[WeFoundWill]

Originally posted by Deemy

I always said this and In will say it again.. I don't want Rihanna on Roc Nation. I don't like her on Roc Nation. I feel like her career will suffer because now he has so much control over her and her career. When Jay Z left Def Jam in 2007 as its President that is when Rihanna became the superstar that she is today. It wasn't Jay Z it was LA Reid. He is the one that singlehandledly made her this superstar. Jay Z had nothing to do with it but yet he took credit. Under Jay Z's wing he was trying to make her a mini Beyonce rather than carving out her own niche by doing music Beyonce doesnt do. LA Reid saw the market for a Black Pop star and capitalize off that. I just don't like the idea of her being under Beyonce's husband. Im not saying he's gonna be malicious but at the end of the day Beyonce is his wife and he wouldn't want to see any other female artist doing better than her. Thats why its a bit scary for me. I wish she would have taken her chances and move to Epic Records back with LA. He always had her best interests at heart. Def Jam as much as we hate them at times, would NEVER allow Rih to release a risky ass song like FFS and not have suitable promo lined up. They handled Rated R perfectly in my eyes with the change of material and gave her ample promo opportunities when Russian Roulette "was not what people expected".

are you INSANE ? EPIC RECORDS ?! Ha career would've been dead and gone by now

[Rider]

Originally posted by soramaro

Ok, my avi is back!

Noo why is it smaller. fix it

[M i x]

Maroon 5 will play next year. Bookmark iT.

[Deemy]

Originally posted by WeFoundWill

are you INSANE ? EPIC RECORDS ?! Ha career would've been dead and gone by now

I said "take her chances" or re-negotiate her contract with Def Jam and get a better deal. Im sure they would have been willing to meet her demands she's their most successful artist.

[Pandora30012]

Originally posted by istan4badgalriri

And people are still gonna find excuses to say its just a buzz single

[BajanBeauty]

Originally posted by kennylovesRihanna

This is the first time Roc Nation has ever done one of her eras, Jay Brown is her manager and a managers job is to manager her career, but promo and stuff is all managed by the labels as they pay for promo and other stuff. Jay Brown stepped in as manager the middle of the LOUD era but RocNation as a label has never managed her before

Sure labels may pay finance the heavy promo, but its also the job of the manager to book said shows. Jay brown was booking Rihanna at A, B, D,C locations during the LOUD era.

And again blaming everything on RocNation only goes but so far. Y'all don't ever stop to think maybe Rihanna herself doesn't want to be out there doing 101 things. She already said how sick and tired she was during TTT era and we saw how everything took a toll on her physically. She was skinny as **** ( I doubt she wants to go back to that place)

Besides what label in their right mind would miss opportunities to make money off an artist.

[Cas]

Originally posted by BajanBeauty

They don't even know. But its amazing how people went from begging for music to finally getting it and being unsupportive.

What did you expect? She came out of nowhere with this quite unpopular sound that many people are not interested into. The song sounds flat with no progression whatsoever. If you put FFS on repeat it's kinda difficult to know where the song ends and begins. People would support her if the material was better. Let's not pretend that if FFS was just an album track, y'all wouldn't skip it every time and call it filler. For all I know the 3 snippets seemed way better than this folk single.

And believe me, I've tried so much to like this song but it's just so mediocre to me. A performance or a video might change my vision of it but so far I don't get any pleasure from listening to it. This never happens with a Rih single to me, let alone a lead single, NEVER.

[taylor__fan]

I come here to say that i'm not even a fan
But I'm addicted to FourFiveSeconds

[Matangi]

So did she perform No Type with Rae Sremmurd or not ?

[Matangi]

Thank God FFS really grew on me I really really like it now and it sounds great on the radio.

[WeFoundWill]

Originally posted by taylor__fan

I come here to say that i'm not even a fan
But I'm addicted to FourFiveSeconds

seeing a fellow Swiftie praising Rihanna always warms my heart

[BajanBeauty]

Originally posted by Deemy

I always said this and In will say it again.. I don't want Rihanna on Roc Nation. I don't like her on Roc Nation. I feel like her career will suffer because now he has so much control over her and her career. When Jay Z left Def Jam in 2007 as its President that is when Rihanna became the superstar that she is today. It wasn't Jay Z it was LA Reid. He is the one that singlehandledly made her this superstar. Jay Z had nothing to do with it but yet he took credit. Under Jay Z's wing he was trying to make her a mini Beyonce rather than carving out her own niche by doing music Beyonce doesnt do. LA Reid saw the market for a Black Pop star and capitalize off that. I just don't like the idea of her being under Beyonce's husband. Im not saying he's gonna be malicious but at the end of the day Beyonce is his wife and he wouldn't want to see any other female artist doing better than her. Thats why its a bit scary for me. I wish she would have taken her chances and move to Epic Records back with LA. He always had her best interests at heart. Def Jam as much as we hate them at times, would NEVER allow Rih to release a risky ass song like FFS and not have suitable promo lined up. They handled Rated R perfectly in my eyes with the change of material and gave her ample promo opportunities when Russian Roulette "was not what people expected".

I understand your concerns and I think Rihanna is more conscious of the fact she needs to put herself 1st and not rely on others. Which is why IMO she started Westbury Road Ent. RocNation is now her distributor and if P&C stands for what I think it does ( Publishing and Copyrights)? she's protecting herself.

We don't know the extents of her contract but I don't think Rihanna the 26 year old woman would be going so hard for RocNation events if she wasn't happy with her contract or how she's being handled. She's not a 16 yr naive girl tryna make it big, she could've went anywhere but chose Roc for a reason.

Plus her contract w Def Jam was so bad, she rarely saw any major profits. I'm willing to bet she will now see a great financial return with her upcoming projects (endorsements, tours, albums, singles) & as far as Def Jam not letting her release something like 4FS says a lot. I honestly think she has way more creative freedom now and is exploring things. Will it pay off who knows, but give her props for taking the risk.

[MikeFenty]

Originally posted by Matangi

So did she perform No Type with Rae Sremmurd or not ?

According to Billboard.. yes.

[Lein]

Originally posted by BajanBeauty

Sure labels may pay finance the heavy promo, but its also the job of the manager to book said shows. Jay brown was booking Rihanna at A, B, D,C locations during the LOUD era.

And again blaming everything on RocNation only goes but so far. Y'all don't ever stop to think maybe Rihanna herself doesn't want to be out there doing 101 things. She already said how sick and tired she was during TTT era and we saw how everything took a toll on her physically. She was skinny as **** ( I doubt she wants to go back to that place)

Besides what label in their right mind would miss opportunities to make money off an artist.

Preach!!!!

Rih was at the breaking point during TTT era or remember the weekly mess during the DWT? Hitting fans with the mic, being late or drunk .

Overworking aint cute even if an artist is on the top of the world, see Mariah or Eminem and others

[Matangi]

Originally posted by MikeFenty

According to Billboard.. yes.

That collab is really happening then. Yasss bitch

[aaron511]

Originally posted by kennylovesRihanna

This is the first time Roc Nation has ever done one of her eras, Jay Brown is her manager and a managers job is to manager her career, but promo and stuff is all managed by the labels as they pay for promo and other stuff. Jay Brown stepped in as manager the middle of the LOUD era but RocNation as a label has never managed her before

And that's when it all went...

[Pandora30012]

Yall keep blaming roc nation and her managers but tbh I think rih is done with yearly releases and promo. I dont think shes into that anymore

[kennylovesRihanna]

Originally posted by aaron511

And that's when it all went...

[kennylovesRihanna]

Originally posted by Pandora30012

Yall keep blaming roc nation and her managers but tbh I think rih is done with yearly releases and promo. I dont think shes into that anymore

I disagree I think the yearly releases were her idea, I remember Def Jam wanted to make TTT a LOUD rereleases, had Ryan Seacrest reporting it and everything, but Rih wanted to hurry up out her contract and like she said she actually enjoys making music and releasing music. I think she will continue her yearly releases if she can, but the issue with RocNation is that they are a MUCH smaller label than Def Jam, so they can't afford to do yearly releases.....Just look at how long it's taken for Rita's 2nd album to come out, if she was with Def Jam they wouldve jumped on releasing an album as soon as I Will Never Let You Down hit #1

[DILF $]

Originally posted by MikeFenty

Billboard confirming it's indeed a flok song. RS101 will be happy.

Another day, another slayage for the folk lovers.