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Rihanna doesn't write her own music, so that means she has no control over her career? 
MOST artists don't (really) write their own music
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Originally posted by BASS
I'm sorry but making a few desicions is like.. nothing. No Doubt is still working in the album and we've been waiting for years ! i think if they're releasing new stuff so fast, it might be because they care nothing but the sales $$$$$ And to make her make (and the stans) they let her decide what to wear.. Sideshow Bob wig in example  |
Ok time doesn't mean anything... People have waited years to make albums, and they've turned out to be crap. Everyone is a different person, therefore they will not work the same way as others do. Especially in a band, which is a terrible comparison to use.
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Originally posted by Hi.Def
You didn't provide evidence, and that's exactly why no one believes it. Rihanna stans will tell you themselves they don't stan for Rihanna because she's some deep artist who pours her heart and soul into the studio for months at at time perfecting her album. She makes good/catchy disposable pop music that they can relate to. Her input is limited and if you think it isn't then you're a fool. 
Anyway, I'm sure this new album will be good. All of Rihanna's albums are. I personally don't have a problem with Rihanna's rushed releases, but anyone could see why people would have a problem.
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I did, and you refuse to believe.
As I said earlier, they don't just hand out Executive Producer credits.
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Originally posted by thegmangrant
Let's get things straight once and for all. You all can try to deny, but you will be wrong. Don't let your hate for Rihanna make your thinking power not work.
Rihanna has been the executive producers of her past two albums. That means she:
Meets with Producers on what she wants (or in Rated R's case she actually co-wrote most of the album)
She chooses what songs go on the albums (She hated Who's That Chick, and it didn't make the final cut. There you go).
She also was the art director of Loud, and comes up with concepts and directs her own videos.
Rihanna is in control of her career. She loves recording music, and she will slow down when she wants to. You all will deal. And her albums are always quality too,and they have a new flavor each time.
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Rihanna won't get burned out b/c (1) her music is great and (2) she's not that involved in its creation.
Being an EP means nothing. Some people get an automatic contractual EP credit. Her job duties as an EP are just speculation on your part. This article, which I always post when this topic arises and which always gets swept under the rug, is NOT speculation: http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/...ake-a-hit-song
So she's fine putting out annual albums. I look forward to more S&Ms and Umbrellas.
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Originally posted by PopBoi
Rihanna doesn't write her own music, so that means she has no control over her career?
MOST artists don't (really) write their own music |
I've never understood that either 
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Originally posted by PopBoi
Rihanna doesn't write her own music, so that means she has no control over her career?
MOST artists don't (really) write their own music |
she has control, she decides the wigs for her shows.
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Originally posted by BASS
she has control, she decides the wigs for her shows.
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And that is a very important decision that needs to be made
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Originally posted by PopBoi
Rihanna doesn't write her own music, so that means she has no control over her career?
MOST artists don't (really) write their own music |
this applies to whitney too? since she never wrote any of her songs ?
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Originally posted by PopBoi
MOST MAINSTREAMartists don't (really) write their own music
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Fixed. 
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Originally posted by Nicole
Rihanna won't get burned out b/c (1) her music is great and (2) she's not that involved in its creation.
Being an EP means nothing. Some people get an automatic contractual EP credit. Her job duties as an EP are just speculation on your part. This article, which I always post when this topic arises and which always gets swept under the rug, is NOT speculation: http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/...ake-a-hit-song
So she's fine putting out annual albums. I look forward to more S&Ms and Umbrellas. |
Rihanna is a smart gal though.
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Originally posted by evo
Yes but you asked about the quality of the music, not the commercial success. The quality is dwindling.
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I demand to differ.
The quality is dwindling... and how so?
You want to have the audacity to tell me that album cuts like Rockstar, Stupid in Love, Photographs, Te Amo are of higher quality than a majority of Loud?
You want to tell me that California King Bed isn't amongst her best ballads ever recorded?
You want to tell me that What's My Name isn't innovative in sound and didn't spark an output of copy-cat songs from lessor artists?
You want to tell me that Man Down didn't carry a strong message, much like Rated R did, while beautifully meshing her original Island sound with current appeal?
You want to tell me that half of the filler on MOTS, AGLM, and GGGB even compare to the stuff she's recently done?
You're clearly out of your element here. I'd suggest backing down now.
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Originally posted by GirlYouFancy!
She's young & she's hungry. Point blank period. Leave her be. The fact that she was able to film a movie, create a perfume, go on tour--having to add dates by request in Brazil & 10 SOLD OUT NIGHTS at the O2, sell 5million copies of LOUD WW, and rack up 4 top 10 hits (3 of which were number 1)...not to mention some of the biggest acts on earth are collaborating with her: Coldplay, Britney Spears, etc.
She has the world's support. The fastest rising fandom on facebook.
She hasn't had any kids. She hasn't had an injury. She's not a singer/songwriter. She doesn't have a boyfriend to tie her down. Honestly if she wasn't putting out and album every year I'd be disappointed. |
And that is basically IT. You said a mouthful. Rihanna can handle it. She has
the exact requirements needed for pushing forward and releasing albums
yearly. She's young, full of energy, full of life, and focused on her career.
She can handle it. When she starts getting older, she'll naturally slow
down, but right now, with nothing to tie her down and no
distractions, she can do whatever the hell she wants.
...Vin
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Dead at the stans on here thinking their fave actually has total artistic control of their career. Y'all need to remember that the music industry ain't really what it seems.
But back on-topic, I think Rihanna can move at whatever pace her label wants her to with albums, you guys are right, she's young and, for now, she can handle it. But she had 11 singles in 2010 and 9 already so far in 2011. Being that most of those singles are hits to some extent, the public is inevitably going to get sick of this gerl at some point.
I feel like the only reason the public hasn't gotten sick of her yet is because she doesn't really have any cultural impact and she's not a constant media figure i.e. Gaga; her career centers around one main thing - hit singles. Perhaps that's why she's never invited to the VMA's...her label might not want her to go just so the public doesn't get any more of her than they do every time they turn on the radio.
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Originally posted by Nicole
Rihanna won't get burned out b/c (1) her music is great and (2) she's not that involved in its creation.
Being an EP means nothing. Some people get an automatic contractual EP credit. Her job duties as an EP are just speculation on your part. This article, which I always post when this topic arises and which always gets swept under the rug, is NOT speculation: http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/...ake-a-hit-song
So she's fine putting out annual albums. I look forward to more S&Ms and Umbrellas. |
There's nothing on here that says she didn't decide what songs made the album cut 
Article Invalid. She chose the songs she wanted on the CD, and she chose to have people that's she worked with before attend the writing camp that she obviously enjoys working with.
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Originally posted by TheOnlyOne
I demand to differ.
The quality is dwindling... and how so?
You want to have the audacity to tell me that album cuts like Rockstar, Stupid in Love, Photographs, Te Amo are of higher quality than a majority of Loud?
You want to tell me that California King Bed isn't amongst her best ballads ever recorded?
You want to tell me that What's My Name isn't innovative in sound and didn't spark an output of copy-cat songs from lessor artists?
You want to tell me that Man Down didn't carry a strong message, much like Rated R did, while beautifully meshing her original Island sound with current appeal?
You want to tell me that half of the filler on MOTS, AGLM, and GGGB even compare to the stuff she's recently done?
You're clearly out of your element here. I'd suggest backing down now.
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Not songs by themselves, but as an ENTIRE body of work. The tracks on RR are far stronger than those on Loud. Loud does have its moments (Skin), but overall -- the quality was diminished.
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Originally posted by evo
Yes but you asked about the quality of the music, not the commercial success. The quality is dwindling.
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That's subjective, AKA your opinion means nothing. Plenty of people prefer Loud to Rated R.
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Rihanna has released two flawless albums, back-to-back. Keep releasing quality music Rihanna!
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Originally posted by skyler
this applies to whitney too? since she never wrote any of her songs ?
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Exactly. Whitney didn't write her music, so what? Writing means nothing.
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Fixed. |
This is a pop forum, I would have thought that would be obvious. 
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Originally posted by thegmangrant
Ok time doesn't mean anything... People have waited years to make albums, and they've turned out to be crap. Everyone is a different person, therefore they will not work the same way as others do. Especially in a band, which is a terrible comparison to use.
I did, and you refuse to believe.
As I said earlier, they don't just hand out Executive Producer credits. |
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The gorls in here acting like they have video documentation of all the meetings, recording sessions, ect.
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Originally posted by Katie
And that is a very important decision that needs to be made |
Of course, how could we live without that Sideshow Bob wig ?
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