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Poll: More Successful Era: Teenage Dream or The Fame Monster
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View Poll Results: Which era is more successful?
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Teenage Dream
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The Fame Monster
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56.38% |
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Originally posted by TheGeoKing
Wait that's exactly what my post says though. What the actual ****?  |
The point being. You can have great digital sales, and not great airplay. Chart success equals both, so it can't be lopsided like that. In any case, your statement makes you assume digital sales and airplay are the same, when they are not.
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Originally posted by Kats
Katy did do it, it's called "Firework." The single doing better than Born This Way digitally?
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Originally posted by Kats
They are not the same thing at all. Digital sales don't equal airplay, and chart success is the total of is the combination of the two, so there isn't really a "only does well" in one or the other. Good effort.
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It's bedtime for you.
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Originally posted by IfICannot Love♥
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No hun, if your weary eyes can't see the cultural impact of "Firework" and Katy's chart success, then I think it is you who needs to take a rest. 
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Are these kids serious about Fireworks? 
And I was referring to Bad Romance. That whole single alone trumps on anything TD
did. Five #1's mean nothing if the public/the world forget about it the next day.
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Singles sales? Katy
Album sales? Gaga
Grammy Awards? Gaga
Critical acclaim? Gaga
Cultural impact? Gaga
Tours? Gaga
Bye.
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Originally posted by Kats
No hun, if your weary eyes can't see the cultural impact of "Firework" and Katy's chart success, then I think it is you who needs to take a rest. |
Firework didn't do anything like Bad Romance did. 
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Originally posted by KatyCat007
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Y'all cling to those 5 #1's like it's Jesus or something.
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Originally posted by IfICannot Love♥
Y'all cling to those 5 #1's like it's Jesus or something.
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Well, she is one of two to do so. 
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No one will remember them.
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Originally posted by Kats
Well, she is one of two to do so. |
And to be honest, they go #1 and are gone the next week.
They haven't done much. And the album's sales/charting hasn't been so amazing.
It hasn't won great awards.
It's finished.
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Originally posted by IfICannot Love♥
And to be honest, they go #1 and are gone the next week. ] |
I'm done. This speaks for itself, you are seriously clueless on what you claim to know about. I'm out.
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Originally posted by IfICannot Love♥
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Teenage Dream is over with awards. That **** is GONE. The VMA's , the Grammys, it's all out of sight for now. She's not getting any of that in 2012. The awards she has are what she's keeping and won't get any more for TD; Gaga outshines her there.
It's not fair because it's still selling? The Fame Monster still sells, hardly enough to count, but it still sells. It's beaten her WW, and it has more certifications. Single sales? Do you see what Bad Romance has done, with its success, charting and video? That enough is saying.
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Are you serious?  She has a TON of nominations at the EMAs and AMAs and likely to get a few. VERY likely to get a few Grammy nomminations. Likely to get more Billboard Awards, and TOTGA video looks like it's going to be Katy's best, so even more VMAs, and I'm sure that'll get a Grammy nomination.
You guys act like Gaga sweep the Grammys. She only got 6 nominations and 3 wins (from TFM) TD already has 4, so passing 6 noms will be easy, and I think Katy can win two next year. Best Collab and Best Music Video. Next year, she might win two more with TOTGA.
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Originally posted by ManyUses
Are these kids serious about Fireworks?
And I was referring to Bad Romance. That whole single alone trumps on anything TD
did. Five #1's mean nothing if the public/the world forget about it the next day. |
Please... Katy is the definition of longevity when it comes to her singles. 
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Originally posted by IfICannot Love♥
Firework didn't do anything like Bad Romance did. |
Yea, it didn't get **** blocked at #2 despite having the most viewed video by a female artist on YouTube, many performances, and after coming from a whole successful era.
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Originally posted by IfICannot Love♥
And to be honest, they go #1 and are gone the next week.
They haven't done much. And the album's sales/charting hasn't been so amazing.
It hasn't won great awards.
It's finished.
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The fact that it didn't go #1 and still made cultural impact speaks volumes to how successful TFM was.
You just hurt your fave with that logic.
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
Are you serious? She has a TON of nominations at the EMAs and AMAs and likely to get a few. VERY likely to get a few Grammy nomminations. Likely to get more Billboard Awards, and TOTGA video looks like it's going to be Katy's best, so even more VMAs, and I'm sure that'll get a Grammy nomination.
You guys act like Gaga sweep the Grammys. She only got 6 nominations and 3 wins (from TFM) TD already has 4, so passing 6 noms will be easy, and I think Katy can win two next year. Best Collab and Best Music Video. Next year, she might win two more with TOTGA.
Please... Katy is the definition of longevity when it comes to her singles.
Yea, it didn't get **** blocked at #2 despite having the most viewed video by a female artist on YouTube, many performances, and after coming from a whole successful era. |
And how many Grammys does she have ATM? Come on, Teenage Dream, the album itself, can't win anymore awards. We're heading into the 2012 Grammys, and it came out in 2010. That's over and done with.
Gaga still did get Grammys, no?
And there, my friend, you just confirmed the success of Bad Romance. Way to go.
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Originally posted by Kats
I'm done. This speaks for itself, you are seriously clueless on what you claim to know about. I'm out.
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I wasn't being literal.
I was pointing out how easily they're forgotten.
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
Talking worldwide, of course...
This isn't really fair because The Fame Monster was an extension of The Fame and released together with The Fame as a re-release (and the individual EP was only available in the US). Comparing album sales is useless due to that.
Singles wise Katy has the advantage obviously, and that's a big factor because pop stars are defined by the success of their singles.
Tour wise, Gaga kills Katy, no questions about it. The Fame Monster allowed her to become of the biggest touring acts in the world.
In terms of fame and cultural impact, The Fame Monster is way above Katy. Her looks, outfit, attitude during TFM have influenced pop music so much more than Katy's era. In fact one could argue TFM has influenced Katy's behaviour as a pop star significantly, from the E.T. video to her pathetic attempts at outfits (cheese block at the VMas for example).
I give the advantage to Gaga, but Teenage Dream is also a HUGE era and has turned Katy into a major star.
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All 3 on TFM's singles easily destroy those local hits and BR is bigger than any other Katy single.
Teenage Dream
E.T.
Last Friday Night
Metacritic
The Fame Monster: 77
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Teenage Dream: 53
Album sales
Here are The Fame's WW album sales before TFM rerelease:
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week position points
Week 1 40 41.000
Week 2 31 37.000
Week 3 11 61.000
Week 4 11 57.000
Week 5 13 59.000
Week 6 13 64.000
Week 7 14 75.000
Week 8 8 81.000
Week 9 5 93.000
Week 10 3 110.000
Week 11 7 122.000
Week 12 4 131.000
Week 13 7 126.000
Week 14 4 147.000
Week 15 3 156.000
Week 16 3 122.000
Week 17 4 121.000
Week 18 5 118.000
Week 19 3 115.000
Week 20 3 109.000
Week 21 3 119.000
Week 22 4 109.000
Week 23 4 108.000
Week 24 8 109.000
Week 25 6 110.000
Week 26 11 100.000
Week 27 11 103.000
Week 28 13 99.000
Week 29 11 95.000
Week 30 11 93.000
Week 31 10 87.000
Week 32 10 80.000
Week 33 10 81.000
Week 34 8 76.000
Week 35 12 71.000
Week 36 15 65.000
Week 37 27 61.000
Week 38 20 72.000
Week 39 15 62.000
Week 40 26 61.000
Week 41 26 54.000
Week 42 18 51.000
Week 43 17 49.000
Week 44 22 47.000
Week 45 23 51.000
Week 46 25 52.000
Week 47 25 65.000
TOTAL (47 weeks): 4.103.000
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The 8-track-EP album outsells Katy's whole discography both WW and in the country she's kinda popular in.
Tours
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Grammys
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The answer is obvious. 
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