[collin]

Originally posted by Ramcoro

It was written, recorded, and planned for release well before Gaga's preaching.

Oh, nice receipts, though.

[The Night]

Originally posted by Ramcoro

It was written, recorded, and planned for release well before Gaga's preaching.

NOOOOO sistren. Just no. lol .
After Perry's failed attempt with IKAG and URSG she had to reach .

[Kaluda]

Sure. What kind of questions is that?

[collin]

Originally posted by P!nkInside

Why would she not take production credits @ the start of her career?
and why did she take them on BTW?

Because she did not create the actual production, but the song's structure she did create.
On BTW she actually created the instrumentals alongside her team.

[givemethatpop]

Originally posted by collin

Because she did not create the actual production, but the song's structure she did create.
On BTW she actually created the instrumentals alongside her team.

Yep. My fave is so ****ing talented

[gagakyle]

Originally posted by P!nkInside

That's just one review.

But you said it wasn't received badly because of the production. Clearly to at least one person it was.

You are always on the defensive, and it's hilarious

[Ramcoro]

Originally posted by The Night

IKAG was slammed by almost everyone as a pretentious and offending semi-gay anthem
want receipts ?

U R so gay had the sane fate.

Almost everyone?

It sold between 7-8 million copies. Over 100 million YouTube views. Over 100 million AI at its peak. Went #1 in most major countries. Glee cover it last year, and Big Bang Theory had a snippet of it in one of their episodes. Both of them are very popular shows.

Saying everyone was against it is very much false.

[gagakyle]

88-27

[P!nkInside]

Originally posted by The Night

In that sense "Like a Prayer" had no musical impact due to its sound .

It only had due to the religious , bombastic video .
Still , it is considered as one of Madonna's most influential song .

The video , the lyrics and the sound are ALL part of the song .

Videos are the visualisation of the song.
Since videos are part of the music culture , then yes , we have to take music videos into account.

Anyway cant try anymore ...

Like A Prayer is like 3 decades old.
It had a lot of musical impact for its time, when it came out

[P!nkInside]

Originally posted by gagakyle

But you said it wasn't received badly because of the production. Clearly to at least one person it was.

You are always on the defensive, and it's hilarious

One review doesn't decide anything.

[The Night]

Originally posted by Ramcoro

Almost everyone?

It sold between 7-8 million copies. Over 100 million YouTube views. Over 100 million AI at its peak. Went #1 in most major countries. Glee cover it last year, and Big Bang Theory had a snippet of it in one of their episodes. Both of them are very popular shows.

Saying everyone was against it is very much false.

I was talking about critics and members of the LGBT who have spoken about its hypocricy .
also 7-8 M is NOT the population of the world..

[Twai]

Originally posted by Ramcoro

It was written, recorded, and planned for release well before Gaga's preaching.

...no it wasn't, the Monster Ball was well under way when Teenage Dream came out. Gaga was using the phrase "Born This Way" very early in the Monster Ball, was using it back in her first TV appearance in 2008 in fact. She popularized self-empowerment anthems simply by announcing that she planned to record one.

[Jolie's Lips]

The results don't lie.

[gagakyle]

Originally posted by P!nkInside

One review doesn't decide anything.

You said it wasn't criticized for the production, and I just proved it was. What kind of deluded mess?

Anyway, why are we talking about KP? She has even less of a musical impact on the music industry.

[Lyzz the Monster]

Originally posted by givemethatpop

Let me explain you this very quickly.

We know Gaga is not only an amazing songwriter but a very well producer, since she's the main producer of the big majority of her discography.

We have Gaga's producers' testimonies saying how she works on studio.

If this wasn't enough, we have VIDEOS uploaded by Rob Fusari about how Gaga's involved in the production of her songs, and these videos are pre-The Fame.

Knowing this, there's no denying Gaga was heavily involved in the production of that songs just like any other one.

Why does this get ignored?

[The Night]

Originally posted by P!nkInside

Like A Prayer is like 3 decades old.
It had a lot of musical impact for its time, when it came out

because of its video . lol you speak as if u experienced that musical influence of the song.

No reviewer ever talked about its groundbreaking music . all the fuss was created by that iconic video.

[collin]

Can I just bring to the table that a #1 single doesn't mean a song is widely adored?
It just means that people are small-minded enough to give in to it, tbh.

[Peep]

I don't know why people keep repeating Gaga not being in every possible credit/liner notes? She does lots of things and there's no denying. Just get on topic.

[P!nkInside]

Originally posted by Lyzz the Monster

Why does this get ignored?

Because even if Lady Gaga had produced JD or PF all by her self without the existence of RedOne, it still wouldn't be that impressive considering those songs brought nothing new to the table musically.

[Dickard]

Originally posted by Peep

I don't know why people keep repeating Gaga not being in every possible credit/liner notes? She does lots of things and there's no denying. Just get on topic.

Feeble attempts at belittling her success and impact.
Obviously she has impacted her contemporaries. Shut got weird after 2008.