Discussion: Is Taylor Swift the biggest popstar in the United States? - Page 5

RobynYoBank

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DejaVu

Adele....

RobynYoBank

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Originally posted by DejaVu

Adele....

I'll go back to the fact that if you really consider Adele a popstar, even with the unstoppable massive crossover #1 smashes and universal worship of Adele, her album sales of her best-selling album trail Fearless by well over 2 million copies. Her debut album is insignificant by comparison, as well. Also, it appears as if she's more of an it girl while Taylor has consistently dominated for the past four years since her arrival.

beyoncefan1

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Originally posted by Loghen

Grammys don't determine who's bigger and who's not (Esperanza Spalding beating Bieber, Florence and Drake, Arcade Fire beating pretty much everyone).

Yet they are the most recognizeable and prestigious award for a recording artist to win.

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Originally posted by RobynYoBank

As if that changes the fact that Taylor has already won the biggest treat the Grammy Awards have to offer at record-breaking age while also steam-rolling over Beyonce's commercial success in the last 5-6 years.

To SYG you go...now.

EDIT: Actually I do you one better.

DejaVu

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Originally posted by RobynYoBank

I'll go back to the fact that if you really consider Adele a popstar, even with the unstoppable massive crossover #1 smashes and universal worship of Adele, her album sales of her best-selling album trail Fearless by well over 2 million copies. Her debut album is insignificant by comparison, as well. Also, it appears as if she's more of an it girl while Taylor has consistently dominated for the past four years since her arrival.

If you don't wanna consider Adele a popstar then Taylor isn't either.

And isn't 21 still selling 100k+ every week? It's a bit early to tell but I don't think it'll have any problem reaching Fearless in sales. Plus Adele has pop radio on her side. Taylor does not. Adele will slay at the Grammys this year. I won't compare country awards because this poll is about pop.

Queen Bea.

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Originally posted by DejaVu

If you don't wanna consider Adele a popstar then Taylor isn't either.

And isn't 21 still selling 100k+ every week? It's a bit early to tell but I don't think it'll have any problem reaching Fearless in sales. Plus Adele has pop radio on her side. Taylor does not. Adele will slay at the Grammys this year. I won't compare country awards because this poll is about pop.

Taylor is still above Adele as Taylor has proven she has staying power and Adele has yet to prove that. I have said it before and I will say it again, people are going to get bored of Adele fast.

RobynYoBank

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Originally posted by DejaVu

If you don't wanna consider Adele a popstar then Taylor isn't either.

And isn't 21 still selling 100k+ every week? It's a bit early to tell but I don't think it'll have any problem reaching Fearless in sales. Plus Adele has radio on her side. Taylor does not. Adele will slay at the Grammys this year. I won't compare country awards because this poll is about pop.

I don't have a problem considering Adele a popstar. I think Rolling In The Deep is a massive pop song, and I believe it was created with the intent of being one. I don't doubt that 21 might outsell Fearless, either.

But, as I said, I believe Adele is much more of an it girl of this year, whereas Taylor has dominated every aspect of music in the United States (without the typical #1 hits) for the past 4 years. You say Taylor doesn't have radio on her side, but once again I'll point to the fact that in 2008, 2009 and 2010, Taylor got more radio spins than any other artist in the United States. I'm sure she'll have plenty of spins this year, as well.

beyoncefan1

Now Adele is an it girl? Boy hush and call it a night.

DejaVu

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Originally posted by Bea.

Taylor is still above Adele as Taylor has proven she has staying power and Adele has yet to prove that. I have said it before and I will say it again, people are going to get bored of Adele fast.

Well Beyonce and Britney have proven to have staying power too. I guess they're bigger popstars than Taylor?

You Taylor fans seem to be picking and choosing what makes a "popstar". Taylor may have the album sales but where is everything else this era? Where is her pop radio support? Media coverage? She's practically been nonexistent in the pop world. Her album made a big splash and made headlines then everyone forgot about her. That's not a characteristic of "the biggest popstar"

RobynYoBank

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Originally posted by DejaVu

Well Beyonce and Britney have proven to have staying power too. I guess they're bigger popstars than Taylor?

You Taylor fans seem to be picking and choosing what makes a "popstar". Taylor may have the album sales but where is everything else this era? Where is her pop radio support? Media coverage? She's practically been nonexistent in the pop world. Her album made a big splash and made headlines then everyone forgot about her. That's not a characteristic of "the biggest popstar"

I swear. If you people are going to take the time to post repeatedly in this thread, please read my ****ing OP.

Queen Bea.

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Originally posted by DejaVu

Well Beyonce and Britney have proven to have staying power too. I guess they're bigger popstars than Taylor?

You Taylor fans seem to be picking and choosing what makes a "popstar". Taylor may have the album sales but where is everything else this era? Where is her pop radio support? Media coverage? She's practically been nonexistent in the pop world. Her album made a big splash and made headlines then everyone forgot about her. That's not a characteristic of "the biggest popstar"

You don't get it. Nevermind. Taylor Swift is a more successful recording artist and a bigger WW star than Adele at this moment in time. No amount of arguing will change that.

RobynYoBank

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Originally posted by beyoncefan1

Now Adele is an it girl?

Absolutely.

DejaVu

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Originally posted by Bea.

You don't get it. Nevermind. Taylor Swift is a more successful recording artist and a bigger WW star than Adele at this moment in time. No amount of arguing will change that.

21 has sold nearly 12 million WW. Where is Speak Now at? Oh okay...

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Originally posted by RobynYoBank

I swear. If you people are going to take the time to post repeatedly in this thread, please read my ****ing OP.

I read it, I just don't think Bea did.

Ramcoro

Yea, she's not pop, but het success is pretty dam impressive.

Loghen

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Originally posted by beyoncefan1

Yet they are the most recognizeable and prestigious award for a recording artist to win.

I already know that, but it doesn't change what I said.

RobynYoBank

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Originally posted by DejaVu

I read it, I just don't think Bea did.

If you read it, then why are you posting a billion thing that I took the time to address in it while acting like I didn't.

Queen Bea.

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Originally posted by DejaVu

21 has sold nearly 12 million WW. Where is Speak Now at? Oh okay...

Come back to me in 2 years when no-one is interested in Adele's funeral wear and depressing music, all her songs sound too similar and the US likes variety in an artist, Adele does not have that and in 2 years she will still be making music but she will not be on the world stage. I guarantee that.

She is the definition of an 'it' girl, it doesn't mean she isn't hugely talented but she is taking advantage of a moment that will pass. Her style is not built to last in todays industry.

beyoncefan1

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Originally posted by DejaVu

Well Beyonce and Britney have proven to have staying power too. I guess they're bigger popstars than Taylor?

You Taylor fans seem to be picking and choosing what makes a "popstar". Taylor may have the album sales but where is everything else this era? Where is her pop radio support? Media coverage? She's practically been nonexistent in the pop world. Her album made a big splash and made headlines then everyone forgot about her. That's not a characteristic of "the biggest popstar"

Well if this his response to Adele being a so called it-girl in favor of Taylor:

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Originally posted by RobynYoBank

Absolutely.

There's no more to be said.

Cap10Planet

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Originally posted by Bea.

You don't get it. Nevermind. Taylor Swift is a more successful recording artist and a bigger WW star than Adele at this moment in time. No amount of arguing will change that.

Your hate for Adele is astonishing. Taylor is a non-factor outside of the U.S. territory. 21 has sold 12 million copies WW and counting, more than any album by Taylor Swift. You can say that Adele is just a fad and she won't have staying power until you blue in the face, but do not sit up here and say Taylor is anything more than a U.S. superstar or that she is a bigger WW.

Queen Bea.

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Originally posted by DejaVu

I read it, I just don't think Bea did.

And what exactly makes you think that? Or are you just trying to insult me because I refuse to kiss Adeles ass?