[ManDown]

Originally posted by myNAMEisJAYR

Pop Icons have the gorls hanging on their every word. Pop Icons have legions of fans who dress and try and emulate them.

I LOVE Rihanna but I've never once seen girls dressed like her... not even at her concerts.

Me either, sis. Me either.

[Deemy]

Originally posted by Wilkes

Dedication?



Yes but you are a very small group, Gaga found love in the LGBT society, Madonna similarly.

Beyonce is more varied, but she has a loveable personality. To your Mr.Jones, Rihanna is a popstar and nothing more, she makes music, she's no recognisable cultural figure with any personality.

She's not recognisable?

How is 6 Million people a small group?

[Stepfon]

Originally posted by Яeo.

Are you for real?

You have to take the case of Rihanna on its own, to try to figure out why she doesn't have a $100m+ grossing tour yet.

First, all of her tours are too short, they end after half-to-one-year. While Lady GaGa had 200+ shows on the span of two years.

Both Beyonce and Britney had much more time than Rihanna to have that $100m+ tour.

'Loud' could have been her first $100m tour if they didn't release TTT that early.

She doesn't have a #1 album in the United States. So? She still has plenty of time to get one.

Saying that she's not a Pop icon is just a damn lie and you know it. Everyone knows who Rihanna is. And actually, when you think of it. I'm glad she's famous because of her hit songs not because of her outrageous outfits.

Rihanna is a popstar, she is not a pop icon at all, the two are completely different things.

[thewaitinggame]

Originally posted by Яeo.

If they didn't like Rihanna, they wouldn't buy her albums. AND YES. Her album sales are beyond great.

I'm sorry but no. Loud only sold like 6 million in the last year. That's just "okay". Honestly if it just narrowly missed out on being a flop (which is anything less than 5.5 million btw)

The masses just don't care for her. This is a fact. This is my opinion. It's a fact.

[Wilkes]

Originally posted by Deemy

She's not recognisable?

How is 6 Million people a small group?

6 Million people on twitter, loads of people follow her just because she is a celebrity. I do.

She is not recognisable to the public as a personality, she's like a faceless popstar.

[Яeo.]

Originally posted by myNAMEisJAYR

Pop Icons have the gorls hanging on their every word. Pop Icons have legions of fans who dress and try and emulate them.

I LOVE Rihanna but I've never once seen girls dressed like her... not even at her concerts.

Stop making up your own definition of a Pop icon. I know nothing about fashion, but I know for a fact that many teens follow Rihanna's fashion sense.

And lets not act like she didn't popularize red hair.

[primo.]

Rihanna does have a personality, many of you just choose not to see it.

And if she wanted, she could easily showcase her personality in her music.

[Beatz]

Originally posted by Mélina

Everything I could possibly say and more has already been posted.

But fyi, SLANT basically doesn't like any popstar so it was only a matter of time. And they came hard.

This is not SLANT dumbass.

[G4L]

Originally posted by i spit on haters

I never said she wasn't though, I said all commercial pop stars are manufactured to some extent. It's just that Rihanna makes it painfully obvious and doesn't back it up with much talent or memeroable performances to put her on the same level as her peers. That's what the article is about.

i am not going to continue this discussion as i can already see you're going to link me to your memorable britney performances from 2001. but i am glad that you can acknowledge that your fave is manufactured to a degree just like rihanna is and most pop artists are

[Wilkes]

Originally posted by ****y On Venus

Rihanna does have a personality, many of you just choose not to see it.

And if she wanted, she could easily showcase her personality in her music.

OFC she has a personality but to Mr.Smith she doesn't express or show it.

[Mélina]

Originally posted by Deemy

This isn't even Slant.

Oh.

[Яeo.]

Originally posted by Stepfon

Rihanna is a popstar, she is not a pop icon at all, the two are completely different things.

She's a Pop icon whether you want her to be or not

[Wilkes]

Originally posted by Beatz

This is not SLANT dumbass.

TBH I thought it was Slant at first.

[Deemy]

Originally posted by i spit on haters

WHAAAAAAT!?!? so because I'm not in every ****ing Britney related thread that talks negative about her that makes me less of a fan? what are you even implying?

And Rihanna isn't a staple, she was the it girl during the GGGB era but as soon as Gaga and Katy blew up it didn't take long for Rihanna to take a back seat to them, esp. Gaga -- now if she were able to compete with her peers then it wouldn't be a problem. Which the article also alludes to.

But you are in every rihanna related thread tho. Isn't that something?

She is competing with them as she is outselling them. Yo act as if she's on Ciara type level or something. You are ****ing reaching. How would she be in the backseat if this very same article, despite lashing out on her, makes it all the more prevalent that she's in the forefront. You wouldn't be having this debacle over her if she wasn't somebody or seen as a threat. You can't be in the backseat while being one of the driving forces in pop music GLOBALLy today. Have a seat.

[Beatz]

Originally posted by Wilkes

6 Million people on twitter, loads of people follow her just because she is a celebrity. I do.

She is not recognisable to the public as a personality, she's like a faceless popstar.

Rihanna a faceless popstar? who are you trying to fool? stop acting all elitist.

[Peep Show]

Originally posted by Wilkes

6 Million people on twitter, loads of people follow her just because she is a celebrity. I do.

She is not recognisable to the public as a personality, she's like a faceless popstar.

A faceless popstar but yet a household name hmm doesn't match, sorry but you are totally reaching.

[TheOnlyOne]

Originally posted by myNAMEisJAYR

I LOVE Rihanna but I've never once seen girls dressed like her... not even at her concerts.

They can't afford it.



And who the **** are you kidding?

Did you not see ANYONE's hair in 2007-2008 when everyone was going short? Or in 09 when everyone was shaving off the sides? Or in 2010 when all these bitches were putting tomato juice on their heads?


Boo bye. You're point is inexistant.

[dcode78]

Originally posted by Яeo.

Stop making up your own definition of a Pop icon. I know nothing about fashion, but I know for a fact that many teens follow Rihanna's fashion sense.
And lets not act like she didn't popularize red hair.

Not just teens honey.. My friend is 31 and she keeps up with Rihanna's fashion sense..and my ex-coworker is 46 and loves her to DEATH! She's a fashion icon and people will deal.

[jayyyxtee]

Originally posted by iBeyoncé.

Rihanna is more talented than Gaga.

so many wrong things with this statement

[G4L]

Originally posted by Wilkes

6 Million people on twitter, loads of people follow her just because she is a celebrity. I do.

She is not recognisable to the public as a personality, she's like a faceless popstar.

he's talking about the number of copies of Loud sold. it's sold about 6 million now. does that not show that she has the attention of at least 6 million people