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Poll: Katy vs Gaga:More Remembered In 25 years?
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Katy
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39.53% |
Gaga
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Originally posted by Scheiße.
They just throw useless drags and false statements without even thinking about it
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maybe there was too many of them to remember. There's like 9 right?
It's not like the member only had to remember 2 or say, 3.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
It has nothing to do with commercial success, bud.
Gaga's artistry comes second to her image. That shouldn't be a secret to you. Everyone knows her based on her outfits, her antics and her shock tactics.
Katy is known for her body of work even if they can't immediately name her number 1's, they know she got them. They know she's a hit maker.
Meat dress vs Hits
I know which one will be remembered.
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I would love to see RoarRiteNow1 agreeing with you, since she said people don't know about #1s
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Saying Katy makes the same music is such a tired drag when Prism alone has multiple genres of music. Monsters need to do better!
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
It has nothing to do with commercial success, bud.
Gaga's artistry comes second to her image. That shouldn't be a secret to you. Everyone knows her based on her outfits, her antics and her shock tactics.
Katy is known for her body of work even if they can't immediately name her number 1's, they know she got them. They know she's a hit maker.
Meat dress vs Hits
I know which one will be remembered.
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"It has nothing to do with commercial success."
"Hits are what's remembered."
How does that make sense? This logic can be applied to Cyndi vs. Madonna. Cyndi had the hits, Madonna had the image and controversy. While both are remembered, Madonna came out on top.
Gaga has sold more.
Gaga has won more.
Gaga has grossed more.
She didn't do all that 'cause of some damn outfit. Try again.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
maybe there was too many of them to remember. There's like 9 right?
It's not like the member only had to remember 2 or say, 3.
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she still doesn't know about them which means false statement.
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Originally posted by RoarRiteNow1
Saying Katy makes the same music is such a tired drag when Prism alone has multiple genres of music. Monsters need to do better!
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Prism is a great album that helped bring back the return of true pop music.
It was all about EDM and then Roar came out which is a classic pop tune. The business then switched from EDM - POP
Katy was instrumental in that change and was great to see her grow as an artist.
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Originally posted by Prismatic
Hits are what people will remember 25 years later, not some random "iconic" outfit or performance.
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You act like Gaga hasn't amassed a range of hits throughout her career. Poker Face and Bad Romance are bigger than any Katy song anyway. Let's not forget her albums are way more memorable as well which is why they've sold double.
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Originally posted by Bang Up
"It has nothing to do with commercial success."
"Hits are what's remembered."
How does that make sense? This logic can be applied to Cyndi vs. Madonna. Cyndi had the hits, Madonna had the image and controversy. While both are remembered, Madonna came out on top.
Gaga has sold more.
Gaga has won more.
Gaga has grossed more.
She didn't do all that 'cause of some damn outfit. Try again.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
Prism is a great album that helped bring back the return of true pop music.
It was all about EDM and then Roar came out which is a classic pop tune. The business then switched from EDM - POP
Katy was instrumental in that change and was great to see her grow as an artist.
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We already had Brave tho
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
it's going to be Katy.
When one thinks of gaga, you think of her career stunts, crazy outfits and her being eccentric. When you think of Katy you think of her body of work.
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Body of work? Her albums are some of the most generic collection of songs in pop music. None of these albums have been proven to be innovative artistically or have an impact outside of commercial success.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
It has nothing to do with commercial success, bud.
Gaga's artistry comes second to her image. That shouldn't be a secret to you. Everyone knows her based on her outfits, her antics and her shock tactics.
Katy is known for her body of work even if they can't immediately name her number 1's, they know she got them. They know she's a hit maker.
Meat dress vs Hits
I know which one will be remembered.
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But gaga has the image, the artistry, the memorable performances and still also the hits.
Katy has "just" the hits.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
Prism is a great album that helped bring back the return of true pop music.
It was all about EDM and then Roar came out which is a classic pop tune. The business then switched from EDM - POP
Katy was instrumental in that change and was great to see her grow as an artist.
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what
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bang Up
"It has nothing to do with commercial success."
"Hits are what's remembered."
How does that make sense? This logic can be applied to Cyndi vs. Madonna. Cyndi had the hits, Madonna had the image and controversy. While both are remembered, Madonna came out on top.
Gaga has sold more.
Gaga has won more.
Gaga has grossed more.
She didn't do all that 'cause of some damn outfit. Try again.
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It has nothing to do with commercial success in terms of gaga's image. It overpowers any commercial success she has had. That's what I meant.
I know you're keen to talk about Madonna so thank you for opening that window. Madonna and gaga suffer from the same issue - Their image is so strong people forget their artistry. Madonna escapes this problem because she paved the path, she changed the industry, she changed the scope of music unfortunately due to no fault of gaga's she doesn't have that, so her image will of course supersede any commercial success. I hope you don't disagree with that. The GP know gaga because she's crazy and zany and eccentric.
People remember Katy's hits because she doesn't focus on being the artiste. i feel like her music will be remembered more, due to that.
Gaga will be remembered for other things.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bang Up
"It has nothing to do with commercial success."
"Hits are what's remembered."
How does that make sense? This logic can be applied to Cyndi vs. Madonna. Cyndi had the hits, Madonna had the image and controversy. While both are remembered, Madonna came out on top.
Gaga has sold more.
Gaga has won more.
Gaga has grossed more.
She didn't do all that 'cause of some damn outfit. Try again.
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#draggedT
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Gaga's album sales: nearing 30,000,000
Katy's album sales: just passed 10,000,000
How can someone be known for their body of work when people aren't buying their body of work, rather just their singles? Are you saying Katy's singles = Katy's body of work? Are you saying Katy is a singles artist?
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I didn't know Katy brought Pop back into the charts, wow.
Her influence I guess.
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Originally posted by Scheiße.
We already had Brave tho
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You did! and thanks to roar it shot up the HOT 1O0 chart. Proving my point that roar hailed the return of true pop!
thanks for brining that up!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bang Up
Gaga's album sales: nearing 30,000,000
Katy's album sales: just passed 10,000,000
How can someone be known for their body of work when people aren't buying their body of work, rather just their singles? Are you saying Katy's singles = Katy's body of work? Are you saying Katy is a singles artist?
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Gather sis, GATHERRRRR!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bang Up
Gaga's album sales: nearing 30,000,000
Katy's album sales: just passed 10,000,000
How can someone be known for their body of work when people aren't buying their body of work, rather just their singles? Are you saying Katy's singles = Katy's body of work? Are you saying Katy is a singles artist?
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I don't understand why this is a difficult concept.
Gaga has sold more for sure, but her image overshadows that. Is that such an unreasonable statement?
Katy doesn't focus on the artiste.
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
It has nothing to do with commercial success in terms of gaga's image. It overpowers any commercial success she has had. That's what I meant.
I know you're keen to talk about Madonna so thank you for opening that window. Madonna and gaga suffer from the same issue - Their image is so strong people forget their artistry. Madonna escapes this problem because she paved the path, she changed the industry, she changed the scope of music unfortunately due to no fault of gaga's she doesn't have that, so her image will of course supersede any commercial success. I hope you don't disagree with that. The GP know gaga because she's crazy and zany and eccentric.
People remember Katy's hits because she doesn't focus on being the artiste. i feel like her music will be remembered more, due to that.
Gaga will be remembered for other things.
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That doesn't make sense
Gaga sold more than Katy
Gaga have 5 GRAMMYs, Katy have 0 GRAMMYs
are you saying people gave Gaga GRAMMYs based on her crazy outfits?
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