I'm not sure if the illuminati still exist. But I do believe in the new world order.
My phylosophy teacher was talking the other day about how the governments as we know them
now won't exist forever & he also told us that we are living the process of change right now
but we will not see the entire change because we'll be dead by then. There's a theory about it.
It says that the world will be dominated by big corporations or something like that.
Then stop acting like a troll and stop refuting people so harshly, and start considering what we have to say. Or else I'll just ignore you the rest of this thread.
1. I never said the butterfly was an Illuminati symbol.
2. I never said the triangle was an Illuminati symbol.
3. One could be concerned about the Illuminati because of imagery that has been seen over time and certain bizarre occurrences. 9/11, the trip to the Moon, the War on Terror - all could be considered Illuminati-backed and an inside job. The trip to the Moon is also considered to be fake by some, and with good reason. Due to all of this, and some more serious things revolving around death and mass murder, we have reason to be frightened or at least cautious.
4. How could we know?
What imagery, exactly? And where is ANY evidence/proof that 9/11 and the trip to the moon are related? One was orchestrated by Al-Qaeda and one was orchestrated by NASA.
And how do you account for all the good things that have happened over the past 40 years then? Advances in medicine, the rise of the internet, extended lifespans, etc. etc.
By your own arguments, the Illuminati are all-powerful, so why has so much good happened when they're something we should be concerned about and trying to stop?
Exactly. And have you noticed that artists almost never know what to say about symbolism? Like they very infrequently have any reasoning behind their symbols, or at least not that they express.
Yes!! I notice that, too. Or...they'll make up some ******** that barely makes any sense.
Obviously something has to exist because all of these pyramids, eyes, weird hand movements and **** don't just mean anything but flowers and rainbows.
Plus...I could be totally wrong on this, but don't they say that the rock sign means something bad, too? 'Cause I've seen pictures of George Bush doing that sign, and why the hell would he have any reason to do that if it didn't have anything to do with the Illuminati?
What imagery, exactly? And where is ANY evidence/proof that 9/11 and the trip to the moon are related? One was orchestrated by Al-Qaeda and one was orchestrated by NASA.
And how do you account for all the good things that have happened over the past 40 years then? Advances in medicine, the rise of the internet, extended lifespans, etc. etc.
By your own arguments, the Illuminati are all-powerful, so why has so much good happened when they're something we should be concerned about and trying to stop?
Maybe they're trying to make themselves look good and powerful so that then in years to come some **** can happen to us that we don't 100% expect? Idk. Who knows.
Almost everybody is hungry for power and money to the point where they'll do anything to get to the top, to become the most powerful.
Exactly. And have you noticed that artists almost never know what to say about symbolism? Like they very infrequently have any reasoning behind their symbols, or at least not that they express.
You're not really supposed to explain symbolism, though. That's the whole point. The viewer/reader/listener is supposed to analyze for themselves. If an artist has to stand up and point out all the symbolism in the work to you, it's bad art. Symbolism HAS to speak for itself by it's very definition.
There's also the whole matter that pop music is shallow and a lot of the time things that aren't actually symbolism for anything are thrown into videos to make an artist seem deeper than they are.
I got a question for those who do or on the border of believing they exist and pop's biggest stars are apart of it:
Do you still listen to their music? Watch their videos? I'm not trying to be funny but all these lyrics and meanings are what makes you brainwashed by the Illuminati but you still are fans and such. Why?
Yes!! I notice that, too. Or...they'll make up some ******** that barely makes any sense.
Obviously something has to exist because all of these pyramids, eyes, weird hand movements and **** don't just mean anything but flowers and rainbows.
Plus...I could be totally wrong on this, but don't they say that the rock sign means something bad, too? 'Cause I've seen pictures of George Bush doing that sign, and why the hell would he have any reason to do that if it didn't have anything to do with the Illuminati?
.........Because he's an old white dude in a political position? It's what they do. He was trying to look "hip."
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about with this made-up, assigned symbolism. You can't just DECIDE it's a symbol for the Illuminati because you don't understand it. There is absolutely no historical, social, or cultural significance to the rock symbol connecting it to an overarching organization.
What imagery, exactly? And where is ANY evidence/proof that 9/11 and the trip to the moon are related? One was orchestrated by Al-Qaeda and one was orchestrated by NASA.
And how do you account for all the good things that have happened over the past 40 years then? Advances in medicine, the rise of the internet, extended lifespans, etc. etc.
By your own arguments, the Illuminati are all-powerful, so why has so much good happened when they're something we should be concerned about and trying to stop?
Media.
I never said they were related. And we don't know for sure if 9/11 was caused by Al-Qaeda. The way the building collapsed is suspicious. It's also suspicious that Bin Laden was supposedly killed this summer, but Benazir Bhutto had previously stated in 2007 that Bin Laden had been killed, only to be killed herself. A little weird, no? I'm just saying there are bizarre occurrences. Which there are.
Just because there is good does not mean that bad cannot co-exist with it. It's possible that it was planned to be good so that we would not question.
