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Originally posted by Truth Teller
Don't get me started  Ugh, I still hate her for that
Sevyn had It Won't Stop and a lot of the new pop girls have had moderate hits too, but no album in sight and no establishment in the game. It's hard out here for a bitch. Lily Allen, ha prophecy 
But yeah, I get your point. I think nobody in her team (including Tinashe) knows who Tinashe wants to be or who she should be or how she should bridge the two. I mean, didn't she almost release I Luh Ya Papi with the n-word as a lead single before 2 On happened? We got lucky with 2 On, I guess, and we just have to wait for her to get lucky or for her to find someone who knows what to do with her so that she won''t have to rely on luck  |
I still remember when she performed it on 106 & Park...and it was so dead. I bet people were like who tf is this bitch?  It was just mad awkward if I remember correctly. That should have been a sign right there. lol.
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Reading through the above posts was really a downer 
Just a general question though, what kind of image do you guys want her to go for? I think it's obvious for everyone to see that she hops from one image to another but what would you guys choose for her to stick with? Sound wise, I'm always gonna go R&B T>>>> Pop T and I feel like she should build off of her mixtape sounds/continue to push the sound she had on Aquarius.
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If another label doesn't sign her then she should just go back to being independent then and continuing to make PBR&B music as a way to get back her core fans etc. Most of her fans think that her mixtapes are better than her mainstream stuff (I think so too).
It also contributes to the reason as to why she should put up her mixtapes on streaming services. If the GP don't like her mainstream stuff, they could give her mixtapes a listen. She could also earn some coins off that.
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Do we know who took down Reverie and Black Water when they were on Spotify? It's up to that person/group to put them on Spotify as it seems anyone who has the rights of the material can put their music on Spotify anyways.
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Reading through the above posts was really a downer |
Yeah, we kinda do that, don't we? We randomly revive this thread to get together and share our frustrations about Legend T's career.  I'll lowkey miss that if she breaks through, ngl
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Originally posted by Pink Matter
Just a general question though, what kind of image do you guys want her to go for? I think it's obvious for everyone to see that she hops from one image to another but what would you guys choose for her to stick with? Sound wise, I'm always gonna go R&B T>>>> Pop T and I feel like she should build off of her mixtape sounds/continue to push the sound she had on Aquarius.
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You know Mya, right? She lowkey had a GREAT thing going in her prime. She was right between r&b and pop, she was sexy and tomboy-ish / hip, she had tons of catchy midtempos. I see a lot of her in Tinashe and it's the kind of image and sound that could work for Tinashe, singles wise (her album cuts would be of a different quality). But it didn't really work for Mya to begin with, so Idk
If it was up to me, I'd want her to go the Aaliyah route. Straight up r&b, often a little experimental, very mellow and soft etc. But that's not who she is, so I respect that
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Originally posted by Truth Teller
Don't get me started Ugh, I still hate her for that
Sevyn had It Won't Stop and a lot of the new pop girls have had moderate hits too, but no album in sight and no establishment in the game. It's hard out here for a bitch. Lily Allen, ha prophecy
But yeah, I get your point. I think nobody in her team (including Tinashe) knows who Tinashe wants to be or who she should be or how she should bridge the two. I mean, didn't she almost release I Luh Ya Papi with the n-word as a lead single before 2 On happened? We got lucky with 2 On, I guess, and we just have to wait for her to get lucky or for her to find someone who knows what to do with her so that she won''t have to rely on luck |
nnnnnnnnnnn this has me ****ing screaming. i didn't know that 
I think a 2016 single could've been successful if she disappeared after Player and came back with a newly defined image/sound. Choose a genre, choose a performing style (Alicia Keys vs. Mya/Britney. You can't do both at least not right away), choose a fashion sense, etc.
They have spent a ton of money on her this past year despite her going against their wishes multiple times. I agree, if they wanted to wipe their hands of her they'd just release the album. Top 40 though... a mess and a half. I wish she would work with the hot producers right now and get hot features because that will at least bring attention to the next single. The-Dream and Tricky Stewart is exciting to hear for stans but not the executives at iHeartRadio. I still think Ride of Your Life was a wasted opportunity... it could've been re-worked into an urban hit
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Originally posted by Pink Matter
Reading through the above posts was really a downer
Just a general question though, what kind of image do you guys want her to go for? I think it's obvious for everyone to see that she hops from one image to another but what would you guys choose for her to stick with? Sound wise, I'm always gonna go R&B T>>>> Pop T and I feel like she should build off of her mixtape sounds/continue to push the sound she had on Aquarius.
Do we know who took down Reverie and Black Water when they were on Spotify? It's up to that person/group to put them on Spotify as it seems anyone who has the rights of the material can put their music on Spotify anyways. |
I think she was the one who took it down
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Originally posted by Truth Teller
Yeah, we kinda do that, don't we? We randomly revive this thread to get together and share our frustrations about Legend T's career. I'll lowkey miss that if she breaks through, ngl
You know Mya, right? She lowkey had a GREAT thing going in her prime. She was right between r&b and pop, she was sexy and tomboy-ish / hip, she had tons of catchy midtempos. I see a lot of her in Tinashe and it's the kind of image and sound that could work for Tinashe, singles wise (her album cuts would be of a different quality). But it didn't really work for Mya to begin with, so Idk
If it was up to me, I'd want her to go the Aaliyah route. Straight up r&b, often a little experimental, very mellow and soft etc. But that's not who she is, so I respect that |
I feel that would suit her well but trying to emulate Aaliyah's image would be even more detrimental to T.
They don't like to admit but Aaliyah stans can be very ruthless to people coming for her spot 
Isn't that why Tweet never made back in the day? Because Aaliyah stans thought Missy and Timbo were trying to replace Aaliyah with Tweet?
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I think she was the one who took it down
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She needs to get it together ASAP 
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Originally posted by Truth Teller
Yeah, we kinda do that, don't we? We randomly revive this thread to get together and share our frustrations about Legend T's career. I'll lowkey miss that if she breaks through, ngl
You know Mya, right? She lowkey had a GREAT thing going in her prime. She was right between r&b and pop, she was sexy and tomboy-ish / hip, she had tons of catchy midtempos. I see a lot of her in Tinashe and it's the kind of image and sound that could work for Tinashe, singles wise (her album cuts would be of a different quality). But it didn't really work for Mya to begin with, so Idk
If it was up to me, I'd want her to go the Aaliyah route. Straight up r&b, often a little experimental, very mellow and soft etc. But that's not who she is, so I respect that |
You are SOOOO right about Mya. Never really thought about her, but she did play both sides of the fence well during her prime.
I think that's also b/c she started out strictly R&B though (Sisqo was featured on her first single for God's sake lol)....so she had that solid R&B audience before going Pop. I think that's why it worked for her.
I think that's what is missing for Tinashe, she started out trying to do too much.
I think Christina Milian had a similar situation. She was teeny bopper Pop ("AM to PM") then went sexy crossover music ("Dip It Low") and then went try to portray this "street persona" ("Say I"). She was ALL OVER the place. But she also had mad potential too. She's an amazing dancer - something they also didn't showcase enough earlier on in her career. I still remember "Say I" BTS video that leaked. She did that whole routine in heels and KILT it. 
Anyways, to answer the question...she should do R&B. But I dunno if it's too late to turn back now.
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It's the total package though. Her material isn't the strongest, but even though she still gets pushed, her singles era's mainly get 2 broadcasted performances if we are lucky and beside that the song basically has to build from itself.
Ofcourse labels don't make money from streams, I don't even use streaming platforms (beside YouTube, if that counts) myself But it is an important factor in some markets for succes these days.
I mean let's be honest All My Friends could have been even bigger had RCA put some coins and focus to the song, it actually could have been the ticket to launch this era, yet they just let the ship sail. And here we are with Superlove, where they probably spent a lot of money on to get the producers on the track, they spent coins on a good visual and there is no sight of an album.
Superlove is currently C-list on Uk radio and Just Say B-list. If her label has any sense, they should try to promote her overseas and make both those songs hits atleast across UK and maybe the rest of Europe and there is also a big possibility that with a bit of focus Australia also would eat those songs up. |
What are streams gonna do for Tinashe? We see the Superlove video did nothing despite it doing well for an artist of her status.
Y'all see streams as something as it isn't.
Streams are only good for discovering like on Spotify, but to promote an album? To sell music?
She needs COINS and people are not willing to give her any. Not even her own fans.
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Sevyn, Jhene, Kehlani, June Diary, Tink, yaddah yaddah aren't getting the deals Tee is. They did not have a 2 On size hit.
Look, when Tee first signed her and the label thought she was going to be the next superstar, rightfully so. They still do honestly think that. That is why we see her slowly getting around in the industry. She's getting papped and put on TMZ. She has a fake PR realationship with Calvin which they are going wrong about. If you're gonna do a PR realationship, do it right.
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To answer the question about what her image should be, it should be the girl next door one. That image has been dormant for more than over a decade and she could pull off.
The girl next door is that cute nerdy goofy chick that is your best friend and very down to earth. She is also extremely friendly and such a girly girl, but she does from time time dress down because she can.
This Rihanna x Aaliyah thing everybody wants to pull off is outplayed and done. Nobody sees Tinashe as this bad chick. That's why she got the backlash from SWM remix. It was not believable. Her current image is not believable.
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Sevyn, Jhene, Kehlani, June Diary, Tink, yaddah yaddah aren't getting the deals Tee is. They did not have a 2 On size hit.
Look, when Tee first signed her and the label thought she was going to be the next superstar, rightfully so. They still do honestly think that. That is why we see her slowly getting around in the industry. She's getting papped and put on TMZ. She has a fake PR realationship with Calvin which they are going wrong about. If you're gonna do a PR realationship, do it right.
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But Kehlani received a Grammy nomination for a mixtape (when Aquarius should've been nommed instead  ) and has a track on the new Suicide Squad album. She too is making her way round the industry. Not to mention the debacle between her, Kyrie and Party which she also got publicity from.
In terms of promotion when it comes to Tinashe, it's about getting her more performance slots and award shows for example, daytime events etc. There were some of that during the Aquarius era but there's less of it in this era.
If Tinashe was on a better label, I do believe she would've blown up by now.
She confirmed that her and Calvin aren't dating and visibility she's receiving now is one of the ways to drum up hype for Joyride.
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Back in the mid-00s AHOD and 'Superlove' would've been big with such videos, but today, it's just not cutting it, especially when she ain't on the level of a Ariana Grande for example.
'All My Friends' will forever stay the US hit that got away, it was literally PERFECT for her. It coulda been the song that would launch the album, the song that she could base her next hit singles on. They tried a little bit with that Kimmel performance, but they couldn't have seriously expected it to smash from 1 televised performance alone. It needed payola, radio tours and the top Spotify playlists. And they didn't even try to promote her in the countries where AML did happen, where she still has some hype from it. But no
but it ain't too late now. Make your own type of 'All My Friends' song, socially relatable, cool, catchy track featuring relevant producers and upcomers w/ urban cred.
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Originally posted by AFullMoonlight
To answer the question about what her image should be, it should be the girl next door one. That image has been dormant for more than over a decade and she could pull off.
The girl next door is that cute nerdy goofy chick that is your best friend and very down to earth. She is also extremely friendly and such a girly girl, but she does from time time dress down because she can.
This Rihanna x Aaliyah thing everybody wants to pull off is outplayed and done. Nobody sees Tinashe as this bad chick. That's why she got the backlash from SWM remix. It was not believable. Her current image is not believable.
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Would you say the Superlove video played off that image/did it well?
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i think her image at the moment is great, her fashion/makeup & hair have been on point for the most part these past few months and i think she pulls it off really well
she isnt wearing "cheap" outfits at red carpets anymore, even in candids shes been looking great
i think this style/image looks amazing on her, kind of tomboyish but still girly and fashionable, if you compare this to what she looked like at most red carpets a couple years ago, shes come a long way
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But Kehlani received a Grammy nomination for a mixtape (when Aquarius should've been nommed instead ) and has a track on the new Suicide Squad album. She too is making her way round the industry. Not to mention the debacle between her, Kyrie and Party which she also got publicity from.
In terms of promotion when it comes to Tinashe, it's about getting her more performance slots and award shows for example, daytime events etc. There were some of that during the Aquarius era but there's less of it in this era.
If Tinashe was on a better label, I do believe she would've blown up by now.
She confirmed that her and Calvin aren't dating and visibility she's receiving now is one of the ways to drum up hype for Joyride. |
Kehlani getting nominated for a Grammy has nothing to do with her actual promotion. Tinashe was put on the hunger games soundtrack.
Tinashe has more deals in terms as products and magazine coverage.
We also have to take in consideration some of the TV slots she has already gotten before and what they did for her. When she she sung AHOD on that daytime show, did it help boost the song sales? RCA looks at stuff like that.
Also, it is a PR relationship. It is not real. Its just something to get people talking about her.
Selenators hate to admit it, but Jelena started off as PR. That crap was not real. It was just something to set Selena up for a career outside of Disney. She too denied that anything was going on despite being papped going on outings with him.
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i think her image at the moment is great, her fashion/makeup & hair have been on point for the most part these past few months and i think she pulls it off really well
she isnt wearing "cheap" outfits at red carpets anymore, even in candids shes been looking great
i think this style/image looks amazing on her, kind of tomboyish but still girly and fashionable, if you compare this to what she looked like at most red carpets a couple years ago, shes come a long way |
She looks good, but honestly who is not being dressed like this? What the industry needs and wants is for something fresh new and groundbreaking. Back in the day, when there was possibilities for people to become superstars, people made trends instead of following them.
Do you guys understand where I'm coming from? I am not trying to bring her down. I'm just simply stating what needs to be done for her to breakout.
I hate to say it but if Tinashe does not do it, some unknown chick in the next 3 to 5 years will breakout with something new and fresh. I'm not not just talking about image look wise but also sound wise.
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the biggest issue with Tinashe is her single choices and single quality. we all can agree all the single/songs that was released this era were weak or had zero hit potential. With each single she gets more desperate and release less quality song in order to play up to the current trends to get a hit ( meanless songs that goes nowhere lyrically, creatively, and production wise and have little to no originality). I could see from a light year away superlove would never be a hit and if it did become a hit it wouldn't be a beneficial ones. She need to stop chasing trend or release cheesy catchy material like these talentless hoes. She need to standout by being organically different, a song that make a statements organically. the thing is, even if she make it with the song she releasing currently she will be a one hit wonders or one era wonder at the most, and no-one will take her seriously. i honestly think the songs she release as singles are the worst but most catchiest song on the album. I think she should take a chance and release one of the best song she has recorded and the most organic Tinashe song as a single and have some dope rapper as a feature and get some dope producers to add that mainstream flavor to it and see how thing goes.i think she has a better chance of making it by releasing an excellent phenomenal experimental organic Tinashe track with a hint of pop and/or urban, something that different and good and not to distance were the GP can't relate or get into. different enough were the GP feel like they dope and artistic and ****.
i am still mad they didn't try to get vulnerable in the 50 shade soundtrack.
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I think she should take a chance and release one of the best song has recorded and the most organic as the a single and have some dope rapper as a feature and get some dope producers to add that mainstream flavor to it and see how thing goes
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Didn't she already try that with Pretend ft. A$AP Rocky.
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She looks good, but honestly who is not being dressed like this? What the industry needs and wants is for something fresh new and groundbreaking. Back in the day, when there was possibilities for people to become superstars, people made trends instead of following them.
Do you guys understand where I'm coming from? I am not trying to bring her down. I'm just simply stating what needs to be done for her to breakout.
I hate to say it but if Tinashe does not do it, some unknown chick in the next 3 to 5 years will breakout with something new and fresh. I'm not not just talking about image look wise but also sound wise.
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i agree, it doesnt bring anything new but thats hard to do these days
i think the main issue is her singles, theyre are always lackluster (except AHOD) yet her album tracks are stellar, sometimes i think she needs someone else to write her singles and she can take control of the rest of the album... she writes amazing lyrics but i dont think she has an ear for hits yet
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