.
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Not yet, but she'll definitely will be. I see her already bigger than Britney and Britney is really near both
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Originally posted by Rei
No, from her generation only Britney is near their level IMO.
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Lol. Try again. 
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She's between Madonna and the other pop girls, she's in between.
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