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Discussion: Will Usher be a legend?
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To be fair, no other male pop singer will ever have the success, critical acclaim, and overall legacy Michael Jackson has brought to music as a male singer. However, that doesn't mean no other male pop singer can't or won't achieve that title of being a legend in the near future. Michael can't and won't be replaced, that's set and stone, same goes for Madonna.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by LightandDarkness
To be fair, no other male pop singer will ever have the success, critical acclaim, and overall legacy Michael Jackson has brought to music as a male singer. However, that doesn't mean no other male pop singer can't or won't achieve that title of being a legend in the near future. Michael can't and won't be replaced, that's set and stone, same goes for Madonna.
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Of course. But there could be artists that reach such astronomical success and impact that they are this generation's MJ's and Madonna's in retrospect.
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Member Since: 10/28/2009
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Originally posted by Icing
NO. Rev-pop...really? Like, actually? Anyone who feels the need to openly say that they're revolutionary is nothing but the opposite. Sit the ****ing **** down Usher.
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NOOOOOOOOOoo 
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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You don't have to meet Michael's success or impact to be a legend or an icon. That's absurd.  There are many "legends" who have not made as big of an impact as Mike, but they have made their own mark through their music, influence, industry and critical respect, etc.
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Member Since: 4/2/2010
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
None of his peers have that "one" album. And that's good that people in the R&B field cite Confessions. That is his genre, and that's what will make him an R&B legend (there are plenty of those), but Confessions, despite its enormous success, is not heavily cited outside of the R&B/Urban genre that often. Usher doesn't have "that" song either.
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Confessions is his album & Yeah! is his song. They didn't just coast by.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
In a sense, yes he will be. But he won't be one of those legends I see getting many lifetime achievement awards or making "best of" lists very often. To me, his success is way bigger than his impact and respect.
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I can't believe someone compared him to ...
... some of you girls. 
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
You don't have to meet Michael's success or impact to be a legend or an icon. That's absurd. There are many "legends" who have not made as big of an impact as Mike, but they have made their own mark through their music, influence, industry and critical respect, etc. |
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Member Since: 7/11/2010
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
I won't even get into the "buy" mess.
And Beyonce is already getting these special honorary awards. Just saying.
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my uncle works in a record label. Lifetime achievement awards ARE BOUGHT BY LABELS. At this point of his carreer Usher doesn't NEED those type of awards. He already had a lot of grammy including 7 Grammy.
And trust me Usher could care less about some premade critics lists. He could have bought a place but he doesn't even care. He is more worried about hot 100 and grammy.. 
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by BeamMeUp
Confessions is his album & Yeah! is his song. They didn't just coast by.
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Yes, it's his song and his album. No one denied that, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make or are you just trying to dismiss my point because you're an Usher fan?
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by ILoveUsher
my uncle works in a record label. Lifetime achievement awards ARE BOUGHT BY LABELS. At this point of his carreer Usher doesn't NEED those type of awards. He already had a lot of grammy including 7 Grammy.
And trust me Usher could care less about some premade critics lists. He could have bought a place but he doesn't even care. He is more worried about hot 100 and grammy.. |
Good for Usher.
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So, the fact that Usher has been in the game since 1994 and is still relevant is soley based off of poopulairty? 
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Member Since: 7/11/2010
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Yes, it's his song and his album. No one denied that, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make or are you just trying to dismiss my point because you're an Usher fan?
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Lol so just because he is an Usher he can't dismiss your point 
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
I won't even get into the "buy" mess.
And Beyonce is already getting these special honorary awards. Just saying.
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Beyoncé is Beyoncé. She had her first legend award at the age of thirteen. Usher still gets his Grammys in so his music is respected.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Okay. I'm just stating my opinion on this. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this. 
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Member Since: 7/11/2010
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Originally posted by Beyond Say
So, the fact that Usher has been in the game since 1994 is soley based off of poopulairty and is still relevant? |
LMAO 
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Member Since: 4/2/2010
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Yes, it's his song and his album. No one denied that, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make or are you just trying to dismiss my point because you're an Usher fan?
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I wasn't speaking literally, Cap10. I'm saying those are his "one" song & "one" album. I'm not dismissing your point, I'm not claimg "he's a LEGEND!!!111 ZOMG!" but to say he doesn't have a defining album or song, then who does?
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by BeamMeUp
I wasn't speaking literally, Cap10. I'm saying those are his "one" song & "one" album. I'm not dismissing your point, I'm not claimg "he's a LEGEND!!!111 ZOMG!" but to say he doesn't have a defining album or song, then who does?
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I never said he didn't have a defining album or song. Those things defined his career, and I never denied he was a legend or could be one. I just do not think either that album or song is held in such high regards by many.
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Katy Perry, Legend?
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Member Since: 7/11/2010
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Originally posted by BeamMeUp
I wasn't speaking literally, Cap10. I'm saying those are his "one" song & "one" album. I'm not dismissing your point, I'm not claimg "he's a LEGEND!!!111 ZOMG!" but to say he doesn't have a defining album or song, then who does?
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Why won't they let him be great *kanye voice*
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