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Poll: Britney vs Avril: who had the better 2011?
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View Poll Results: Who had the better 2011: Britney or Avril?
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Britney
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Avril
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Member Since: 12/30/2010
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Originally posted by dinorel
Femme Fatale a 7th studio album
Goodbye Lullaby a 4th studio album  |
That doesn't mean anything, you want to talk about Rihanna (moreover, without breaks)?
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Originally posted by Green
So? She still sold more albums than the "album artist".
If Avril is really an "album artist" she would have easily outsold a "singles artist" even without any hits.
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So what? She still needs one hit as lead single: Girlfriend was a hit, WYG an average hit: 6M copies cols of TBDT.
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Originally posted by Squall
That doesn't mean anything, you want to talk about Rihanna (moreover, without breaks)?
So what? She still needs one hit as lead single: Girlfriend was a hit, WYG an average hit: 6M copies cols of TBDT.
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What must you run your mouth about Rihanna now? She's irrelevant to this thread.
Avril's problem is her image. Until she's ready to take it up a notch and grow up as an artist, image-wise, the door is shut for her. She didn't use the gift of youth from God to her advantage. Being late 20s and still looking that pretty deserves some groundbreaking pop materials. Instead, she sticks to her old sound and image which is dated as hell. That "I can do whatever I like **** you I don't give a ****" is so "Let Go".
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Originally posted by Squall
That doesn't mean anything, you want to talk about Rihanna (moreover, without breaks)?
So what? She still needs one hit as lead single: Girlfriend was a hit, WYG an average hit: 6M copies cols of TBDT.
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Wow you had a meltdown and became nasty , bringing Rihanna and Talking about TBDT...
Relax girl ....
and Yes it means a lot that Britney with a 7th studio album outsold avril's 4th album
Femme Fatale a 7th studio album = Longevity
Goodbye Lullaby a 4th studio album = decline
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Member Since: 12/30/2010
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Quote:
Originally posted by dinorel
Wow you had a meltdown and became nasty , bringing Rihanna and Talking about TBDT...
Relax girl ....
and Yes it means a lot that Britney with a 7th studio album outsold avril's 4th album
Femme Fatale a 7th studio album = Longevity
Goodbye Lullaby a 4th studio album = decline
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Lol no, that just means that Britney had support.
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TOURING:
The Femme Fatale Tour $70 million (80 dates) VS. The Black Star Tour $12.5 million (50 dates)
SINGLES:
Hold It Against Me 3.1 million (#1 in 14 countries) VS. What The Hell 2.7 million (top 10 in 10 countries)
Till The World Ends 4.3 million (top 10 in 24 countries) VS. Smile 0.4 million (top 40 in 7 countries)
I Wanna Go 2.4 million (top 10 in 15 countries) VS. Wish You Were Here 0.4 million (top 40 in 3 countries)
Criminal 0.5 million (top 40 in 11 countries) VS. Whatever she would have released if she had gotten a fourth single
ALBUMS:
Femme Fatale 1.5 million (#1 in 14 countries) VS. Goodbye Lullaby 1.3 million (top 3 in 13 countries)
METACRITIC:
Femme Fatale 67 (generally favorable reviews) VS. Goodbye Lullaby 58 (mixed or average reviews)
PERSONAL LIFE:
Got engaged VS. Got attacked
PROMOTION:
Femme Fatale:
Good Morning America (Hold It Against Me, Till The World Ends)
Jimmy Kimmel Live! (Hold It Against Me, Till The World Ends)
Billboard Music Awards (Till The World Ends, S&M)
Goodbye Lullaby:
Dick Clark's New Year's Rockin' Eve (What The Hell)
Daybreak (What The Hell)
BBC Radio 1 (What The Hell)
The View (What The Hell)
Jimmy Kimmel Live! (What The Hell)
he Tonight Show With Jay Leno (What The Hell)
Much Music Video Awards (What The Hell)
Sunrise (What The Hell)
T4 (What The Hell, Smile)
Walmart Soundcheck (What The Hell, Smile)
Britain's Got Talent (What The Hell, Smile)
2DayFM (Smile)
Schlag Den Raab (Smile)
America's Got Talent (Smile)
AOL Sessions (Smile)
Good Morning America (Wish You Were Here)
Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade (Wish You Were Here)
Regis and Kelly (Wish You Were Here)
The Rachael Ray Show (Wish You Were Here)
'S&M' remix also went #1 in Canada, US, and WW. 
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Originally posted by Duca
TOURING:
The Femme Fatale Tour $70 million (80 dates) VS. The Black Star Tour $12.5 million (50 dates)
SINGLES:
Hold It Against Me 3.1 million (#1 in 14 countries) VS. What The Hell 2.7 million (top 10 in 10 countries)
Till The World Ends 4.3 million (top 10 in 24 countries) VS. Smile 0.4 million (top 40 in 7 countries)
I Wanna Go 2.4 million (top 10 in 15 countries) VS. Wish You Were Here 0.4 million (top 40 in 3 countries)
Criminal 0.5 million (top 40 in 11 countries) VS. Whatever she would have released if she had she gotten a fourth single
ALBUMS:
Femme Fatale 1.5 million (#1 in 14 countries) VS. Goodbye Lullaby 1.3 million (top 3 in 13 countries)
METACRITIC:
Femme Fatale 67 (generally favorable reviews) VS. Goodbye Lullaby 58 (mixed or average reviews)
PERSONAL LIFE:
Got engaged VS. Got attacked
'S&M' remix also went #1 in Canada, US, and WW. |
PLUS!!!
Britney won 2 MTV video music awards, 1 MTV europe music award, and got nominations on People's choice awards , and is currently nominated on NRJ awards ... ETC
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Originally posted by dinorel
PLUS!!!
Britney won 2 MTV video music awards, 1 MTV europe music award, and got nominations on People's choice awards , and is currently nominated on NRJ awards ... ETC
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Critics and award shows don't use Avril, so I didn't think it was fair to include that as well, since Britney already trumps her in all the categories, but...
* Another Guinness World Record: Youngest Female Artist to Have Six of Her Albums Reach #1 on the Music Charts.
* Received the MTV Lifetime Achievement Award.
* Set to Receive the NRJ Lifetime Achievement Award.
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Originally posted by Duca
TOURING:
The Femme Fatale Tour $70 million (80 dates) VS. The Black Star Tour $12.5 million (50 dates)
SINGLES:
Hold It Against Me 3.1 million (#1 in 14 countries) VS. What The Hell 2.7 million (top 10 in 10 countries)
Till The World Ends 4.3 million (top 10 in 24 countries) VS. Smile 0.4 million (top 40 in 7 countries)
I Wanna Go 2.4 million (top 10 in 15 countries) VS. Wish You Were Here 0.4 million (top 40 in 3 countries)
Criminal 0.5 million (top 40 in 11 countries) VS. Whatever she would have released if she had she gotten a fourth single
ALBUMS:
Femme Fatale 1.5 million (#1 in 14 countries) VS. Goodbye Lullaby 1.3 million (top 3 in 13 countries)
METACRITIC:
Femme Fatale 67 (generally favorable reviews) VS. Goodbye Lullaby 58 (mixed or average reviews)
PERSONAL LIFE:
Got engaged VS. Got attacked
'S&M' remix also went #1 in Canada, US, and WW. |
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Quote:
Originally posted by Duca
TOURING:
The Femme Fatale Tour $70 million (80 dates) VS. The Black Star Tour $12.5 million (50 dates)
SINGLES:
Hold It Against Me 3.1 million (#1 in 14 countries) VS. What The Hell 2.7 million (top 10 in 10 countries)
Till The World Ends 4.3 million (top 10 in 24 countries) VS. Smile 0.4 million (top 40 in 7 countries)
I Wanna Go 2.4 million (top 10 in 15 countries) VS. Wish You Were Here 0.4 million (top 40 in 3 countries)
Criminal 0.5 million (top 40 in 11 countries) VS. Whatever she would have released if she had she gotten a fourth single
ALBUMS:
Femme Fatale 1.5 million (#1 in 14 countries) VS. Goodbye Lullaby 1.3 million (top 3 in 13 countries)
METACRITIC:
Femme Fatale 67 (generally favorable reviews) VS. Goodbye Lullaby 58 (mixed or average reviews)
PERSONAL LIFE:
Got engaged VS. Got attacked
'S&M' remix also went #1 in Canada, US, and WW. |
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Member Since: 10/8/2011
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Originally posted by Duca
Critics and award shows don't use Avril, so I didn't think it was fair to include that as well, since Britney already trumps her in all the categories, but...
* Another Guinness World Record: Youngest Female Artist to Have Six of Her Albums Reach #1 on the Music Charts.
* Received the MTV Lifetime Achievement Award.
* Set to Receive the NRJ Lifetime Achievement Award.
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That's cool... I'm excited about the NRJ awards .... all of her FF singles performed really well there (france) and the album too
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Originally posted by dinorel
That's cool... I'm excited about the NRJ awards .... all of her FF singles performed really well there (france) and the album too
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She's featured in several promos for the show, so hopefully she makes an appearance.
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Originally posted by Duca
She's featured in several promos for the show, so hopefully she makes an appearance. |
If she is going to receive the NRJ lifetime achievement award that Madonna received, she needs to go to that NRJs ..... and I want a boost in sales in france because Femme Fatale is so close to turn Platinum there 
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Quote:
Originally posted by Duca
Critics and award shows don't use Avril, so I didn't think it was fair to include that as well, since Britney already trumps her in all the categories, but...
* Another Guinness World Record: Youngest Female Artist to Have Six of Her Albums Reach #1 on the Music Charts.
* Received the MTV Lifetime Achievement Award.
* Set to Receive the NRJ Lifetime Achievement Award.
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The NRJ Music Awards are **** since some years though. The achivement award is just an award that they give when the artist come to the ceremony (and when the artist doesn't have nominations). This year, I'm sure they'll do the same thing with Shakira (or they will nominate Je l'Aime A Mourir as french song of the year because she comes).
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Originally posted by Robertlavigne
Sis WTH sold 1.5 times what HIAM did. That's not barely and Britney still had an itunes banner. Avril got limited promotion WW and about 4 performances in the US and most of them were as the single was dieing so  . Avrils tour only flopped in Canada. It was sold out in Europe and Asia (including the upcoming dates) and made a lot in South America. FF sold the same as Goodbye Lullaby. Media Traffic has a history of underestimating Avril's sales and as for awards well I'll give you that but the only thing relavent Britney won was her 2 VMA's. They both underperformed and Avril did worse but I'm not here for your lies. |
WTH outsold HIAM by 1.5 times? What in the name of all that is inflation are you talking about? Just how much are the Avril stans claiming she sold with WTH?
Avril had limited promotion WW? You do realize Britney had even less promo than Avril right? The first six months of release for Femme Fatale, Britney never stepped a foot outside of the US soil to promote her album. Why else would you think she flopped overseas? She didn't go overseas and promote like she did for Circus with the promo tour. Instead, her team waited till the European leg begun to film some pre-recorded interviews lasting only a few minutes. By then, they were entirely too late to save the album, but it did boost the sales for singles a tad bit.
But no! Goodbye Lullaby hasn't outsold FF since Femme Fatale's 4th or 5th week on the charts. The same that goes for Avril in not all countries numbers being recognized by Mediatraffic, the same applies to Britney as well. Femme Fatale Tour prices were expensive as hell and the boxscores reflected that, yet Brit was able to manage a measly 70 million grossed from that tour.
I mean, it's not that serious to get all worked up about. Both albums underperformed and were released in the deadliest quarter for music sales. It was to be expected if one didn't put the work behind promoting them. But this is about the truth here, FF produced over 10 million records sold this past year. I highly doubt Goodbye Lullaby could claim the same.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Duca
TOURING:
The Femme Fatale Tour $70 million (80 dates) VS. The Black Star Tour $12.5 million (50 dates)
SINGLES:
Hold It Against Me 3.1 million (#1 in 14 countries) VS. What The Hell 2.7 million (top 10 in 10 countries)
Till The World Ends 4.3 million (top 10 in 24 countries) VS. Smile 0.4 million (top 40 in 7 countries)
I Wanna Go 2.4 million (top 10 in 15 countries) VS. Wish You Were Here 0.4 million (top 40 in 3 countries)
Criminal 0.5 million (top 40 in 11 countries) VS. Whatever she would have released if she had gotten a fourth single
ALBUMS:
Femme Fatale 1.5 million (#1 in 14 countries) VS. Goodbye Lullaby 1.3 million (top 3 in 13 countries)
METACRITIC:
Femme Fatale 67 (generally favorable reviews) VS. Goodbye Lullaby 58 (mixed or average reviews)
PERSONAL LIFE:
Got engaged VS. Got attacked
PROMOTION:
Femme Fatale:
Good Morning America (Hold It Against Me, Till The World Ends)
Jimmy Kimmel Live! (Hold It Against Me, Till The World Ends)
Billboard Music Awards (Till The World Ends, S&M)
Goodbye Lullaby:
Dick Clark's New Year's Rockin' Eve (What The Hell)
Daybreak (What The Hell)
BBC Radio 1 (What The Hell)
The View (What The Hell)
Jimmy Kimmel Live! (What The Hell)
he Tonight Show With Jay Leno (What The Hell)
Much Music Video Awards (What The Hell)
Sunrise (What The Hell)
T4 (What The Hell, Smile)
Walmart Soundcheck (What The Hell, Smile)
Britain's Got Talent (What The Hell, Smile)
2DayFM (Smile)
Schlag Den Raab (Smile)
America's Got Talent (Smile)
AOL Sessions (Smile)
Good Morning America (Wish You Were Here)
Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade (Wish You Were Here)
Regis and Kelly (Wish You Were Here)
The Rachael Ray Show (Wish You Were Here)
'S&M' remix also went #1 in Canada, US, and WW. |
Added promotion schedules.
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Oh Squall, I knew it had to be you. It's time to retreat to the base. Literally.
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Quote:
Originally posted by dinorel
Femme Fatale a 7th studio album
Goodbye Lullaby a 4th studio album |
It's her 4th after 4 years break and it hurted her career so badly. No doubt that Brit had more success in 2011 but it's just not fair when you used this thing to against Avril.
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Originally posted by Squall
The NRJ Music Awards are **** since some years though. The achivement award is just an award that they give when the artist come to the ceremony (and when the artist doesn't have nominations). This year, I'm sure they'll do the same thing with Shakira (or they will nominate Je l'Aime A Mourir as french song of the year because she comes).
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Only Phil Collins, Madonna, and U2 receive the NRJ Award of Honor for the Career that she's going to receive. You tried.
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Originally posted by Duca
PERSONAL LIFE:
Got engaged VS. Got attacked
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omg duca 
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