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Music News: Record industry considering a global release date
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I think release day should happen on Mondays at 12am EDT across the globe. I'm not sure why record companies are bending to the will of smaller market players like Australia instead of just doing this on their own accord.
It makes no sense to go through all of this trouble if time isn't going to be an issue. I'd release it digitally first. Then I'd release a physical product later. If the retailers don't want to carry the product. That's on them. Nobody is going to go to walmart in the middle of the night when they can buy the songs they need and roll over and go back to sleep.
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Originally posted by DG1
BEYONCÉ didn't have any impact on the industry tho...  |
it has not happened yet so...NO 
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I'm surprised it actually took them this long to consider this idea.
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Originally posted by collin
I highly doubt albums & singles will ever go out for good. I guess it COULD happen, but I just don't think that the entirety of the planet is all gonna move to Spotify or some other streaming service. Physical and digital ownership still has a lot of appeal and will doubtfully fall out for good.
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They said this about physical singles.
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Originally posted by iHype.
LOL.
Literally the only people who would do that is a few thousand stans. Millions of people aren't gonna RUSH to download Katy's new single 3 days earlier instead of streaming.
This proves my point, changing to a global release date is a waste of time and money. Sales will be done, and piracy will have a drop in an ocean sized effect on Streaming's $$.
The efforts to change and enforce it would cost more time and money then letting 10,000 Katy Perry stans use a site to download her single 2 days early while 100 million people listen to it through Streaming.
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So you're assuming that everyone else will be all like, "Oh, Katy has a new song out? I'll wait a week until it's out on my Spotify app and forget about it until then!"
Sounds awfully strange that they don't already do that with artists and, despite knowing it'll be on streaming later, download it illegally... anyway... oh. 
And kind of mess at your own unsupported conjecture proving your own point.
The "effort" to change and enforce it might amount to as much as "Hey everyone, release this set of shipments three days earlier than usual". Contrary to what you might believe, reworking the industry by a couple days isn't a big shift - especially with the physical market being phased out.
By the way, those 100 million people wouldn't be listening to it on streaming at that time, since it wouldn't be legally released yet; they might want it anyway and end up illegally downloading, though! 
But I mean, if you think piracy and the desire for free music will start to all but vanish with streaming's takeover, do you sis! The record companies seem to universally disagree if the vast majority support this move while knowing very well what direction the industry will take with respect to streaming. Not to mention other industry parties like Billboard.
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Originally posted by ianBK4
Are y'all blind or something?  |
I didn't care about the subject, I just found it funny 
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Member Since: 4/12/2012
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Originally posted by suneclipse121
That's a great idea everyone will hear the music at the same time.
No leaks.
They should also release the physical albums a week later.
Bey ha impact.
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A record being released isn't really a leak though. There will still be leaks obviously, but all countries will just simply get albums released on the same day instead of spread out releases.
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Originally posted by 4AM.
So you're assuming that everyone else will be all like, "Oh, Katy has a new song out? I'll wait a week until it's out on my Spotify app and forget about it until then!"
Sounds awfully strange that they don't already do that with artists and, despite knowing it'll be on streaming later, download it illegally... anyway... oh.
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Because the GP knows a song immediately as it leaks?
As said, ONLY stans do. General public is not aware of a song until after it has exploded on radio / music videos / promotion.
All 3 of those do not occur until AFTER a song is released legally. Therefore the GP will not be illegally downloading something they aren't aware about yet, isn't that scientifically correct?
Those 100 million people as you said, will listen to it ONCE it's released.  So therefore they won't be illegal downloading.
And for the 3rd time, that would mean, only a few thousand stans will be the ones illegally downloading. Which is BARELY BARELY a dent since them not streaming each is less than a 50cent loss each at most based on how much pay there is per stream.
They'll lose what -- 10 cents for Abbie and George not Streaming and downloading? 500,000 people aren't gonna be worried about downloading her song early. Not even 100,000.
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Bey and her endless impact. 
It's about time they adapt to the changes. The old system didn't stand a chance against piracy.
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If the music isn't good sales won't be helped but
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That's not really correct, though! New releases from major artists, when they leak, do in fact make the rounds pretty quickly through word-of-mouth means. You're assuming people only ever hear about the songs the moment they release, and that's simply not true. Especially with bigger artists, many people are aware of an impending release even weeks in advance and end up grabbing the song if they know it's already out there. Thanks to leaks being exaggerated in severity by the media, a LOT of people actually hear about them when they happen. I don't really get where you're getting the notion that everyone is content to sit and wait, especially in demand-fueled markets like the US and Japan where album sales (for example, though this applies to most media consumption) peak first week.
Do you actually know how big piracy still is? On just one site, the top twenty artists total were illegally downloaded over 64 million times in 2013 - and that site's not even the biggest source of piracy! Many estimates place piracy as constituting well over 90% of digital media consumption, in the present world, even in the face of massive streaming leaps. It's not something that's going away just because of the convenience of streaming, and the numbers clearly show that.
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Originally posted by 4AM.
That's not really correct, though! New releases from major artists, when they leak, do in fact make the rounds pretty quickly through word-of-mouth means. You're assuming people only ever hear about the songs the moment they release, and that's simply not true. Especially with bigger artists, many people are aware of an impending release even weeks in advance and end up grabbing the song if they know it's already out there. Thanks to leaks being exaggerated in severity by the media, a LOT of people actually hear about them when they happen.
Do you actually know how big piracy still is? On just one site, the top twenty artists total were illegally downloaded over 64 million times in 2013 - and that site's not even the biggest source of piracy! Many estimates place piracy as constituting well over 90% of digital media consumption, in the present world, even in the face of massive streaming leaps. It's not something that's going away just because of the convenience of streaming, and the numbers clearly show that.
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64 million divided by 20 = 3.2 million per artist.
10 songs on an album divided by their 3.2 million downloads = 320,000 per song illegal.
Say first week sales are 1/5 their total sales = 64,000 illegal downloads first week.
Do you know how little 64,000 is converted to Streaming?  Literally you need to stream a song like 200 times to equal $1. If an average person listened to the song say 20 times, that comes down to 20cents.
20cents x 64,000 people = $12,800 lost.
Now how exactly will that $12k be some serious threat for Katy Perry or Rihanna? Please explain.
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Where in the article was Beyoncé mentioned?
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Originally posted by Monkey_Juice
it has not happened yet so...NO |
Really? The fact they are even discussing this in the context of what Beyonce has done says that she did have an impact.
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I approve that. 100%
I give up on purchasing a lot of music because I cant imediately download it off my Brazilian itunes store. Like Pixie Lott album. I bought the physical but I was willing to buy the digital aswell. But since it came out on FRIDAY in Ireland and the aac files were already out there I was like WHY would I wait till monday?
Or again, maybe They should just do what queen Tamar Braxton-Herbert did:
Release the album on its MAIN MARKET first, in her case, it was the USA. So the release was on Tuesday in the USA and only a day later it came out everywhere. That would do the deal.
All acts got their MAIN base, so as long as the album drops FIRST in their base, that should deal
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I'm sorry, did you miss the words "on one site" and "not the even the biggest?"
You shouldn't cherry pick tiny parts that you perceive to be vulnerabilities in an argument.
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Originally posted by Rei
Where in the article was Beyoncé mentioned?
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You have to view it on the PC, not mobile but it's an opening bolded sentence
Retro has addressed it already and stated that it is there and a mod re-edited the OP
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Originally posted by Rei
Where in the article was Beyoncé mentioned?
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The very first line, which does not show up on mobile formats.
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Originally posted by 4AM.
I'm sorry, did you miss the words "on one site" and "not the even the biggest?"
You shouldn't cherry pick tiny parts that you perceive to be vulnerabilities in an argument.
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Gimme receipts of piracy as whole then and we can work out the losses! 
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