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Poll: More Successful Era: Teenage Dream or The Fame Monster
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View Poll Results: Which era is more successful?
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Teenage Dream
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43.62% |
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The Fame Monster
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56.38% |
Member Since: 3/13/2011
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Originally posted by MrPeanut
Glee did a Gaga EPISODE at the end of TFM era.  |
But they only covered one song of hers and even the BTW number got over shadowed by TLC's Unpretty. 
In all seriousness though they both got three Glee covers.
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Member Since: 4/3/2011
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Originally posted by =NEX=
So TFM (inflated) single sales stand ~15-16m WW, when TD accurate single sales are over 20m in the US alone, not to mention WW figures and that TD era hasn't finished yet and 6th single is about to enter itunes top 10.
TFM itself sold around 4-5m max TD probably around the same.
(And no TF + TFM combined is barely at 13m WW, not 17m, mediatraffic/soundscan numbers >>> gagascan numbers) ,
TD was nominated for Album of the Year, so was TFM.
Katy hasn't finished touring yet, so we don't know how she'll gross.
BR is iconic, but "iconic" is very flexible. BR is iconic for some, CG or ET is iconic for others. It's just a matter of opinion. Lets keep the argument objective and stick with numbers.
Not a stan of any of the 2, but to me, TD absolutely obliterates TFM to the ground.
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What are the worldwide sales for their singles?
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by =NEX=
So TFM (inflated) single sales stand ~15-16m WW, when TD accurate single sales are over 20m in the US alone, not to mention WW figures and that TD era hasn't finished yet and 6th single is about to enter itunes top 10.
TFM itself sold around 4-5m max, TD probably around the same.
(And no TF + TFM combined is barely at 13m WW, not 17m, mediatraffic/soundscan numbers >>> gagascan numbers)
TD was nominated for Album of the Year, so was TFM.
Katy hasn't finished touring yet, so we don't know how she'll gross, besides gaga's 2 is more like 2 tours combined: The Fame Ball + The Monster Ball, so it shouldn't even count. It's the same if Katy will continue touring with her next album and combine the total with this album's tour.
BR is iconic, but "iconic" is very flexible. BR is iconic for some, CG or ET is iconic for others. It's just a matter of opinion. Lets keep the argument objective and stick with numbers.
Not a stan of any of the 2, but to me, TD absolutely obliterates TFM to the ground.
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Mediatraffic is website that is based on estimations. It doesn't even include every chart worldwide.
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Member Since: 6/2/2011
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Talking worldwide, of course...
This isn't really fair because The Fame Monster was an extension of The Fame and released together with The Fame as a re-release (and the individual EP was only available in the US). Comparing album sales is useless due to that.
Singles wise Katy has the advantage obviously, and that's a big factor because pop stars are defined by the success of their singles.
Tour wise, Gaga kills Katy, no questions about it. The Fame Monster allowed her to become of the biggest touring acts in the world.
In terms of fame and cultural impact, The Fame Monster is way above Katy. Her looks, outfit, attitude during TFM have influenced pop music so much more than Katy's era. In fact one could argue TFM has influenced Katy's behaviour as a pop star significantly, from the E.T. video to her pathetic attempts at outfits (cheese block at the VMas for example).
I give the advantage to Gaga, but Teenage Dream is also a HUGE era and has turned Katy into a major star.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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The Fame was more successful the The Fame Monster. 
TD ***** on TFM.
More album sales.
More single sales.
Soon to have more Grammy nominations.
Possibly get more Grammy awards.
Much longer longevity.
YouTube views are quickly going to surpass hers from that era, and will be ******** on them there after.
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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Originally posted by =NEX=
So TFM (inflated) single sales stand ~15-16m WW, when TD accurate single sales are over 20m in the US alone, not to mention WW figures and that TD era hasn't finished yet and 6th single is about to enter itunes top 10.
TFM itself sold around 4-5m max, TD probably around the same.
(And no TF + TFM combined is barely at 13m WW, not 17m, mediatraffic/soundscan numbers >>> gagascan numbers)
TD was nominated for Album of the Year, so was TFM.
Katy hasn't finished touring yet, so we don't know how she'll gross, besides gaga's 2 is more like 2 tours combined: The Fame Ball + The Monster Ball, so it shouldn't even count. It's the same if Katy will continue touring with her next album and combine the total with this album's tour.
BR is iconic, but "iconic" is very flexible. BR is iconic for some, CG or ET is iconic for others. It's just a matter of opinion. Lets keep the argument objective and stick with numbers.
Not a stan of any of the 2, but to me, TD absolutely obliterates TFM to the ground.
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 YOU ALWAYS HATE. SO YOUR OPINION CAlculations are THEREFORE DECLARED IRRELEVANT.you biased as usual ,thats why you so blind. You see GAGA and your hate skills get alert.
TOO ADD ON TOP HER LEGION OF LITTLE MONSTERS IS FULL PROOF OF TFM'S SUCCESS. I dont see Katy impacting the same way. 
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by Monroe
What are the worldwide sales for their singles?
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Who knows. WW sales for singles hardly gets published by "legit sources".
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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Originally posted by Darren-5-08
Mediatraffic is website that is based on estimations. It doesn't even include every chart worldwide.
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Still more accurate than Gaga's tweeter
They cover about 95% of global sales.
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Katy has the US #1s
but Gaga has the album sales, the successful tour, the Grammys and the Global impact 
And TFM sold around 8M Not 4-5M 
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
The Fame was more successful the The Fame Monster.
TD ***** on TFM.
More album sales.
More single sales.
Soon to have more Grammy nominations.
Possibly get more Grammy awards.
Much longer longevity.
YouTube views are quickly going to surpass hers from that era, and will be ******** on them there after. |
TD was nominated for Grammys last year, so surely it isn't eligible for further nominations.
As far as album sales go, TD has sold less than 4M worldwide. TF+TFM is over 16M, and the majority of those sales came from the re-release.
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Originally posted by =NEX=
Still more accurate than Gaga's tweeter
They cover about 95% of global sales.
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One of the most reliable chart trackers has TFM at over 16M. I'd go with that rather than Mediatraffic.
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
The Fame was more successful the The Fame Monster.
TD ***** on TFM.
More album sales.
More single sales.
Soon to have more Grammy nominations.
Possibly get more Grammy awards.
Much longer longevity.
YouTube views are quickly going to surpass hers from that era, and will be ******** on them there after. |
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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Originally posted by L.B GAGA
YOU ALWAYS HATE. SO YOUR OPINION CAlculations are THEREFORE DECLARED IRRELEVANT.you biased as usual ,thats why you so blind. You see GAGA and your hate skills get alert.
TOO ADD ON TOP HER LEGION OF LITTLE MONSTERS IS FULL PROOF OF TFM'S SUCCESS. I dont see Katy impacting the same way. |
Do I know you. Where did "you always hate" even come from?
I like Gaga & Katy equally. They are both on the same line in my sig.
I just dont like delusion & inflating numbers. And lil monsters are known for being guilty of both.
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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Originally posted by Darren-5-08
One of the most reliable chart trackers has BTW at over 16M. I'd go with that rather than Mediatraffic.
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Oh god.. Im out of here.. I can deal with delusion, but not with something like this...
BTW hasn't even crossed 5m WW.... and you are pushing 16m...
bye girls. have fun inflating the numbers into oblivion.
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Originally posted by Darren-5-08
TD was nominated for Grammys last year, so surely it isn't eligible for further nominations.
As far as album sales go, TD has sold less than 4M worldwide. TF+TFM is over 16M, and the majority of those sales came from the re-release.
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TD has sold 4,4 million WW.Just to make that clear.  
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by =NEX=
Oh god.. Im out of here.. I can deal with delusion, but not with something like this...
BTW hasn't even crossed 5m WW.... and you are pushing 16m...
bye girls. have fun inflating the numbers into oblivion.
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I meant TFM.
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Glee did Bad Romance & Telephone
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Member Since: 6/13/2010
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Originally posted by BASS
5 #1 singles SO FAR.. enough said. |
Yet, Gaga had none and was still very successful. #1 singles are pretty much irrelevant in this argument.
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by =NEX=
Do I know you. Where did "you always hate" even come from?
I like Gaga & Katy equally. They are both on the same line in my sig.
I just dont like delusion & inflating numbers. And lil monsters are known for being guilty of both.
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Now who the hell said a social forum is a place for knowing people  . Stop DOWNGRADING GAGA when you can see clearly that her impact is huge.( FORBES MAGAZINE) can assist you TO SEE THE LIGHT. 
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