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Poll: Spears and Gaga vs. General Public
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View Poll Results: Who does the general public connect with more?
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Britney Spears
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Lady Gaga
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Originally posted by ifyouseekLEM
No one connects with Lady GaGa because outside of her fans and those that see her interviews -- people think she's a try-hard, uppity bitch that's full of herself and let the fame get to her head.

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Britney may still get ridiculed for her past -- but the comeback was avoidable and it's clear to most that she's on the right track again.
That and the fact that she's not wearing teal wigs and giant moles...the attraction - blonde/white/girl next door factor helps as well.

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Originally posted by Nicole
Neither. To them Gaga is a try-hard weirdo and Britney a past-her-prime hasbeen.
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Britney was (is?) the American Sweetheart. Once they broke her down, she was immediately the underdog that everyone was rooting for. Even when she got engaged, every comment was "hope she gets a happy ending" or "she deserves this" and so on.
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Originally posted by ifyouseekLEM
No one connects with Lady GaGa because outside of her fans and those that see her interviews -- people think she's a try-hard, uppity bitch that's full of herself and let the fame get to her head.

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Pretty much. They see her as a joke because of her outfits. Not everyone gets her "art"
When she was on GMA and being interviewed by Robin, she was asked how long she stayed inside the "vessel" -- she replied 3 days and you could hear people on the side laughing at her and Robin laughed right in her face while Gaga sat there with a serious expression. The meat dress was just as bad.
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
she often comes off fake, contrived and calculated.
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Originally posted by ifyouseekLEM
No one connects with Lady GaGa because outside of her fans and those that see her interviews -- people think she's a try-hard, uppity bitch that's full of herself and let the fame get to her head.
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Yas...
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Originally posted by ifyouseekLEM
No one connects with Lady GaGa because outside of her fans and those that see her interviews -- people think she's a try-hard, uppity bitch that's full of herself and let the fame get to her head.

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And the GP sees Britney as the representation of everything that's wrong with the pop star -- manufactured and devoid of talent -- in addition to being a trainwreck of a human being. I don't think it's fair, I think she has/had talent, but I would say that's the general response from people.
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Originally posted by Nicole
People don't see Britney as a "typical ingenue who shops at Walmart and is a part of the every day Middle Class."
They see her as a former teen pop princess who partied wildly with Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton, stumbled out of clubs and cars, flashed her crotch every chance she got, did hard drugs, didn't know how to deal with the pressures of fame and ultimately went crazy. Couple that with the lipsyching controversy (even her own fans admit she's pretty much synonymous with it; their ears perk up reflexively every time it's brought up) and she's neither Middle Class nor real and relatable to the Middle Class. As far as I know the Middle Class doesn't party with the wildest of Hollywood ****s like Lindsay and Paris.
This is why when the contestant won that tacky new reality TV show whose name I can't remember, she was told to "keep it real" and not stumble down the Britney Spears path.
But I'm not making an argument for Gaga being relatable either. She clearly isn't.
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If Britney is seen as you say, then why people wanted her to be successful again? I mean they were all rooting for her comeback.
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Originally posted by MrPeanut
And the GP sees Britney as the representation of everything that's wrong with the pop star -- manufactured and devoid of talent -- in addition to being a trainwreck of a human being. I don't think it's fair, I think she has/had talent, but I would say that's the general response from people.
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At the end of the day -- men would still **** Britney....and women still try to be like Britney. So the GP clearly connects with Britney more, simply from an attraction and personal standpoint.

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Originally posted by Katie
Britney was (is?) the American Sweetheart. Once they broke her down, she was immediately the underdog that everyone was rooting for. Even when she got engaged, every comment was "hope she gets a happy ending" or "she deserves this" and so on.
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Most people were not rooting for her. They used her breakdown as a form of entertainment.

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Originally posted by MrPeanut
And the GP sees Britney as the representation of everything that's wrong with the pop star -- manufactured and devoid of talent -- in addition to being a trainwreck of a human being. I don't think it's fair, I think she has/had talent, but I would say that's the general response from people.
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The general public doesn't usually care about talent. I mean, look around at the newcomers in Hollywood in the past few years. But I agree about the train wreck life. When most stars start to slip it's always "don't pull a Britney."
PS You changed your default avi. I almost had no idea it was you 
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Gaga has a greater-than-life image, hence why she is hard to connect with for the General public. But Gaga's weakest point, her eccentric image, is also her main strength which has made her the number one pop star on Earth.
Britney, who was once that number one pop star, is pretty much the opposite. Her image was being so normal and relatable, and still kinda is if you forget about her crazy breakdown and lip synching tactics.
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Originally posted by Nicole
Paula Patton, so likable and relatable.

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Too bad the general public doesn't care for Paula Patton . Let's hope a few people googled her or read the ending credits of Mission Impossible.

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Oh Vin 
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Originally posted by hausofkisuke
Most people were not rooting for her. They used her breakdown as a form of entertainment.

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I mean once she was getting back up. As in, from Womanizer forward.
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Originally posted by Chickenchiki
If Britney is seen as you say, then why people wanted her to be successful again? I mean they were all rooting for her comeback.
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The masses root for Britney and always will. I said it before and I'll say it again, Britney is like the Julia Roberts of the music industry. Julia is also looked at as America's sweetheart. Julia, much like Britney, is very well liked by the general public. The same applies for Jennifer Aniston.
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Originally posted by hausofkisuke
Most people were not rooting for her. They used her breakdown as a form of entertainment.

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True. Outside the fans, no one was rooting for Britney until she came back with Womanizer. If she didn't come back -- everyone would have just sat back and watch her die like Amy.

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Originally posted by ifyouseekLEM
At the end of the day -- men would still **** Britney....and women still try to be like Britney. So the GP clearly connects with Britney more, simply from an attraction and personal standpoint.

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I already said the GP "connects" with her more, so that's not in dispute from me, but I don't know any girl who'd willingly admit to emulating Britney these days, nor really any guy who has her on their celebrity to-do list. It's not 2004 anymore.
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Originally posted by hausofkisuke
Most people were not rooting for her. They used her breakdown as a form of entertainment.
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You know nothing about the Circus era then... Because that is all people were doing for her. 
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Originally posted by Monroe
Hold It Against Me and Criminal both deal with those topics. Pretty much all of Britney's back catalog are about subjects of the heart. Do you know Britney at all.  Regardless Britney is more like Adele and Taylor then Gaga is which was my main point. If you think Adele and Taylor are relatable then logic should be able to lead you to believe Britney (who shares more things in common with them in terms of personality and image) would be more relatable then Gaga who is the complete opposite of them. 
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Judging by these songs' sales, it's safe to say that people don't relate to them at all. 
At least Gaga is always viewed as a gay activist and people do know she's all about self-empowered. That alone makes her relatable. What you said about how "Gaga is too cold and mechanical to fall in love with" is just ridiculous.
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Originally posted by Chickenchiki
If Britney is seen as you say, then why people wanted her to be successful again? I mean they were all rooting for her comeback.
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She has a great team of producers and marketers who give her a lot of pop candy, but even then neither Circus and especially not Femme Fatale set the charts on fire. And I didn't say people hate her or want her to fail. I said a girl who is seen as being up to no good with Hollywood's most notorious partygirls is not perceived as "one of the Middle Class."
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Originally posted by Katie
Britney was (is?) the American Sweetheart. Once they broke her down, she was immediately the underdog that everyone was rooting for. Even when she got engaged, every comment was "hope she gets a happy ending" or "she deserves this" and so on.
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Exactly. Her breakdown actually helped people find more similarities with her, making her even more relatable. The press, the media, the audience, they never lose interest in her personal or public life; she always has them wanting more. She ends up on a magazine cover when she goes for a Starbucks run in her sweats, for God's sake.
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