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Discussion: Britney vs. Xtina: The Next 10 Years
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Originally posted by Hi.Def
FF is a good album and I bop to it on a daily basis, but as far as mature sound? And I don't understand how Britney can ever mature "her" sound because it honestly isn't mature. And then they want to bring up Madonna. I'm not a Madonna stan but some of the songs people are always mentioning by her are songs I'd never expect her to do. Plus it took her less time to get into a mature sound than Britney. People can throw up "Slave" and "Toxic" all day and while they remain a step up from her usual material they aren't anything you wouldn't expect from her.
People can also talk about Xtina and how she apparently jumps genres just to remain relevant but she does it very well.
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IA with the Madonna stuff.
How does Christina do it well? With every Xtina "reinvention," her sales have declined more sharply. Back to Basic sold 1/4 what Stripped did, and Bionic sold 1/6 of that! People don't seem interested in "Christina the artist." They don't take her seriously, despite her impressive voice.
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Member Since: 4/3/2011
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
Honey, aren't you a bit... Late? Isn't it a little 1999 to complain about Britney being talentless and Christina being the unrecognized, talented one? For most of the past thirteen years, Britney has been outselling her and out-grossing her, so this just comes off as bitter. The public has spoken.
I'm not saying that can't change, but to use the tired "talent" argument so blindly is really not helping your cause.
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How can you being tired of talent ? Isnt that what matter after all ? 
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Member Since: 11/20/2010
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We all know, Britney Spears could succeed on her own. The question remains, could Christina Aguilera slay the music business again without depending on someone else for a hit single? To be continued....
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
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Originally posted by Foxaylove
The only complete album to have a mature sound to it for the most part was "In The Zone". You could've seen that vividly in such tracks as "Touch Of My Hand", "Breathe On Me" and why Toxic was a dance track, it most certainly was a mature sounding dance track. Yes sex was heavily mentioned through the album, but you see such things all the time in some Pop girls best albums. I love love love the "Velvet Rope" album by Janet and it's full of sex in that album, yet still praised by critics. ITZ which is the album Britney had the most involvement with in composing, writing and decision making in that era throughout. It was easily her most experimental album to date with the various sounds and genres found on that album.
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I always keep forgetting to get into ITZ. I believe it had some of my most favorite Britney songs. I'm sure Britney can bring out a different sound but at this stage in her life is she even thinking anything like that. As someone stated earlier she's all about her kids these days.
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Originally posted by Nicole
It hurt her in the short run, but it might serve her well in the long run.
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If she hadn't tried to hop into dance/pop like the other girls with Bionic then whatever other sound she would've jumped into probably would've work to her advantage. 
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Member Since: 6/15/2009
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Originally posted by Foxaylove
I don't expect much of a change to what we have seen from her the previous three albums, not unless Britney takes it in her hands to be pro-active in the album. I already know she always has a different vision of how she sees things than her label, because God only knows they heads all the time in the past, especially during the ITZ days.
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I don't expect much of a change either but in terms of success I think it'll be much more successful than FF since it'll most likely be a Q4 release and that has always helped out Britney a lot.
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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Originally posted by ****y On Venus
Perhaps, but would her fans rally behind it.
I mean, some of her stans are in here saying she doesn't have to try a new sound, which leads me to belive that if she went after a more mature sound, her fans probably wouldn't care for it.
Hell, there wasn't one ballad on Femme Fatale.
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The people here are saying she doesn't to try a new sound to be successful, since that is what you're bringing up (and if the buying public would care for it). In reality, majority of us very much enjoy the more mature demos/unreleased tracks she does, and hope she will release an album like that - instead of them being discarded in favor of the appealing cuts. That's up to Britney to step up though. Keep up.
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Member Since: 6/15/2010
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Originally posted by Hi.Def
Plus it took her less time to get into a mature sound than Britney. People can throw up "Slave" and "Toxic" all day and while they remain a step up from her usual material they aren't anything you wouldn't expect from her.
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That's true, but to be fair she started out when she was 25, as opposed to Britney being 17 so it's kinda expected.
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Member Since: 11/6/2010
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Originally posted by ****y On Venus
I think we all have different interpretations of what trying a new sound is.
I'm talking about hearing a side of Britney the public has never seen. NO DANCE TRACKS, NO ELECTRONIC BEATS and NO UPTEMPO SONGS.
If we're talking about a more refined and mature sound, based solely on vocals, can Britney do that? |
Everytime and Someday i will understand are two mature tracks which she co-produced.composed and wrote.
And her current single Criminal may not be 'mature' but it's none of the things you listed (in capitals).
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Originally posted by ****y On Venus
Perhaps, but would her fans rally behind it.
I mean, some of her stans are in here saying she doesn't have to try a new sound, which leads me to belive that if she went after a more mature sound, her fans probably wouldn't care for it.
Hell, there wasn't one ballad on Femme Fatale.
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Maybe not. But I've personally been waiting for it, because I know what she's capable of, and it's more than Circus or Femme Fatale has let her be.
And considering the surefire smash that FF was supposed to be and wasn't, it probably wouldn't hurt to try something else. It might even win her over new fans from the general public that have otherwise dismissed her and her abilities.
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Member Since: 5/17/2010
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You guys keep mentioning Madonna, but Britney and Madonna are for more different than they are alike.
By the time Madonna was tens years into her career, she was making music worlds apart from her original sound.
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Long ass threads like this that happen while I'm at work piss me off. I will be returning to this thread tonight to read up and EL OH EL at the comments. 
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
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Originally posted by FreeBitch
Instead i want you to put me the list of HOW MANY LEGENDS and Well respected Artists Britney share the same stage with ? 
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Several celebrities have praised Britney, from other singers to actors and song writers. Michael himself has co-signed Britney and even picked out her outfit at the 01 VMAs
"There are aspects about her that I recognize in myself when I first started out in my career. I also admire her talent as an artist" - Madonna.
Let me know when Madonna bows down and kisses the hand of your fave while in her presence. 
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by ****y On Venus
You guys keep mentioning Madonna, but Britney and Madonna are for more different than they are alike.
By the time Madonna was tens years into her career, she was making music worlds apart from her original sound.
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People forget how big "Take a Bow" was, for example, and that was a miles away from "Like a Virgin" or "Vogue."
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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Originally posted by .::Andreita::.
The fact that this topic still being so debatable speaks for itself.
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Is this shading Christina in that it's now completely about Britney?
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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Originally posted by FreeBitch
How can you being tired of talent ? Isnt that what matter after all ?
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It went right over your head, hon.
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
IA with the Madonna stuff.
How does Christina do it well? With every Xtina "reinvention," her sales have declined more sharply. Back to Basic sold 1/4 what Stripped did, and Bionic sold 1/6 of that! People don't seem interested in "Christina the artist." They don't take her seriously, despite her impressive voice.
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With the exception of Bionic (even though it has some good tracks) I think she's always manage to find her place in music even with all of her "genre hopping"
You can argue she's never really had any huge and iconic songs unlike Britney who has quite a few, but Christina's music for the most part is good and memorable. It may be contrived, but at the music is good.
The public just probably didn't latch on with the genre hopping of it until the Lady Gaga thing. 
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Member Since: 6/15/2010
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
It went right over your head, hon.
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Member Since: 4/3/2011
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Madonna and Micheal ? That's all ??! Talk about the epitome of Talent 
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Member Since: 9/7/2008
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
Is this shading Christina in that it's now completely about Britney? |
I've been hearing this debate since day one...still a very hot topic... 
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Member Since: 5/17/2010
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Whatever.
I guess as long as people are purchasing the music, artistic growth is irrelevant.
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