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Discussion: What's your stance on...? #46: Organ Donation
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Originally posted by TheGeoKing
This is 100% true. I did a study myself (not much credibility I know  ) but I found that the People's Republic of China is already ahead of the U.S. I ranked each country on 60 different aspects ranging from Freedom of the Press to Military expenditures to Imports/Exports. Pretty much every important aspect and got point values.
1. People's Republic of China - 1,338
2. USA - 1,282
3. Russia - 732
4. Japan - 647
5. India - 544
6. France - 531
7. Germany - 499
8. Canada - 441
9. United Kingdom - 345
10. Norway - 351
11. Australia - 337
12. Brazil - 319
13. Italy - 288
14. Denmark - 280
15. Sweden - 280
16. Finland - 269
17. Netherlands - 259
18. Switzerland - 247
19. Singapore - 241
20. New Zealand - 227
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It's funny how important US citizens think being #1 is. They think that being #1 = losing our freedom and China owning us (though technically we do owe China a lot of money).
Oh, and I finally found a signature. 
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Originally posted by vengabeat
Oh, and I finally found a signature. |
Sis that better be praising me instead of shading me 
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Originally posted by Shape
Sis that better be praising me instead of shading me |
You best believe it's the former. 
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If only you also said BTW wouldn't get an AOTY nom...
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Oh, sis, I couldn't put my stan card down for that one. I had to keep the faith alive.
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Originally posted by Shape
I'm here for another round of bashing America's policies 
You and I are on the same page tonight.
If only you also said BTW wouldn't get an AOTY nom... |
Um, Canadians can't play that round. It wouldn't be fair. 
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Originally posted by vengabeat
Your ancestors did that. Your ancestors came to this land, murdered its people, raped its women and children, stole its food, and took over everything... and here you are complaining because Mexicans want to come to this country and do something you'd never do for a pathetically small amount of money?
And did you really just compare the US to Korea and Israel? BYE.
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First of all, those aren't my ancestors. Anyways, that's completely off-topic and irrelevant to anything.
You're missing the point. Money isn't lost only through non-tax paying, small jobs, its lost to illegal immigration because America is the ONLY country that caters to them. Like I already said, HEALTHCARE, EDUCATION, the prison system, etc. all these things lose a combination of 20 billion a year on people who aren't even supposed to be here without citizenship.
For some reason, people act like America is somehow an ENEMY to foreigners. Do you know how many people are trying to get into America and waiting their turn? Can you imagine somebody cutting you off in line? America has RESOURCES, that's why people want to come here. We're the only country where you can "Press 2 for Spanish" or have a translator at for you when you're in a hospital. Other countries' DON'T do that. It's an honor to live in America. And if you don't wait you're turn like everyone else, you're deported. Plain and simple.
20 billion dollars lost a year isn't a small amount of money. America could REALLY use that.
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I think this thread should be marked as "not moderated".
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My dad came to the US as an illegal immigrant.
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Originally posted by Katie
Um, Canadians can't play that round. It wouldn't be fair. |
Then neither can the Europeans
To be fair, and to keep it from being a dragfest, it should only be American citizens
I'd try to become a citizen, but it's a little too tough
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Originally posted by ắttitudé
My dad came to the US as an illegal immigrant.
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Were you born in the United States?
What about your mom?
Where is your dad now?
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Originally posted by ắttitudé
My dad came to the US as an illegal immigrant.
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Cool story. 
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Originally posted by Shape
Then neither can the Europeans
To be fair, and to keep it from being a dragfest, it should only be American citizens
I'd try to become a citizen, but it's a little too tough |
It wouldn't have to be only about the US. Countries that already have it could talk about the benefits, what it's like, how it impacts their income, and so on.
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Cool story. |
Thank you it took everything I had to share that with you. 
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Originally posted by Katie
Most of the time it's not that people in the US "can't" find a job, it's that they aren't willing to take what they can get. Most require a certain income to live their lives, or demand certain hours, or don't like doing certain tasks. Whereas mos immigrants who come from worse countries than the US don't see a problem taking what they can get. This is the generalization, but it's the most often seen case.
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Let's say you're right about this. It's still not changing the fact that its STILL costing America money to "host" illegal immigrants, which is why the economy is draining at a rapid rate.
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Originally posted by NE.
First of all, those aren't my ancestors. Anyways, that's completely off-topic and irrelevant to anything.
You're missing the point. Money isn't lost only through non-tax paying, small jobs, its lost to illegal immigration because America is the ONLY country that caters to them. Like I already said, HEALTHCARE, EDUCATION, the prison system, etc. all these things lose a combination of 20 billion a year on people who aren't even supposed to be here without citizenship.
For some reason, people act like America is somehow an ENEMY to foreigners. Do you know how many people are trying to get into America and waiting their turn? Can you imagine somebody cutting you off in line? America has RESOURCES, that's why people want to come here. We're the only country where you can "Press 2 for Spanish" or have a translator at for you when you're in a hospital. Other countries' DON'T do that. It's an honor to live in America. And if you don't wait you're turn like everyone else, you're deported. Plain and simple.
20 billion dollars lost a year isn't a small amount of money. America could REALLY use that. |
So if America caters to them, that means it's the gov't causing the problems, yet you just said the gov't isn't causing the problems. I don't get you and I'm done trying to get your fallacy-filled argument.
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I'd try to become a citizen, but it's a little too tough
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I'll trade my American citizenship with your Canadian citizenship. 
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Originally posted by Shape
OOP. China is the new Adele.
Canada top 8  I guess our spot in the G8 is no longer held in question.
I love this study, but what kinds of attributes are you talking about |
It was actually a very interesting method. I gave point values to each respective aspect based on importance.
Example
Human Development (50)
Life Expectancy (40)
Tourism (20)
Then gave the assigned point values to each group of nations at the top in that particular aspect. Points could also be subtracted for low scores in certain aspects or for nations in famine etc. Which led me to finding the lowest scored nations list as well.
Swaziland - -40
Burundi - -44
Democratic Republic of the Congo - -45
Ethiopia - -45
Yemen - -46
Tanzania - -47
Eritrea - -50
Turkmenistan - -59
Myanmar - -60
Somalia - -70
Sudan - -105
Guinea - -108
Afghanistan - -110
Central African Republic - -121
Sierra Leone - -128
Mali - -131
Niger - -157
Burkina Faso - -179
Chad - -190
Zimbabwe - -208
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Originally posted by NE.
Let's say you're right about this. It's still not changing the fact that its STILL costing America money to "host" illegal immigrants, which is why the economy is draining at a rapid rate.
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Which is why I think becoming a citizen should only be a registration process, and then they could begin paying their taxes right away. If that's not enough, let's raise taxes. I think they're too low anyway.
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Originally posted by Katie
It wouldn't have to be only about the US. Countries that already have it could talk about the benefits, what it's like, how it impacts their income, and so on.
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Then why can't Canadians?
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Originally posted by ắttitudé
Thank you it took everything I had to share that with you. |
Thank you for sharing it.
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Originally posted by NE.
Let's say you're right about this. It's still not changing the fact that its STILL costing America money to "host" illegal immigrants, which is why the economy is draining at a rapid rate.
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Lul I didn't know immigrants = mortgages.
Let's be honest on what's draining/already drained the economy.
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Originally posted by Shape
Then neither can the Europeans
To be fair, and to keep it from being a dragfest, it should only be American citizens
I'd try to become a citizen, but it's a little too tough
Were you born in the United States?
What about your mom?
Where is your dad now? |
No I wasn't born in the US. Everyone in my family is a resident of the US. My sister's becoming a US citizen next year. :leet:
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Originally posted by ắttitudé
No I wasn't born in the US. Everyone in my family is a resident of the US. My sister's becoming a US citizen next year. :leet:
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Good!
How was the process of getting your citizenship?
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WHAT'S YOUR STANCE ON: enough already , you have a successful thread, what's the point of having 50 something discussions over 2 years?
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