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Discussion: "Manufactured" Artists
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Originally posted by Vin
I want a better understanding of the word "manufactured." For me, the ability to see an artist as a human being and not as a celebrity makes them less manufactured. I see Britney Spears as a human being. I see Beyoncé as Beyoncé -- a megastar. Videos of her dancing as a child and her "personal moment" scenes during "I Am.. World Tour" just seem placed to me. Not saying that it's not genuine, but it feels very planned and put together. I don't feel like I know her, and that's perfectly fine, but it comes off more manufactured, e.g. to always be perfect in the public eye. And again, that's perfectly fine.
In any case, that's just my personal definition of the word manufactured.
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Originally posted by FreeBitch
And Rihanna who dont even write her own songs isnt manufactured according to you ? 
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Did I say she wasn't?
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Originally posted by A Muse
Selena is worse. She didn't even WANT to be a singer. Hollywood Records and Disney had to persuade her. At least Justin actually worked for his musical success. |
LOL, I didn't know that. No wonder I've never seen her promote outside of Disney Channel.
Teens are always the most manufactured. Because that market is so... predictable.
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Vin
you shouldn't feel like you know Britney, so it's no wonder you don't feel like you know Bey.
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Originally posted by Blueberry Kisses
I honestly think Katy Perry doesn't have an OUNCE of originality in her entire body. It's her looks and her producers that basically do all the work.
Report this if you must, but it's my OPINION. I recognize that she does write. But it's not particularly amazing. There are plenty of people in the world with better vocals and capability, Katy just has that "look" and they built a singer around that. Same with Jessica Simpson tbh since she doesn't appear able to do anything...
I suppose Bey was towards the beginning of her career, but she just achieved such a level of success that now she does her own thing, and it's truly BEYONCE. She acquired fame through her intense vocals, striking looks, and massive amounts of star quality which has to stem from SOME actual talent. Therefor she is NOT completely manufactured.
Britney is an enigma. We can't deny the obvious lack of powerhouse vocals, but her voice is very unique and she was an incredible dancer when she first started out. She's a capable pianist and a competent song writer. We don't really KNOW much else since we have no evidence, but people seem to say she's rather in control of her career so I'll leave that one alone.
Gaga, yes. But not in a bad way. She wanted to be this kind of classic rock n' roll chick before Rob Fusari told her to hike up her skirt and use a drum machine, so she did. She has some kind of incredible IT factor, on top of striking looks, fantastic song writing skills, and great vocals. She was a ready-born star, and her label just pushed her to make her ideas bigger and bolder, and that became her schtick. SUPPORT OF THE GAY COMMUNITY WAS ABSOLUTELY HER OWN IDEA. No record label in 2008 would willingly tell their new up-and-comer to back the LGBT community, really. The Madonna similarities emerged later, AFTER that. Nobody compared Just Dance to Madonna unless they were deranged, which is my opinion, but I will leave it at that.
And Christina just kind of fell off the map cause she was manufactured in the wrong way.
There's no such thing as a COMPLETELY non-manufactured mainstream artist, they're not just BORN with a niche in pop music. Someone has to help them along the way, be that the label or their peers. Where they go from there is the defining element.
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I think Rihanna has to answer to higher-ups for sure & obviously she doesn't write as much as she should, but I have never viewed her as a puppet. Didn't she want the drastic image change with GGGB herself?
Plus, her Twitter outbursts would NEVER happen if her label controlled her completely. And she seems involved in her music regardless of the writing credits.
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I honestly think Rihanna is the most manufactured Pop artist. The entire wardrobe, hair, and sound change every 12 or even less months...
But at least she is raw with her public persona. Even though it is a bit over bearing at times and at times comes off a bit '~I'm bad~".
EDIT: @MuicTalker I basically just said what you said, at the same time, but in a pessimist's view
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Originally posted by Vin
I want a better understanding of the word "manufactured." For me, the ability to see an artist as a human being and not as a celebrity makes them less manufactured. I see Britney Spears as a human being. I see Beyoncé as Beyoncé -- a megastar. Videos of her dancing as a child and her "personal moment" scenes during "I Am.. World Tour" just seem placed to me. Not saying that it's not genuine, but it feels very planned and put together. I don't feel like I know her, and that's perfectly fine, but it comes off more manufactured, e.g. to always be perfect in the public eye. And again, that's perfectly fine.
In any case, that's just my personal definition of the word manufactured.
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You're talking about her public persona/celebrity. Which yes, may be manufactured because she wants it that way. But I wouldn't say Beyonce is more manufactured than Britney, not currently. Look at their interviews, some days Britney is completely out of it.
most people in here seem to be discussing from the perspective of a music artist.
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Originally posted by Vin
I want a better understanding of the word "manufactured." For me, the ability to see an artist as a human being and not as a celebrity makes them less manufactured. I see Britney Spears as a human being. I see Beyoncé as Beyoncé -- a megastar. Videos of her dancing as a child and her "personal moment" scenes during "I Am.. World Tour" just seem placed to me. Not saying that it's not genuine, but it feels very planned and put together. I don't feel like I know her, and that's perfectly fine, but it comes off more manufactured, e.g. to always be perfect in the public eye. And again, that's perfectly fine.
In any case, that's just my personal definition of the word manufactured.
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The reason you see Britney as a "human being" is because her personal troubles overshadowed everything and her personal life was such a mess that the paparazzi followed her everyday moves b/c she acted in ways that attracted them (I don't need to go into detail there).
Before then, Britney was a supposed virgin in a Catholic school outfit who tried her damnest to provoke and get everyone hot and bothered. That all was VERY planned and put together.
Not exposing your personal life and being a singer first and foremost =/= being manufactured. No one knows who Meryl Streep is and the details of her personal life are always kept private. You know her b/c she's an actress and for no other reason. Was she manufactured by the studios?
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Xtina barely has any manufactured qualities. She's truly 1 bad bitch.
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Originally posted by Deemy
Did I say she wasn't?
OK.
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Even does my fave doesnt write most of her songs, she's not Manuactured because she calls the shots.
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Originally posted by Nicole
Vin, you ask us the question but you don't give us your thoughts on the matter.
How is Beyonce more manufactored than Britney?
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Because my thoughts always create meltdowns.
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Most teenager pop-rock/pop-punk bands or scene emo bands.
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Originally posted by IWasHere
Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj, Kelly Rowland, Rihanna, Britney Spears etc are all manufactured artists.
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How is Nicki manufactured when she writes all her music? Decides her own singles and such?
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Originally posted by GeezusHaberdash
most people in here seem to be discussing from the perspective of a music artist.
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Right. I thought we were discussing the musical side of things, not their private lives. And speaking of that Beyoncé keeps her incredibly private, so of course you're not gonna feel like you know her but IDK how that even relates to the question he asked.
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Originally posted by popstar
Most teenager pop-rock/pop-punk bands or scene emo bands.
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Well they are the post-boyband version of the boyband.
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Member Since: 10/18/2009
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The real question should be which successful pop gurl isn't manufactured? 
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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Originally posted by EastCoastTM
How is Nicki manufactured when she writes all her music? Decides her own singles and such? |
If you want to get into a before and after war, that's fine, but you should know that people are about to come at your throat for this one...
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by Blueberry Kisses
Katy just has that "look" and they built a singer around that. Same with Jessica Simpson tbh since she doesn't appear able to do anything...
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Please. There a million girls that looks just as good if not better that would want to become an artist. No one cares what someone looks like when they are l istening to them. It helps actresses, because you have to look at them. There is a reason why Katy Perry's music and Jessica Simpson's wasn't.
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
Please. There a million girls that looks just as good if not better that would want to become an artist. No one cares what someone looks like when they are listening to them. It helps actresses, because you have to look at them. There is a reason why Katy Perry's music and Jessica Simpson's wasn't.
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What on earth is going on with some of this post 
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