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Celeb News: 'Free Kesha Luke' big plans in 2014
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Originally posted by crossbonezolo
when was this article released? It's unlikely he's been not hearing from her since he produced three remixes of Crazy Kids and Timber during the last months.
I mean, if they're really not in good terms anymore I'm sure he would've found someone else for Timber's hook.
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He actually wanted Rihanna but she refused and Ke$ha was the only other option. 
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Originally posted by KatyMyLady
Lol at that theory. Fun fact katy cowrote american girl.
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That theory is so confusion but I like the Katy collab part, I support this petition because she wants us to fight for her freedom.
Ke$ha HERSELF has said that she wants us to keep the petition alive so I'll support it, it's not just her mom it's her whole family AND HERSELF. Don't you remember when she DMed me about it?!
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Originally posted by $ebert
That theory is so confusion but I like the Katy collab part, I support this petition because she wants us to fight for her freedom.
Ke$ha HERSELF has said that she wants us to keep the petition alive so I'll support it, it's not just her mom it's her whole family AND HERSELF. Don't you remember when she DMed me about it?!
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Is there any chance you can repost that here? Do you still have it? 
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 at everyone quoting my post.
To those who don't understand the point of it all, either you need to reread the post or you simply aren't capable of understanding. With no risk comes no gain. Ke$ha wanted to take a risk with her next album, 2014 is the year that everything will become clear.
And to those pointing out credits on songs and stuff, are you serious? The whole idea was so that people didn't realise what was going on. They weren't just going to credit Ke$ha to American Girl. It's called ghost writing / producing.
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He actually wanted Rihanna but she refused and Ke$ha was the only other option. |
OMG you actually believed that. 
Good one Pitbull.
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Originally posted by Terre$uxx
I always though it was weird Luke 'produced' her show...
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he didn't produce her show, he just slapped his name on it for money purposes lol
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Originally posted by austinsuxx
he didn't produce her show, he just slapped his name on it for money purposes lol
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This, obviously. If he had any hands-on approach there, I doubt Machine Gun Love would have gotten as much exposure as it is getting, with the HQ Youtube upload of the performance and everything. 
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Aw, thanks. I remember that thread, I only lurked but it gave me excitement. Quite. 
But how does this confirm that she truly supports the petition? I definitely know she doesn't oppose it, but do we know if she thinks it's a good idea and whether or not she would own up to it if somebody addressed her about it?
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I mean if someone "official" asked her about it, in an interview or something. Because that time she addressed it in the Rolling Stone was too vague to tell, even though that was probably her intention and she won't make it any clearer than this.
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Originally posted by cloudinthesky
This, so much. I think Animals are blowing this out of proportion. I don't think Ke$ha really wants to be "set free" from Luke. She probably just wants to have more creative freedom. Luke is responsible for making her a superstar, after all. She wouldn't be where she's at right now if it weren't for him and they actually do work quite well together. I think we need to tread lightly and be very careful with this whole thing because it could make things much harder for her in the end. |
It could make things harder because now we have Ke$ha fans acting like her pop career isn't the type of artist she is when in fact its exactly the type of music she makes. So when she comes out with a pop record, which obviously she will, everyones going to be like "oh this isn't really her thats wack". Shes a pop artist guys, shes not a literal rock star. And if she actually decided to make a straight up alt. album most of the people here wouldn't be down for it guaranteed.
THEN AGAIN, all of her fans and regular people seem to be down for Timber acting like its better than what shes released recently (even though its just some generic sounding Pitbull track) so idk. I guess that negates my previous sentiment, maybe things won't be harder for her in the end if Timber is up to par for people.
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Originally posted by !Blue!
She is a great songwriter, a good singer and performer. Overall a good artiist. She might not be the epitome of Mega talent but she is far from just being acceptable
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I say all of this as a fan, as opposed to most of her peers (Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj, etc) theres actually a dose of authenticity to Ke$ha which makes her more promising and less dull. Her songwriting skills are just good enough for pop music, shes an okay performer, and when she actually sings sometimes shes okay and sometimes shes grating. I feel like people get really carried away with giving her the credit they think she deserves. I mean she deserves a little more credit than people give her but at the same time its not like shes significantly above average when it comes to being a pop star. She is better than Warrior for sure and I think judging by a lot of her unreleased tracks she could make some cool music that isn't necessarily for everyone HOWEVER shes far from being like top tier so to speak.
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I'm genuinely worried for Ke$ha in 2014. I know this sounds negative, but I have a feeling her next album is just going to be a series of delays and disappointment.
The thing is, Luke will keep Ke$ha signed as he still makes money off her. The Warrior era got off to a good start with Die Young, but it all went downhill. He knows he could probably get another couple of DY sized hits out of K$.
Of course, it would be amazing if Ke$ha could have creative control. LITL and Past Lives are amazing, as are all these unreleased tracks we're hearing ((MGL). And I'm still so pressed we never got Control My Heart. Problem is though, all the "original" Warrior tracks are very niche and not for pop radio, which is difficult as Ke$ha has been marketed as a pop artist and played on pop radio. I feel if she did get dropped by Luke and put under a more independent/indie label, she would fade. Of course, quality is better than popularity IMO... but it would be sad to see a star like her fade into obscurity.
Luke will probably see how her next album goes. If it's another Warrior flop I reckon he'll let her go. It's sad, because Warrior showed some really promising tracks (Last Goodbye, Past Lives, Supernatural, Thinking Of You), but some of it was so generic (C'mon, Crazy Kids). I really hope her next album isn't full of electro pop YOLO anthems, she's got so much more depth than that.
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Honestly, I feel that Luke will end up giving Ke$ha more control in the end. Now that the Warrior era is over he should now see that the songs he was making as singles are not working for Ke$ha because her music was becoming dated. I think he decided to put Ke$ha on Timber to give her a "new start" because that song was an inevitable smash. Now that its the biggest song in the world, Ke$ha now has a ton of exposure and everyone is hearing her around the world. Maybe in 2014 Ke$ha will be able to put a very different type of lead single out that will capture attention of the GP and she will show a different side to her like some of the songs on Warrior (LITL, LG, etc.). It seems pretty obvious to go this route as songs like those end up selling albums while party songs don't.
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Originally posted by $oldier
Are you guys really this blind? Isn't it obvious what's going on by now? Okay, I'll explain it to you all in depth,
Ke$ha has been planning this since at least the Animal era. Obviously after such a successful era Ke$ha new that it would be difficult to top, and she could just as easily be another one of those artists that flop into irrelevancy after their second album. But Ke$ha is a smart girl, she has has an IQ of 140 after all, so she knew just what to do. She hatched a plan. But she couldn't do it alone, she needed others within the music industry to help.
The first step was the Warrior album, where she ingeniously decided to parody the typical "sophomore slump". She didn't want to make it obvious though, so she knew that she had to release a catchy lead single that would make it appear as if everything was normal and that Ke$ha was back. The Sandy Hook tragedy caught them by surprise, and was obviously a terrible tragedy. But instead of abandoning the idea, Ke$ha kept to her original plan and faked that she didn't even write the song and that she was forced to sing the lyrics, sparking the first noticeable controversy between her and her producer Dr. Luke.
They deliberately put off releasing a second single until the new year in hopes of the album losing momentum. However, as well as releasing it in one of the busiest weeks, it still wasn't enough - people wanted Ke$ha. So they had to cut a deal with iTunes and make sure that no digital copies would count towards first week sales. Fortunately the album sold dismally with 85,000 copies first week (physical copies alone, with minimal promotion, in a busy period). Just as Ke$ha had planned.
The next step was to release C'Mon as the second single, interestingly enough cowritten by Bonnie McKee. This may seem irrelevant at the moment, but I'll get to that later. The song was written to sound like a Ke$ha song, but they made it deliberately lacklustre and made sure it brought nothing new to the table. The song "underperformed", and this was the first sign of Ke$ha's so called "decline". Warrior obviously had better songs, as Ke$ha is too much of a genuine artist to put out an album full or garbage, and she knew that she needed to put out a rather strong body of work for her plan not to be discovered. The critics obviously didn't see this, giving Warrior a 71/100. Imagine what it would have received if she's tried to make it perfect.
Anyway, the next part of the plan was to release Crazy Kids, featuring will.i.am. Will decided to help Ke$ha out and contribute a terrible verse to her song, making his lyrics so incredibly terrible that there was no way that the song could become a hit. Although they tried their hardest, Ke$ha's power was too strong and it still managed to sneak its way into the Top 40. All was not lost though, Katy Perry gave her a hint to use desperation to get an even more negative reception, further remixing the song with close friends and labelmates Pitbull and Juicy J.
Supernatural and Last Goodbye were not released as singles as they were obviously some of the better options on Warrior, and not only would it make people frustrated that they didn't get released, but those who didn't know about them never would. It was a win/win.
After the Warrior era turned out rather poorly as Ke$ha planned, it was time for the next major phase: plant Bonnie McKee back onto the music scene. Although uncredited on the song, Dr. Luke and Ke$ha actually helped Bonnie write American Girl. It was designed to sound like a Ke$ha track. After the song's release, it didn't blow up like it was intended to, but that wasn't a problem for Ke$ha. She had other ways. The main point was to get Bonnie's name out there as an artist and to show that she was Dr. Luke's new "it" girl. Ke$ha and Dr. Luke were no longer as close as they were and Bonnie had essentially taken her place. The first suggestion that Ke$ha was over.
Meanwhile Ke$ha was working with Dr. Luke and her mother on setting up a "petition" to free Ke$ha from Dr. Luke. This would secure the public's perception that they were not on good terms. The petition was a rather large success, striking up much controversy and getting thousands of signatures. Ke$ha would leak old demos and such to give the illusion that it was some kind of insider or fan behind it.
My Crazy Beautiful Life, Ke$ha's reality show, play another part in this. The idea behind this was to give people a look at the "real Ke$ha" and to show how hardworking she really is behind the scenes. Everyone probably knows about Machine Gun Love, the track that Dr. Luke "hated" and "refused" to put on Warrior, but that track was actually cowritten by Luke (again, uncredited) and was part of the plan to further make their feud public knowledge. Pretty genius, actually, and the perfect example of stopping creative control.
If you hadn't guessed already, Lip$ha was all part of the plan as well. It doesn't exist. Wayne Coyne and Dr. Luke were in on it as well and made it apparent that this so called "Lip$ha" album would see release, but now it won't be because of Luke. Also, a track that Ke$ha recorded with The Flaming Lips is now allowed to be created to Ke$ha, again Luke it to blame for this. They don't even have to try by this point, people automatically start to point the finger at Luke.
I've already gone on long enough, but you get the picture. The so called divide between Dr. Luke and Ke$ha is all a ruse. They're laughing right now because their plan has worked. They've won this round.
Now it's time for the next ultimate phase, the comeback of Ke$ha. Pitbull (who we knew was in on it with the Crazy Kids remix scandal) offered to feature Ke$ha on his next single and Dr. Luke produced it, and they gave it everything to make sure that it'd do well. Obviously since it was Ke$ha actually trying it would become a WW smash hit, topping the charts in several countries.
This is just a taste of the impending slayage of what is to come. Ke$ha's lead single will be coming next year... and while I can't reveal all of the details, lets just say that Ke$ha and Dr. Luke, as well as Pebe and Bonnie McKee and Katy Perry and everyone else who was in on the ruse will be in the video. And the song has a theme about survival and coming back from the brink of extinction...
You were all so quick to count Ke$ha out, when you've really just been played all along.
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but Luke produced two of the songs you just listed
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luke only did last goodbye
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Originally posted by $oldier
Are you guys really this blind? Isn't it obvious what's going on by now? Okay, I'll explain it to you all in depth,
Ke$ha has been planning this since at least the Animal era. Obviously after such a successful era Ke$ha new that it would be difficult to top, and she could just as easily be another one of those artists that flop into irrelevancy after their second album. But Ke$ha is a smart girl, she has has an IQ of 140 after all, so she knew just what to do. She hatched a plan. But she couldn't do it alone, she needed others within the music industry to help.
The first step was the Warrior album, where she ingeniously decided to parody the typical "sophomore slump". She didn't want to make it obvious though, so she knew that she had to release a catchy lead single that would make it appear as if everything was normal and that Ke$ha was back. The Sandy Hook tragedy caught them by surprise, and was obviously a terrible tragedy. But instead of abandoning the idea, Ke$ha kept to her original plan and faked that she didn't even write the song and that she was forced to sing the lyrics, sparking the first noticeable controversy between her and her producer Dr. Luke.
They deliberately put off releasing a second single until the new year in hopes of the album losing momentum. However, as well as releasing it in one of the busiest weeks, it still wasn't enough - people wanted Ke$ha. So they had to cut a deal with iTunes and make sure that no digital copies would count towards first week sales. Fortunately the album sold dismally with 85,000 copies first week (physical copies alone, with minimal promotion, in a busy period). Just as Ke$ha had planned.
The next step was to release C'Mon as the second single, interestingly enough cowritten by Bonnie McKee. This may seem irrelevant at the moment, but I'll get to that later. The song was written to sound like a Ke$ha song, but they made it deliberately lacklustre and made sure it brought nothing new to the table. The song "underperformed", and this was the first sign of Ke$ha's so called "decline". Warrior obviously had better songs, as Ke$ha is too much of a genuine artist to put out an album full or garbage, and she knew that she needed to put out a rather strong body of work for her plan not to be discovered. The critics obviously didn't see this, giving Warrior a 71/100. Imagine what it would have received if she's tried to make it perfect.
Anyway, the next part of the plan was to release Crazy Kids, featuring will.i.am. Will decided to help Ke$ha out and contribute a terrible verse to her song, making his lyrics so incredibly terrible that there was no way that the song could become a hit. Although they tried their hardest, Ke$ha's power was too strong and it still managed to sneak its way into the Top 40. All was not lost though, Katy Perry gave her a hint to use desperation to get an even more negative reception, further remixing the song with close friends and labelmates Pitbull and Juicy J.
Supernatural and Last Goodbye were not released as singles as they were obviously some of the better options on Warrior, and not only would it make people frustrated that they didn't get released, but those who didn't know about them never would. It was a win/win.
After the Warrior era turned out rather poorly as Ke$ha planned, it was time for the next major phase: plant Bonnie McKee back onto the music scene. Although uncredited on the song, Dr. Luke and Ke$ha actually helped Bonnie write American Girl. It was designed to sound like a Ke$ha track. After the song's release, it didn't blow up like it was intended to, but that wasn't a problem for Ke$ha. She had other ways. The main point was to get Bonnie's name out there as an artist and to show that she was Dr. Luke's new "it" girl. Ke$ha and Dr. Luke were no longer as close as they were and Bonnie had essentially taken her place. The first suggestion that Ke$ha was over.
Meanwhile Ke$ha was working with Dr. Luke and her mother on setting up a "petition" to free Ke$ha from Dr. Luke. This would secure the public's perception that they were not on good terms. The petition was a rather large success, striking up much controversy and getting thousands of signatures. Ke$ha would leak old demos and such to give the illusion that it was some kind of insider or fan behind it.
My Crazy Beautiful Life, Ke$ha's reality show, play another part in this. The idea behind this was to give people a look at the "real Ke$ha" and to show how hardworking she really is behind the scenes. Everyone probably knows about Machine Gun Love, the track that Dr. Luke "hated" and "refused" to put on Warrior, but that track was actually cowritten by Luke (again, uncredited) and was part of the plan to further make their feud public knowledge. Pretty genius, actually, and the perfect example of stopping creative control.
If you hadn't guessed already, Lip$ha was all part of the plan as well. It doesn't exist. Wayne Coyne and Dr. Luke were in on it as well and made it apparent that this so called "Lip$ha" album would see release, but now it won't be because of Luke. Also, a track that Ke$ha recorded with The Flaming Lips is now allowed to be created to Ke$ha, again Luke it to blame for this. They don't even have to try by this point, people automatically start to point the finger at Luke.
I've already gone on long enough, but you get the picture. The so called divide between Dr. Luke and Ke$ha is all a ruse. They're laughing right now because their plan has worked. They've won this round.
Now it's time for the next ultimate phase, the comeback of Ke$ha. Pitbull (who we knew was in on it with the Crazy Kids remix scandal) offered to feature Ke$ha on his next single and Dr. Luke produced it, and they gave it everything to make sure that it'd do well. Obviously since it was Ke$ha actually trying it would become a WW smash hit, topping the charts in several countries.
This is just a taste of the impending slayage of what is to come. Ke$ha's lead single will be coming next year... and while I can't reveal all of the details, lets just say that Ke$ha and Dr. Luke, as well as Pebe and Bonnie McKee and Katy Perry and everyone else who was in on the ruse will be in the video. And the song has a theme about survival and coming back from the brink of extinction...
You were all so quick to count Ke$ha out, when you've really just been played all along.
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I'm conflicted. I love the music she has been doing & Ke$ha & Dr Luke make a good team.
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Im on page 15 of the essay
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