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TV Show: 100 Greatest Women In Music (VH1)
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Originally posted by Icing
I honestly don't know where to start.  First an foremost, we're not talking about success. We're talking about influence and artistry. And gal, in what twisted world was Whitney more successful than MADONNA in the 80s. I'm concerned. |
1. When did VH1 release the criteria on which this list was accumulated?
2. So you just gon' sit there and say success doesn't have anything to do with people ranking Madge #1?
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Originally posted by Nicole
Talent is not only voice. Madonna's music is way more interesting, remembered and praised than Xtina's.
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Let's not bring Xtina into this. We're talking about why some of the ladies in here so strongly believe Madonna is better (in whatever way) than all of the women who came before her & after her. Those very words were said. I just want to be enlightened 
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16 Jennifer Lopez
5 Adele
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Are u f***** kidding me?
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Because Madonna revitalized music. She made music videos a medium to promote your music and cause controversy. She released strong songs with nice hooks and melodies and intricate lyrics. She headed a sexual revolution. She made interviews funny. She was eloquent. She invented re-invention. We shouldn't have to be explaining it.
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
1. When did VH1 release the criteria on which this list was accumulated?
2. So you just gon' sit there and say success doesn't have anything to do with people ranking Madge #1?
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I mean, influence can be dependent on success a lot of the time. But, I thought that was a given? 
And you didn't answer my question. How was Whitney more successful and more impactful than Madonna in the 80s?
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Originally posted by JoaoP
16 Jennifer Lopez
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Right??? Like Adele is way too high and Jenny shouldn't even be top 20!
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Originally posted by Thisisit
Aretha  Diana and Tina >>>> |
Nope! Tina could make a little little sense but Diana? NO just NO.
None of these women are on par with her.
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
Let's not bring Xtina into this. We're talking about why some of the ladies in here so strongly believe Madonna is better (in whatever way) than all of the women who came before her & after her. Those very words were said. I just want to be enlightened
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She is not better at least for me but she had more impact on pop culture.
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Originally posted by Icing
I honestly don't know where to start. First an foremost, we're not talking about success. We're talking about influence and artistry. And gal, in what twisted world was Whitney more successful than MADONNA in the 80s. I'm concerned. |
Whitney in the 80's was way more influential than Madonna
Whitney broke barriers, created music records and paved the way for many
Madonna did not!
Before Whitney, African American female artist were not selling multi platinum and beyond
in America,
Whitney was the 1st african american female to do diamond! and
if i'm not mistaken she was also the 1st FEMALE OVERALL to get a diamond certification and to debut at number 1
and Whitney with 2 albums released in the 80's eclipse Madonna and Madonna had what 4
albums in the 80's?
Whitney OUTSOLD her and had MORE HITS, and establish Billboard records (Madonna didn't)
and Whitney only did it with 2 albums, while Madonna had like
what 4 albums in the 80's?
and Whitney's artistry was/is her voice, which reign supreme over Madonna
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Originally posted by Alexz
Because Madonna revitalized music. She made music videos a medium to promote your music and cause controversy. She released strong songs with nice hooks and melodies and intricate lyrics. She headed a sexual revolution. She made interviews funny. She was eloquent. She invented re-invention. We shouldn't have to be explaining it.
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Sis, I already dragged Madge and her stans on everything you just mentioned. I'll just re-direct you, just start on page four:
http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.ph...63#post8320663
Madonna is a certified legend and icon. But, to say she is more influential/greater than anyone before or after her just emphasizes the delusion.
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People who didn't grow up in the 80's shouldn't comment on what kind of impact on influence a person had in that time. I think u had to live through it to feel the impact or know the influence, which has nothing to do with billboard hits and album peaks. That's why certain topics on here shouldn't be discussed because most of us did not grow up in that time, admit it some of us are young, some more musically knowledgeable than others.
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Originally posted by Beautiful Liar
Whitney in the 80's was way more influential than Madonna
Whitney broke barriers, created music records and paved the way for many
Madonna did not!
Before Whitney, African American female artist were not selling multi platinum and beyond
in America,
Whitney was the 1st!
and Whitney with 2 albums released in the 80's eclipse Madonna and Madonna had what 4
albums in the 80's?
Whitney OUTSOLD her and had MORE HITS, and establish Billboard records (Madonna didn't)
and Whitney only did it with 2 albums, while Madonna had like
what 4 albums in the 80's?
and Whitney's artistry was/is her voice, which reign supreme over Madonna
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what u said is true tho. I don't agree with ur first point about Madonna, but it's true that whitney broke down racial barriers in music like MJ did.
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Originally posted by Beautiful Liar
Whitney in the 80's was way more influential than Madonna
Whitney broke barriers, created music records and paved the way for many
Madonna did not!
Before Whitney, African American female artist were not selling multi platinum and beyond
in America,
Whitney was the 1st!
and Whitney with 2 albums released in the 80's eclipse Madonna and Madonna had what 4
albums in the 80's?
Whitney OUTSOLD her and had MORE HITS, and establish Billboard records (Madonna didn't) and Whitney only did it
with 2 albums, while Madonna had like
what 4 albums in the 80's?
and Whitney's artistry was/is her voice, which reign supreme over Madonna
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I'm not gonna even bother. This is disgusting. Does this deserve a report? This so deserves a report.
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Originally posted by GeezusHaberdash
mess.  |
PROBLEM?!?!?!
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
Let's not bring Xtina into this. We're talking about why some of the ladies in here so strongly believe Madonna is better (in whatever way) than all of the women who came before her & after her. Those very words were said. I just want to be enlightened
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No, "greater" which is understood in this context as the artist with the most success and impact. This is Madonna.
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Originally posted by Beautiful Liar
Whitney in the 80's was way more influential than Madonna
Whitney broke barriers, created music records and paved the way for many
Madonna did not!
Before Whitney, African American female artist were not selling multi platinum and beyond
in America,
Whitney was the 1st african american female to do diamond! and
if i'm not mistaken she was also the 1st FEMALE OVERALL to get a diamond certification and to debut at number 1
and Whitney with 2 albums released in the 80's eclipse Madonna and Madonna had what 4
albums in the 80's?
Whitney OUTSOLD her and had MORE HITS, and establish Billboard records (Madonna didn't)
and Whitney only did it with 2 albums, while Madonna had like
what 4 albums in the 80's?
and Whitney's artistry was/is her voice, which reign supreme over Madonna
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What artistry? Whitney never wrote a song. Please stop.
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Originally posted by Alexz
What artistry? Whitney never wrote a song. Please stop.
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Neither did Aretha.
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
Sis, I already dragged Madge and her stans on everything you just mentioned. I'll just re-direct you, just start on page four:
http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.ph...63#post8320663
Madonna is a certified legend and icon. But, to say she is more influential/greater than anyone before or after her just emphasizes the delusion.
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Your "drag" didn't work. Madonna is the most influential female singer of all times.
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Originally posted by Beautiful Liar
Whitney in the 80's was way more influential than Madonna
Madonna did not!
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Just one example: the Not Myself Tonight video is based on Madonna's 1989 Express Yourself video.
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Member Since: 10/9/2008
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Originally posted by Icing
I'm not gonna even bother. This is disgusting. Does this deserve a report? This so deserves a report. |
'Delusion' is reportable. 
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