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Poll: Will pop radio welcome Beyoncé & Gaga again?
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View Poll Results: Will pop radio welcome Beyonce and Gaga again?
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Yes
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Only if they Get On The Floor
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Member Since: 4/30/2009
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Beyonce just made music that wasn't radio friendly. Gaga's music just sucked.
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Originally posted by Lasers
Beyonce just made music that wasn't radio friendly. Gaga's music just sucked.
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 at the part about Gaga.
And people act like you have to "sell out" in order to make radio friendly music these days.
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
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Originally posted by Lasers
Beyonce just made music that wasn't radio friendly. Gaga's music just sucked.
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Member Since: 11/10/2011
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Lady Gaga doesn't need to be "welcomed back" to pop radio. She was never away from it.
Pop radio only plays electropop music at the moment, and Lady Gaga released an album almost full of electropop songs.
Beyonce released an album full of urban urban songs. So if she wants to be played on pop radio, she needs to release electropop songs, or wait for radio to go back to playing urban music again (which I think is slowly happening to be honest).
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Member Since: 2/15/2012
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Originally posted by ♔Drais Ivy Carter
at the part about Gaga.
And people act like you have to "sell out" in order to make radio friendly music these days.
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When you're a pop girl, you do. If you try to be too different from what the other girls are doing, radio will be iffy about supporting your music.
The Edge of Glory wasn't really an attempt at being too different. It was feel-good, upbeat, and its lyrics were more relatable than Marry The Night's were, for example. It was a structured pop song. Not a mess at all, like TEOG's video turned out to be.
That's another thing. The pop girls also have to have good visuals for their music to be successful on the charts. "Bad Romance" probably wouldn't have performed nearly as well as it did if not for the video she presented for it.
It's not just Gaga either. Look at the other girls' videographies. All of Katy's videos have been great, and Rihanna had one of the best videos of her career with WFL.
But if your video is not up to snuff, as a pop girl, your song is likely to fall flat in the sales department, which translates into radio airplay as well.
So that being said, Gaga needs to have a major artistic overhaul and reinvent herself, in image and music.
Beyonce, though, has made her place in history. She doesn't HAVE to do anything, really. It's the others, especially Gaga, who need to prove that they're here to stay.
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Member Since: 2/15/2012
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Originally posted by Tsuko
Lady Gaga doesn't need to be "welcomed back" to pop radio. She was never away from it.
Pop radio only plays electropop music at the moment, and Lady Gaga released an album almost full of electropop songs.
Beyonce released an album full of urban urban songs. So if she wants to be played on pop radio, she needs to release electropop songs, or wait for radio to go back to playing urban music again (which I think is slowly happening to be honest).
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Nope. They completely spurned her and MTN for TOTGA and WFL, to be honest. They didn't give a damn about Marry The Night, and Nicole even mentioned that she lost her appeal to radio programmers to the point that they made the "excuse" that she's "overexposed," which compared to Rihanna's 250+ million aggregate AI, simply doesn't hold that much weight...
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Member Since: 7/19/2009
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
When you're a pop girl, you do. If you try to be too different from what the other girls are doing, radio will be iffy about supporting your music.
The Edge of Glory wasn't really an attempt at being too different. It was feel-good, upbeat, and its lyrics were more relatable than Marry The Night's were, for example. It was a structured pop song. Not a mess at all, like TEOG's video turned out to be.
That's another thing. The pop girls also have to have good visuals for their music to be successful on the charts. "Bad Romance" probably wouldn't have performed nearly as well as it did if not for the video she presented for it.
It's not just Gaga either. Look at the other girls' videographies. All of Katy's videos have been great, and Rihanna had one of the best videos of her career with WFL.
But if your video is not up to snuff, as a pop girl, your song is likely to fall flat in the sales department, which translates into radio airplay as well.
So that being said, Gaga needs to have a major artistic overhaul and reinvent herself, in image and music.
Beyonce, though, has made her place in history. She doesn't HAVE to do anything, really. It's the others, especially Gaga, who need to prove that they're here to stay.
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Gaga's third album will be her big test.
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Member Since: 11/6/2011
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Originally posted by Lasers
Beyonce just made music that wasn't radio friendly. Gaga's music just sucked.
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How is Countdown & Love On Top not radio friendly? 
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Originally posted by Rock That Beat...
Gaga's third album will be her big test.
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I agree with this, and I think pretty much everyone else here can as well.
Like I said, "Gaga, you have some provin' to do!" 
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Oh, please. Gaga isn't 'rejected' from pop radio just because one of her singles flopped. The rest of her single catalog still gets played heavily. Beyonce, on the other hand... I-I heard Single Ladies the other week!
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Member Since: 2/15/2012
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Originally posted by WarriorQueen
How is Countdown & Love On Top not radio friendly? |
Countdown wasn't really... Love On Top, though, I could have seen that doing well six months ago, after the VMAs. 
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Originally posted by WarriorQueen
How is Countdown & Love On Top not radio friendly? |
to urban radio yeah, to pop radio not so much
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Member Since: 7/19/2009
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
I agree with this, and I think pretty much everyone else here can as well.
Like I said, "Gaga, you have some provin' to do!" |
That's true. But she will make it, her first single will probably be massive again.
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
When you're a pop girl, you do. If you try to be too different from what the other girls are doing, radio will be iffy about supporting your music.
The Edge of Glory wasn't really an attempt at being too different. It was feel-good, upbeat, and its lyrics were more relatable than Marry The Night's were, for example. It was a structured pop song. Not a mess at all, like TEOG's video turned out to be.
That's another thing. The pop girls also have to have good visuals for their music to be successful on the charts. "Bad Romance" probably wouldn't have performed nearly as well as it did if not for the video she presented for it.
It's not just Gaga either. Look at the other girls' videographies. All of Katy's videos have been great, and Rihanna had one of the best videos of her career with WFL.
But if your video is not up to snuff, as a pop girl, your song is likely to fall flat in the sales department, which translates into radio airplay as well.
So that being said, Gaga needs to have a major artistic overhaul and reinvent herself, in image and music.
Beyonce, though, has made her place in history. She doesn't HAVE to do anything, really. It's the others, especially Gaga, who need to prove that they're here to stay.
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I agree for the most part, and that's just the thing. Gaga was trying to be "too different", and we can't act like BTW was a huge attempt at trying to have hit after hit after hit. I think Gaga was more concerned with trying to convey an actual message this era (about equal rights and bullying) rather than radio hits. She will most likely be fine next era.
I agree with everything you said about Beyoncé.
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Originally posted by WarriorQueen
How is Countdown & Love On Top not radio friendly? |
For Pop Radio? 
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Member Since: 8/6/2010
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Well Love on Top is smashing on Pop Radio I hear it everyday and on every other format. Countdown wasn't Pop friendly..
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Beyonce
Pros: She's been around for so long, has a big catalogue, has proven herself. 4 was her only album to flop on pop radio after so many years.
Cons: Her music isn't pop-radio friendly anymore. RTW had echoes of the smash SL and BTINH had echoes of the smash Irreplacable but neither worked. She'll have to make adjustments to her sound if she wants pop radio success.
Gaga
Pros: Going back to fun radio-friendly pop songs for which she became famous isn't that much of a stretch for her. She's a contributor to the sound that's popular on pop radio today.
Cons: She's yet to prove her longevity and there's no guarantee anyone - including pop radio - will welcome her back. Especially since she keeps doing whatever she wants.
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Oh, I love them both! But you know, Beyonce has been in the game for many years now. I don't think it'd be too delusional to say that she'll have a legacy similar to Diana Ross, since, you know The Supremes and Destiny's Child were both very successful groups, and Ross and Beyonce have had fruitful solo careers as well.
Anyway, I don't consider myself a "stan" for anybody, and that's getting dangerously close to stan-level praise, so I'll stop. 
Anywho, Gaga can be "different" enough to stand out, so she isn't doing everything that everybody else is doing. She doesn't necessarily need to do a song that's so basic and mindless that radio will impulsively play it. No, what I think she needs is to just ease it back a little bit so that she doesn't "appear" to be trying too hard in a climate where her contemporaries get hits that are, well, almost effortless.
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Originally posted by Nicole
Beyonce
Pros: She's been around for so long, has a big catalogue, has proven herself. 4 was her only album to flop on pop radio after so many years.
Cons: Her music isn't pop-radio friendly anymore. RTW had echoes of the smash SL and BTINH had echoes of the smash Irreplacable but neither worked. She'll have to make adjustments to her sound if she wants pop radio success.
Gaga
Pros: Going back to fun radio-friendly pop songs for which she became famous isn't that much of a stretch for her. She's a contributor to the sound that's popular on pop radio today.
Cons: She's yet to prove her longevity and there's no guarantee anyone - including pop radio - will welcome her back. Especially since she keeps doing whatever she wants.
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Yeah, unfortunately, there's a point where you can be "too independent."
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Of course, they're both forces in the industry it's just their last albums weren't very mainstream.
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Originally posted by MrPeanut
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Originally posted by Lord Gaga (''')
Of course, they're both forces in the industry it's just their last albums weren't very mainstream.
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Sonically, no, but you're just asking for negative comparisons when you put out something like Born This Way as a commercial effort. Generally speaking, you do mixtapes for the fans who stick with you no matter what. Unfortunately, she turned a lot of people away with Born This Way, and it will take some doing to get at least some of them to support her ever again.
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