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Discussion: Teacher taught powerful lesson about privilege
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The problem is why privileged people would want to get rid of advantages of having easier life. Wouldnt unpriviliged people behave in the same way if they were not the opressed ones ?
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Life isn't fair, that's the cold hard truth. Privilege comes in many forms, but the truth is that if you feel underprivileged, the best thing to do is to change that around by trying your hardest to accomplish what you want to do and not let any one let you down. It sucks that there are social injustices in the world, but that will never go away. But by changing how you let these injustices affect you and by neutralizing them, I think you can achieve what you want with enough dedication and work. This mentality will be dependent on yourself and not the general public whom will always have stupid opinions.
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"Privilege" has to be the most obnoxious word ever.
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
Its not a theory though
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It is, I could have done the same thing putting a bin in front of each desk to prove everybody has the same chance to succeed and it wouldn't have made less sense than this one. You think it's not a theory because you firmly believe it, but something that is debatable isn't a fact, it's an opinion.
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Originally posted by TheRoofInhabitant
It is, I could have done the same thing putting a bin in front of each desk to prove everybody has the same chance to succeed and it wouldn't have made less sense than this one. You think it's not a theory because you firmly believe it, but something that is debatable isn't a fact, it's an opinion.
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This wouldn't be an accurate reflection of what happens in real life. We both know everyone does not have an equal chance to make it into the middle class. Some people are born into it, others have to work harder against obstacles working against them.
May I ask what your background is, exactly? I don't want to make assumptions.
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Originally posted by Antonini
This wouldn't be an accurate reflection of what happens in real life. We both know everyone does not have an equal chance to make it into the middle class. Some people are born into it, others have to work harder against obstacles working against them.
May I ask what your background is, exactly? I don't want to make assumptions.
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I talked about my family and my view on the world in this thread a few pages ago
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I'm not saying everyone has an equal chance, I'm just saying whatever obstacles you are faced with you have to overcome it in someway. I wouldn't trust the general public to change their opinions and in that way, you yourself become a stronger person.
The ability to adapt and compromise is a skill that will help you a lot in life. Be the change you want to see in the world. There are gross injustices in this world and sometimes you can't change everyone's prejudices whatever they may be. As long as you're fighting for your rights and against your obstacles, I support you. But if you just want to sit down and complain about being mistreated (not only by race, but by weight, appearance, sexuality, size etc) and you're not doing anything actively to change, then nothing will ever be done.
I have a friend who's extremely lazy, but "very smart if he tries". He constantly complains about how his grades are terribly because "professors don't test on important things" yet he never puts in any effort to study and want people to recognize his intelligence without actually putting in effort. That's someone who cannot adapt and thinks the world owes him something. It doesn't.
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Originally posted by jonasha
I'm not saying everyone has an equal chance, I'm just saying whatever obstacles you are faced with you have to overcome it in someway. I wouldn't trust the general public to change their opinions and in that way, you yourself become a stronger person.
The ability to adapt and compromise is a skill that will help you a lot in life. Be the change you want to see in the world. There are gross injustices in this world and sometimes you can't change everyone's prejudices whatever they may be. As long as you're fighting for your rights and against your obstacles, I support you. But if you just want to sit down and complain about being mistreated (not only by race, but by weight, appearance, sexuality, size etc) and you're not doing anything actively to change, then nothing will ever be done.
I have a friend who's extremely lazy, but "very smart if he tries". He constantly complains about how his grades are terribly because "professors don't test on important things" yet he never puts in any effort to study and want people to recognize his intelligence without actually putting in effort. That's someone who cannot adapt and thinks the world owes him something. It doesn't.
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I agree with all of this
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A great exercise but things are not that simple. At least the main idea was communicated.
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Originally posted by TheRoofInhabitant
It is, I could have done the same thing putting a bin in front of each desk to prove everybody has the same chance to succeed and it wouldn't have made less sense than this one. You think it's not a theory because you firmly believe it, but something that is debatable isn't a fact, it's an opinion.
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I'm talking beyond this simple example. And believing everyone has the same opportunity is overly idealistic. It isn't a theory, its backed by many studies exemplifying the social inequalities seen through out the US. Are you saying these studies are false when people have whole careers studying social inequalities? Its not as made up as you think it is
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
I'm talking beyond this simple example. And believing everyone has the same opportunity is overly idealistic. It isn't a theory, its backed by many studies exemplifying the social inequalities seen through out the US. Are you saying these studies are false when people have whole careers studying social inequalities? Its not as made up as you think it is
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I would never discredit studies, I'm just saying that this is not the bible, this is a theory (which shouldn't be considered a bad thing, would you discredit Darwin's Theory of Evolution or Einstein's Theory of Relativity?), and a philosophy whose effects I don't like. Stop talking about it as if it was something you can't contest and respect our opinions. Besides neither me nor you nor anybody in this thread has a clue what the great powers are up to and how they're trying to mould society.
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Originally posted by TheRoofInhabitant
I would never discredit studies, I'm just saying that this is not the bible, this is a theory (which shouldn't be considered a bad thing, would you discredit Darwin's Theory of Evolution or Einstein's Theory of Relativity?), and a philosophy whose effects I don't like. Stop talking about it as if it was something you can't contest and respect our opinions. Besides neither me nor you nor anybody in this thread has a clue what the great powers are up to and how they're trying to mould society.
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When have we suddenly been talking about scientific theories . The way you are calling it a theory is trying to drag it as if we should not trust it to be true, By going off your attitude the whole time I would be questioning the validity of Evolution and Gravity . And just because you don't like it doesn't invalidate the importance of acknowledging social inequalities and privileges.
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So does after so many recent events for the nay sayers does White Privilege still not exist?
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People are so hypocritical about privilege. They swear that everyone just has to "work hard" to make it, but pay thousands to send their kids to private school b/c they know they'll have an advantage that way.
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
People are so hypocritical about privilege. They swear that everyone just has to "work hard" to make it, but pay thousands to send their kids to private school b/c they know they'll have an advantage that way.
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RIGHT? This is spot on In b4 people saying this isn't privilege or telling people to get up shut up and work or some **** like that
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This brought me to tears
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