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Poll: Should trans-teen be able to use girl's lockerroom?
View Poll Results: I think that
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Yes, she identifies as a girl
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No, she still has a penis and should use the uni-sex bathroom
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Member Since: 3/8/2011
Posts: 3,432
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Originally posted by Chax
Nope, use a uni-sex bathroom. Unless you have the genitalia, it will just open up a can of worms. Before you know it there will be sick and twisted people who will easily be able to take advantage. Where do you draw the line?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 26,845
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Originally posted by Javan
Why? Do gays need their own bathroom too now?
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I think you misunderstood me. No of course not. But I was out in high school and boys would always give me weird looks in the bathroom. I'm saying she has it a lot worse than me, and I can't imagine how she feels.
I always avoided bathrooms in HS anyway.
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Member Since: 1/6/2014
Posts: 19,122
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Just use the unisex bathroom
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 11,808
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Originally posted by Gui Blackout
Gay Men are far more persecuted than Trans people around world and throughout history, please
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are you ill?
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
Posts: 23,572
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There should men, women, and gender neutral bathrooms.
I personally don't care if a trans man used the men's bathroom. I would be more bothered if a trans woman, still with her male bits, used the men's bathroom.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
Posts: 27,495
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Originally posted by Latch
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You should know by now ...
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Originally posted by wesleywalrus
I think you misunderstood me. No of course not. But I was out in high school and boys would always give me weird looks in the bathroom. I'm saying she has it a lot worse than me, and I can't imagine how she feels.
I always avoided bathrooms in HS anyway.
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Maybe they were cruising.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 11,808
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Originally posted by Vertigo Stick
There should men, women, and gender neutral bathrooms.
I personally don't care if a trans man used the men's bathroom. I would be more bothered if a trans woman, still with her male bits, used the men's bathroom.
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a lot of people share this sad mentality
this is why this conversation needs to be had
people have some very unhealthy attitudes toward gender,
and while it isn't their own fault, it's problematic nonetheless
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Member Since: 3/25/2011
Posts: 10,337
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There needs to be case-by-case examination to ensure abuse isn't happening, but yes, generally I do believe trans people should be able to use the bathroom of their identified gender despite their genitalia. When people emphasize that a trans woman has a penis, there is a weird undertone to it. Almost as if their penis must inherently be a weapon but ultimately that trans woman is just a person who wants to pee without feeling like an outcast.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
Posts: 53,769
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Yes.
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Originally posted by jacklovesyou1
I know this is going to be messy but nope
The reason I think is because dirty men will end up putting on a wig to so they can be "accepted" to go into a girls bathroom, which is a shame. Maybe there's ways around it.. But if the person identify's as a girl then they should be allowed into the bathroom
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This is legitimately not a thing.
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Member Since: 5/2/2012
Posts: 15,418
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With the locker room thing I suppose it's trickier, I can get as a female not being comfortable seeing dick and balls in passing in a communal shower; however, I can't remember an occasion in school where I was ever stripping completely naked in the girls' locker room just for gym. We used to have to dress out, but we had like 5-10 minutes before and after gym to change in and out of our gym clothes after/before the bell rang. Is she playing sports or doing an activity where they shower? If so the school may want to consider making some accommodations like vinyl privacy curtains if they're frequently going to be completely nude, but I really don't see an issue if they're just changing down to bra/panties.
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
Posts: 23,572
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Originally posted by Latch
a lot of people share this sad mentality
this is why this conversation needs to be had
people have some very unhealthy attitudes toward gender,
and while it isn't their own fault, it's problematic nonetheless
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I meant I would be bothered if a trans woman were forced to use the men's bathroom because of what's between her legs. If people said to her 'you can't use the women's bathroom because you have a penis.' I wouldn't want that. Cis or trans [women], women should use the women's bathroom - or gender neutral/unisex.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
Posts: 53,769
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Originally posted by Haburo
the bolded is not actually happening to the girl in the article
not sure if this was apparent to you/some others in here
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Way to go! You've proven that you can focus on one small detail that was not the point of the post. I'd give you a cookie, but I've locked them all in the half-assed and incomplete solution that this girl's school calls the gender-neutral bathroom.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
Posts: 9,438
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No at all
Perverts will use this as an excuse, this is one of those problems that doesn't have a clear solution
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
Posts: 5,333
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If a man wanted to go into the women's toilet to take advantage of the women inside, they would do it without having to put on a wig and dress so I don't really see how that argument really works.
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
Posts: 9,758
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Originally posted by Retro
Way to go! You've proven that you can focus on one small detail that was not the point of the post. I'd give you a cookie, but I've locked them all in the half-assed and incomplete solution that this girl's school calls the gender-neutral bathroom.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 11,808
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Originally posted by Kane
If a man wanted to go into the women's toilet to take advantage of the women inside, they would do it without having to put on a wig and dress so I don't really see how that argument really works.
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
Posts: 1,077
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Originally posted by Chax
There's ten pages explaining. Try reading them.
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Every "explanation" was a hypothetical scenario in which no one provided any proof or statistics for even after being asked OR transphobic nonsense
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
Posts: 3,339
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Okay this is kind of off-topic but I was in San Francisco a few weeks ago, and I was at a coffee shop with my friend and we both needed to use the bathroom and there was only 1 "unisex" bathroom, so we assumed it was the type where there's just one toilet and sink..... anyway, we both went in and there was a sign in it and it said like "San Francisco is trying out this new method of bathroom to make it easier for everyone"... and it was like a multiple stall bathroom, and when I was taking a dump, there was a woman in the stall next to me.. I don't know how I feel about that. I don't want to use the same bathroom as a girl, and I get that we're trying to make it easier for the LGBT community but where do we draw the line? I just feel like that's kind of alienating the majority... like hypothetically, a 50 year old perv man could go into the same bathroom as a 12 year old girl... I'm totally all for LGBT rights but I don't think that's the right solution... what do you all think?
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Member Since: 9/2/2012
Posts: 7,210
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Originally posted by Retro
Way to go! You've proven that you can focus on one small detail that was not the point of the post. I'd give you a cookie, but I've locked them all in the half-assed and incomplete solution that this girl's school calls the gender-neutral bathroom.
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Originally posted by Kane
If a man wanted to go into the women's toilet to take advantage of the women inside, they would do it without having to put on a wig and dress so I don't really see how that argument really works.
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Came a little late to this thread but basically all of this
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 13,381
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Yes, she's a girl she should be allowed to use the girls bathroom and locker rooms.
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