[beyoncefan1]

Originally posted by Loghen

I already know that, but it doesn't change what I said.

Yes but dude please don't side with him. I just can't even with him for a minute.

[DejaVu]

Originally posted by Bea.

Come back to me in 2 years when no-one is interested in Adele's funeral wear and depressing music, all her songs sound too similar and the US likes variety in an artist, Adele does not have that and in 2 years she will still be making music but she will not be on the world stage. I guarantee that.

She is the definition of an 'it' girl, it doesn't mean she isn't hugely talented but she is taking advantage of a moment that will pass. Her style is not built to last in todays industry.

Girl you're the one that said Taylor is bigger than Adele WW right now. I proved you wrong. You seem upset.

[Queen Bea.]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

Your hate for Adele is astonishing. Taylor is a non-factor outside of the U.S. territory. 21 has sold 12 million copies WW and counting, more than any album by Taylor Swift. You can say that Adele is just a fad and she won't have staying power until you blue in the face, but do not sit up here and say Taylor is anything more than a U.S. superstar or that she is a bigger WW.

But her WW sales are on par with those like Rihanna and Britney Spears yet no-one is calling them local.

She doesn't have the same chart success but she is still doing sold-out world tours and moving those millions of CDs.

[RobynYoBank]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

You can say that Adele is just a fad and she won't have staying power until you blue in the face, but do not sit up here and say Taylor is anything more than a U.S. superstar or that she is a bigger WW.

No one in this thread should be concerned with WW superstardom, anyways.

[Queen Bea.]

Originally posted by DejaVu

Girl you're the one that said Taylor is bigger than Adele WW right now. I proved you wrong. You seem upset.

I never once said Taylor was bigger WW. In fact in my first post in this thread I said other pop girls blow Taylor away WW but she is dominating the US.

Next.

[Loghen]

Originally posted by beyoncefan1

Yes but dude please don't side with him. I just can't even with him for a minute.

I'm not reading many posts besides mine and yours right now.

[Ramcoro]

Lol at people talking about WW sales. The title of this thread is "...biggest popstar in the US"

[Cap10Planet]

And don't sit up in here and say anything about Adele making the same song over and over because you're describing Taylor just the same. How long will she sing lullabies and songs about her boyfriends? Her style will eventually get played, too. She can't keep singing about the crap she's writing about for too long before people move on.

[Queen Bea.]

Originally posted by Ramcoro

Lol at people talking about WW sales. The title of this thread is "...biggest popstar in the US"

I know

[ManyUses]

Like just out of nowhere, too!





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[DejaVu]

Originally posted by Bea.

I never once said Taylor was bigger WW. In fact in my first post in this thread I said other pop girls blow Taylor away WW but she is dominating the US.

Next.

You must have dementia

Originally posted by Bea.

You don't get it. Nevermind. Taylor Swift is a more successful recording artist and a bigger WW star than Adele at this moment in time. No amount of arguing will change that.

[Monroe]

Originally posted by DejaVu

Well Beyonce and Britney have proven to have staying power too. I guess they're bigger popstars than Taylor?

I agree with this actually. The original poster is picking and choosing what he wants to quantify. He isn't interested in anything dated before 2008 and he is thus cherry picking what argument he is willing to have which makes this entire thread useless. He just wanted to create a Taylor appreciation thread. The argument that is being entertained seems to be one interested in "longevity" from 2008 to present and nothing outside of that time frame. From then on he is also interested in only one market (U.S.). But he is also discounting any all chart success that other artists could find because he knows Taylor isn't very strong on the 100 (not a lot of Hot 100 success outside of debuts, no #1's to talk of and apparently no radio talk either she hasn't had a #1 airplay song in forever, etc.) so as a result he cuts off all possible contenders before they can even be brought up because he is limiting everyone to only talk to Taylor's strengths.

There is no point in debating in this thread because the argument being made collectively chooses what is "valid" to measure the biggest pop star and throws out anything that could be a determent to Taylor.

[RobynYoBank]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

And don't sit up in here and say anything about Adele making the same song over and over because you're describing Taylor just the same. How long will she sing lullabies and songs about her boyfriends? Her style will eventually get played, too. She can't keep singing about the crap she's writing about for too long before people move on.

I know I'm not the person you were talking to, but I feel like I should point out that people probably won't move on. Her albums have shown a lot of growth musically and lyrically. The fact that they address love and growing up is an overly emphasized "problem" with her music. Love is not a limiting topic: it's universal and eternal. The fact that the character of her songs has changed hugely shows that the growth is there, so I don't see people tiring of it and I don't see her stagnating as an artist.

[beyoncefan1]

Originally posted by Loghen

I'm not reading many posts besides mine and yours right now.

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

And don't sit up in here and say anything about Adele making the same song over and over because you're describing Taylor just the same. How long will she sing lullabies and songs about her boyfriends? Her style will eventually get played, too. She can't keep singing about the crap she's writing about for too long before people move on.

Yasss drag ha!

[RobynYoBank]

Originally posted by Monroe

I agree with this actually. The original poster is picking and choosing what he wants to quantify. He isn't interested in anything dated before 2008 and he is thus cherry picking what argument he is willing to have which makes this entire thread useless. He just wanted to create a Taylor appreciation thread. The argument that is being entertained in general seems to only be interested in longevity in terms of 2008 to present and then only interested in one market (U.S.) and is also discounting any all chart success that other artists could find (no Hot 100 success, no #1 talk and apparently no radio talk either, etc.) so as a result he cuts off all possible contenders before they can even be brought up. There is no point in debating in this thread because the argument collectively chooses what is "valid" to measure the biggest pop star.

I picked that because, indeed, Taylor was not around before then. If you want, you can extend the dates back several more years and you will still find that Taylor has the most radio spins and the most album sales, if that's what interests you.

p.s. This is not all about chart sales. A lot of what I wanted to emphasize is how she appears to have the evasive public presence of a Rihanna with the rabid fanbase of a Gaga. It's quite a strange combination that works incredibly well for her.

Night guys.

[DejaVu]

Originally posted by Monroe

I agree with this actually. The original poster is picking and choosing what he wants to quantify. He isn't interested in anything dated before 2008 and he is thus cherry picking what argument he is willing to have which makes this entire thread useless. He just wanted to create a Taylor appreciation thread. The argument that is being entertained in general seems to only be interested in longevity in terms of 2008 to present and then only interested in one market (U.S.) and is also discounting any all chart success that other artists could find (no Hot 100 success, no #1 talk and apparently no radio talk either, etc.) so as a result he cuts off all possible contenders before they can even be brought up. There is no point in debating in this thread because the argument collectively chooses what is "valid" to measure the biggest pop star.

Queen Monroe. I've heard so much about you on Pulse

[Loghen]

Off-topic: Why did Taylor songs suddenly explode on iTunes

[Guero]

Originally posted by Loghen

Off-topic: Why did Taylor songs suddenly explode on iTunes

They are bonus tracks just released to iTunes.

[Monroe]

Originally posted by RobynYoBank

I picked that because, indeed, Taylor was not around before then.

Taylor came out in the summer of 2006.

[DejaVu]

Originally posted by RobynYoBank

p.s. This is not all about chart sales. A lot of what I wanted to emphasize is how she appears to have the evasive public presence of a Rihanna with the rabid fanbase of a Gaga. It's quite a strange combination that works incredibly well for her.

But... she doesn't. Rihanna is inescapable from her songs to her features. As I already said, Taylor's presence has been nonexistent in the pop world for a little over a year now. Does country radio even play her much? The only time I hear Taylor songs these days is on my itunes.

The only other time I read Taylor's name in the news this era since she sold 1mil+, was recently when her nudes allegedly leaked.