I originally read this at Popjustice, but since I'm banned from that crap forum I can't quote it or look for it, either way those shady ass mods suck balls. But the idea and when then I read MrPeanut's post here and that made me think about the Alejandro demo.
Take a look at The Fame Monster. It is amazing. Then take a look at the demo's we have for the tracks.
Bad Romance demo.
Alejandro demo.
and of course the Telephone demo, but considering the process of that song was so long before it finally ended (as she said herself too and mocked Telephone for it in the PopJustice interview), I decided not to really enclose this. But here it is, anyways. Telephone demo.
The point;
The tracks sound so raw, amazing, and less over-produced. I ****ing bet that she the demos from Born This Way will sound as raw to the final tracks as the demos do for the Fame Monster. I see there is a similair problem: the tracks are in the locker for too long. She has already tweeted lyrics for song ages ago, which (but also her own word in interviews) proofs that she already had them finished. I conclude that these tracks had enormous changes and to some cases, overproduction like Hair or even Born This Way. I hope demos for Born This Way will leak someday.
In short: Gaga has the real gems locked away, being the demos. Just like Alejandro and Bad Romance.
The longer she does over a track, the badder it becomes sometimes. Lol, insta-loved Heavy Metal Lover proves this for being the latest one she recorded. Although Judas is 'old' (lyrics like a year ago?) it does still sound amazing. But other RedOne track Hair does not come close.
Scheiße intro goes on too long. That line was OK 3 times but not like 10.
She really needs someone on her team who can step in and push her songs in a more commercial direction. Someone to take her ideas and melodies and guide them. So many of her songs have the potential to be huge, epic, non-generic pop hits but they miss the mark due to length, lack of clarity, repetition and overproduction.
DITD could have been a career-defining, meaningful, award-winning smash single. It's very good and it has the framework to be a total hit. But it's too long. It's too repetitive. And what the **** is she saying? A huge part of pop music's appeal is to be able to understand and sing along. That song should have been trimmed, edited and re-shaped (without too much changed) into a truly special single.
Just like Just Dance was in the beginning?
We'll see who dances the flamenco in the end.
JD is her most generically radio-friendly song. There's really no comparison.
Note that I'm not talking about quality here (although it probably is one of my least favorite tracks on the album), but you have to be strategic when it comes to singles.
Scheiße's "Ich schleiban austa be clair, es kumpent madre monstère" chant won't work for radio. And I'm not convinced Government Hooker would get any further than Judas. And I sort of feel the same about Americano.
Marry The Night is a done deal and definitely going to be a single. Bloody Mary is my wild card pick. Bad Kids is simple and the chorus is catchy, so it's perfect for pop radio. And this album is for üs, so we might as well finish where we started with Yoü & I...
4. Marry The Night - August 5. Bloody Mary - Winter
6. Highway Unicorn - March
7. Bad Kids - Spring/Summer 8. Yoü & I - Summer
I originally read this at Popjustice, but since I'm banned from that crap forum I can't quote it or look for it, either way those shady ass mods suck balls. But the idea and when then I read MrPeanut's post here and that made me think about the Alejandro demo.
Take a look at The Fame Monster. It is amazing. Then take a look at the demo's we have for the tracks.
Bad Romance demo.
Alejandro demo.
and of course the Telephone demo, but considering the process of that song was so long before it finally ended (as she said herself too and mocked Telephone for it in the PopJustice interview), I decided not to really enclose this. But here it is, anyways. Telephone demo.
The point;
The tracks sound so raw, amazing, and less over-produced. I ****ing bet that she the demos from Born This Way will sound as raw to the final tracks as the demos do for the Fame Monster. I see there is a similair problem: the tracks are in the locker for too long. She has already tweeted lyrics for song ages ago, which (but also her own word in interviews) proofs that she already had them finished. I conclude that these tracks had enormous changes and to some cases, overproduction like Hair or even Born This Way. I hope demos for Born This Way will leak someday.
In short: Gaga has the real gems locked away, being the demos. Just like Alejandro and Bad Romance.
The longer she does over a track, the badder it becomes sometimes. Lol, insta-loved Heavy Metal Lover proves this for being the latest one she recorded. Although Judas is 'old' (lyrics like a year ago?) it does still sound amazing. But other RedOne track Hair does not come close.
Scheiße intro goes on too long. That line was OK 3 times but not like 10.
I actually think the final versions of Alejandro and BR sound quite a bit more polished than the demos.
JD is her most generically radio-friendly song. There's really no comparison.
Note that I'm not talking about quality here (although it probably is one of my least favorite tracks on the album), but you have to be strategic when it comes to singles.
It definitely is now, but I thought radios didn't want to play it at first?
Well, I still think it could become very successful. Guess, I'm the only one, but I think it will end up being a single and we'll see then.
She really needs someone on her team who can step in and push her songs in a more commercial direction. Someone to take her ideas and melodies and guide them. So many of her songs have the potential to be huge, epic, non-generic pop hits but they miss the mark due to length, lack of clarity, repetition and overproduction.
DITD could have been a career-defining, award-winning smash single. It's very good and it has the framework to be a total hit. But it's too long. It's too repetitive. And what the **** is she saying? A huge part of pop music's appeal is to be able to understand and sing along. That song should have been trimmed, edited and re-shaped (without too much changed) into a truly special single.
It's the downside of creative control. She should keep using the people who got her this far, considering they got her this far. She still has LaurieAnn and Judas music video is perfection, but on other parts it's gone. Yes, some songs are clear smashes but she makes total album tracks out of them, someone should be there you need to make at least 3 radio smashes - I don't care from which tracks you take it.
I actually think the final versions of Alejandro and BR sound quite a bit more polished than the demos.
Yes, that is the problem. Everything sounds so polished. We are here for the rawness of her pop perfection, the thing she gets from God every time when she writes it and makes it at the spot.
We are not here for the tracks that are locked away for 6 months and then when finally the album nearly comes out, they try to make them sound 'more recent' and polish it too much making it lacking depth to me sometimes.
She should keep using the people who got her this far, considering they got her this far. She still has LaurieAnn and Judas music video is perfection, but on other parts it's gone.
*gets ready for Shittyann Gibson rant from Nicole*
Scheiße's "Ich schleiban austa be clair, es kumpent madre monstère" chant won't work for radio. And I'm not convinced Government Hooker would get any further than Judas. And I sort of feel the same about Americano.
Marry The Night is a done deal and definitely going to be a single. Bloody Mary is my wild card pick. Bad Kids is simple and the chorus is catchy, so it's perfect for pop radio. And this album is for üs, so we might as well finish where we started with Yoü & I...
4. Marry The Night - August
5. Bloody Mary - Winter
6. Highway Unicorn - March
7. Bad Kids - Spring/Summer
8. Yoü & I - Summer
I want her label to take risks with this album. She has nothing left to lose. I agree with MTN for 4th, that is a signed, sealed, delivered hit. 5th (for the winter), I would like Yoü & I, I think it fits with the season. That single seems a safe-ish bet too. After the 5th single is where I want the risks to start taking place. Contrary to what you said about Scheiße, I want it released, & for the Spring of 2012. I also want Government Hooker for the summer. And for Fall 2012, Bloody Mary or Heavy Metal Lover.
Bad Kids & Highway Unicorn... I don't want them released. They are just good album tracks to me.
Next time she should give RedOne one more track, considering 2 out of the 3 tracks he did where epic and we all suspect him from being jealous about having only 3 tracks while the others had more (except 1 - Mutt Lange) and not being in a director-like position. We suspect him for intentionally making Hair bad.
I can understand people not agreeing when I trashed her in February (not everyone is as perceptive )...but you're still not convinced she's a fraud?
Tbh.. I'm tired of her. She runs her mouth to much, she talks about things she DOES NOT know about or shouldn't be revealing, her choreography is okay. Ch.. I can go all day she needs to be replaced.
It doesn't sit well with me, unfortunately.
That line was OK 3 times but not like 10.
)...but you're still not convinced she's a fraud?