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Discussion: What happened to Rihanna?
Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by Jolie's Lips
Well, the USA is the biggest music market. And I bet a lot of those Facebook followers are from America. Do those followers have no spare change in their pockets to see Rih live?
And what about Brazil? The venues seemed to be quite empty there as.
Or is Rihanna the MEGA internatinal act that she is if only the Navy gets to choose which countries are a part of the world?
So many questions. Barely any answers.
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She's extremely popular and successful in the United States - maybe not as astronomically successful as some of the other girls - but she is. She's a force in the U.S. But not even just that, but I found it curious how he refused to acknowledge any other countries EXCEPT the U.S. when Rihanna has become a force nearly everywhere else.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by Hi.Def
Someone told me Rihanna tweeted something negative about LOUD. Does she even like the album? 
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She likes it more than Rated R. 
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Member Since: 9/18/2011
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
She likes it more than Rated R. |
Now sis, you know Rihanna was lying when she said that. 
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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Bringing up other artists isn't going to change reality. Rihanna's gotten lazy way too early. She's enjoying the fruits, rather working harder to really implement herself for real. That's why it was so easy for Katy & GaGa to come and take her sales when they did - because she didn't work hard enough during her prime. She doesn't dance, seemingly has no desire to learn to allow herself to gain the respect of having a stage presence. She isn't a songwriter. I'll give her thumbs up on her vocals improving since she came out, though.
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
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Originally posted by ririlurker
Rihanna also comes up with the concept of EVERY VIDEO, she stated it many times. She comes up with the concept, send it to directors, and chooses the ones best fit her concept.
She co-directed many of her videos, pretty sure she is the main of WFL judging from the pics.
The only thing she needs to do a bit more is songwriting, I am sure she did that in this 6th album. Loud was quick and probably just an exception.
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I don't believe she does, I've been in several arguments with Rihanna stans and they NEVER brought this **** up, I even asked a Rihanna stan to explain to me how is Rihanna talented...he told me to go listen to Rated R (which isn't saying much) -- he couldn't even explain what makes Rihanna musically talented. I think you're serving me luke warm water, not tea. And I don't want any. 
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Member Since: 11/11/2010
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
Girl, please. You did not come here "just to state your opinion". You came here to argue.
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That's an understatement. He's in every Rihanna thread to flamebait. 
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Originally posted by Hi.Def
Someone told me Rihanna tweeted something negative about LOUD. Does she even like the album?
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Member Since: 5/23/2010
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Originally posted by Rîh.røx.
NOOOOOO sis. What did Britney do on Femme Fatale? What did she contribute to? What does she like about the album besides "its cool." When did she play piano on recordings? Where are her choreographed videos this era?
Rihanna wrote half of Rated R. Created the image and sound. Picked the fashion for her tour, was hands on. Rihanna co-directed DSTP and Disturbia. She also came up with the S&M video concept and Man Down.
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Sis, what's the tea on you having to skip back to Rated R to combat against Femme Fatale? Like do you already know that Rihanna's involvement on Loud was minuscule and is only getting smaller judging by the lead single off her new album? You're acting as if Rihanna is some original bitch when half of the **** she's done has been subject to copyright infringement. Let's not do it. 
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Member Since: 5/3/2010
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And I love the bitches in here that have the inside scoop over at Death Jam or something, with all of their "She only writes one or two lines", "she only gets that creative director title because Def Jam buys it for her" Like honestly, I wish I had the bug you guys have.
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Member Since: 8/23/2010
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If she wants to do fun and superficial music, let her be. Plus it is not like her previous albums were profound masterpieces, she is in her lane, the one her label crafted for her. Rated R was actually the one that was different from the rest not the other way around so I don't get that "old" rihana thing and even that was not really "deep".
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by Cheers
Now sis, you know Rihanna was lying when she said that. |
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Originally posted by ManDown
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She doesn't hate Loud at all. She just said what ManDown posted in the screesnhot because she likes the new album better than Loud and probably finds Loud repulsive in comparison. She's made it obvious in both interviews and on Twitter that she likes every album she releases more than the previous one.
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Member Since: 10/19/2010
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
I don't believe she does, I've been in several arguments with Rihanna stans and they NEVER brought this **** up, I even asked a Rihanna stan to explain to me how is Rihanna talented...he told me to go listen to Rated R (which isn't saying much) -- he couldn't even explain what makes Rihanna musically talented. I think you're serving me luke warm water, not tea. And I don't want any. |
gurl, yes she does, she stated that. You are very ignorant, and honestly, I am not here for your desperate trolling.
In the meantime, Rihanna is going to sell at least 5 million albums more and get recognition and grammys in the process
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Member Since: 8/10/2010
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I hate to bring madonna in this, but....True Blue was her fun album, but she was still hands on in the production and songwriting. Most of the songs were lovey dovey, happy, young and fresh, but were superior in quality. That just goes to show you that rihanna can still make "fun, happy" songs while STILL being creative and actually having more involvement in the album. I just want rihanna to get more respect and be taken seriously as an artist. The only way that can happen is if she stops letting everyone do things for her.
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Member Since: 11/11/2010
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Originally posted by Rigalo
And I love the bitches in here that have the inside scoop over at Death Jam or something, with all of their "She only writes one or two lines", "she only gets that creative director title because Def Jam buys it for her" Like honestly, I wish I had the bug you guys have.
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I know, right? Until I see some papers proving that they work for Def Jam and know the tea on how many words and letters Rihanna contributes to her songs, their point is invalid.
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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Originally posted by Rigalo
I also think that it's worth mentioning that Rihanna probably just isn't in the lane to make overly mature / deep music. She's 23. While Katy, Bey, and Brit are nearing 30 and probably should be making more mature music, I don't think it's fair to automatically assume the same from Rihanna.
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For me personally, it doesn't even have to be a "deep" or "mature" record. She is young. Britney recorded and put together In The Zone at 23. The album is nothing but about ****ing and clubbing, appropriate for her age you'd say - but it actually sounds like a mature album she put her all into. In terms of the production, her inclusion in actually being involved in the writing (i.e. not listed last in every song credit), and exploring with producers about the ideas and concepts she had at that time in her life.
Rihanna just seems so unrelated and impersonal to the music she's making. Bar Rated R, of course. But if she has to get abused to make something like that, then ch.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by Onen
I hate to bring madonna in this, but....True Blue was her fun album, but she was still hands on in the production and songwriting. Most of the songs were lovey dovey, happy, young and fresh, but were superior in quality. That just goes to show you that rihanna can still make "fun, happy" songs while STILL being creative and actually having more involvement in the album. I just want rihanna to get more respect and be taken seriously as an artist. The only way that can happen is if she stops letting everyone do things for her.
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How many times do we have to say that writing is not the be all, end all for creativity and involvement?
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
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Originally posted by crumprKID
I really don't want to sound like a bitch or flaimebait or whatever cause I really like you. So in my nicest way: What has Rihanna contributed artistically? Her visuals that many of her fans give her credit for are usually copied out of editorials (LOUD Album Booklet/S&M/Only Girl). I've seen a video of Brit discussing her video concept with the Director (which she didn't get sued for). She also hasn't written herself a song. Didn't Brit Brit write herself Everytime? I don't know of and can't really think of anymore but I don't see how it is so laughable that Brit has contibuted more to her 'image/sound' than Rihanna.
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YAS!!!! TELL HIM! Britney has written/co-written more songs than just 'Everytime' but we won't get into that because this thread isn't about her. Certain members of the Navy still haven't gotten that yet. 
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Member Since: 5/18/2011
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Originally posted by Onen
I hate to bring madonna in this, but....True Blue was her fun album, but she was still hands on in the production and songwriting. Most of the songs were lovey dovey, happy, young and fresh, but were superior in quality. That just goes to show you that rihanna can still make "fun, happy" songs while STILL being creative and actually having more involvement in the album. I just want rihanna to get more respect and be taken seriously as an artist. The only way that can happen is if she stops letting everyone do things for her.
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
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Originally posted by EarlyMorning
Sis, what's the tea on you having to skip back to Rated R to combat against Femme Fatale? Like do you already know that Rihanna's involvement on Loud was minuscule and is only getting smaller judging by the lead single off her new album? You're acting as if Rihanna is some original bitch when half of the **** she's done has been subject to copyright infringement. Let's not do it. |
I love my fellow Britney stans.
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Member Since: 9/18/2011
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But girls....who is forcing you to stan for Rihanna? If you don't like her music, move on. You aren't tied down to her
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Member Since: 10/13/2008
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
Bringing up other artists isn't going to change reality. Rihanna's gotten lazy way too early. She's enjoying the fruits, rather working harder to really implement herself for real. That's why it was so easy for Katy & GaGa to come and take her sales when they did - because she didn't work hard enough during her prime. She doesn't dance, seemingly has no desire to learn to allow herself to gain the respect of having a stage presence. She isn't a songwriter. I'll give her thumbs up on her vocals improving since she came out, though.
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Are you joking? Shes implemented choreography in her tour for the first time since...ever.
Have you seen either LGOE Tour or Loud tour? If you saw both you would see the VAST improvment of her movement skills.
She has been on tour and promoting other singles for the past two albums. It would be impossible to also write all her songs, do tons of choreography and release an album, she'd....die.
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