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Music News: Billboard Biz: 300,000 downloads of BTW from Amazon
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Companies take losses all the time...  For example, when the Playstation 3 was first released, Sony sold the Playstation 3 at a ~$300 loss each, but they did it so that their incredibly profitable Blu-Ray discs would take off. And it worked. |
Exactly...there are so many people here who refuse to look at it from a marketing, advertising, and public relations stand point. It's genius. 
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I'm starting to think Amazon is going to be the big winner here moreso than Gaga. Sure, they will be handing Interscope a chunk of money (which isn't really much for them). Everyone who purchased an album is at least partially aware of their cloud service, cheaper music prices and mp3 store. Everyone who was gifted a copy is also aware. In addition, the largest digital sales week in history will likely go to Amazon, stealing the crown from iTunes sales. On top of that, as we can see by all the haters here, there will be a ******* of probably negative publicity towards Gaga saying she doesn't deserve her sales and blah blah. Amazon will be cashing in on all of this exposure as the huge digital sales service that made it all possible.
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Originally posted by Mickey
Companies take losses all the time... For example, when the Playstation 3 was first released, Sony sold the Playstation 3 at a ~$300 loss each, but they did it so that their incredibly profitable Blu-Ray discs would take off. And it worked. |
Yas, spill that comparable tea.
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The level of idiocy in this thread. From both sides. 
Amazon is the largest online retailer in the US. They can afford selling albums at a loss. I'm sure they know what they're doing and don't need business pointers from BRITNEY SPEARS FANS. The one area where Amazon lags is music downloads and based on the tremendous response to the $0.99 BTW deal (it's not easy to crash a site like Amazon), it was a smart move. And let's not pretend that albums like Teenage Dream and Animal/Cannibal didn't spend a good 50% of their chart runs on discount everywhere from iTunes to Amazon, Best Buy and Walmart. Even Femme Fatale's price has already been slashed. They weren't selling for $0.99, but their discounts actually came from the labels.
What Amazon did is going to keep happening from now on. And BTW is always going to be cited as the album that instigated the movement. Even though it's been done before, this is the first time the industry will sit up and take notice.
But Gaga fans pretending that the $0.99 discount didn't incentivize tonsof people to buy who wouldn't otherwise have bought are being equally delusional. Just wait until the second-week drop. Not that it matters all that much - most pop albums are lucky to go Platinum in their entire runs even with lots of hit singles and big promo. Sure, Rated R wasn't really helped by its week-long $0.99 Amazon discount, but it also didn't have the kind of BTW hype and buzz that would make non-fans interested in buying it at a bargain.
As for the massive BTW promo, are people really surprised? Of course Interscope is going to put their full weight behind this album. They didn't have to hire expensive writers for it - for better or worse, Lady Gaga wrote it and you can tell. They didn't hire expensive producers with diva demands for it - for better or worse, Garibay & Whiteshadow have had no prior hits. The whole album was recorded on the road while Gaga was making Interscope money not just from a $200M+ tour, but also from selling millions of singles, albums, Halloween costumes, merchandise, endorsements, etc. Just to put things in perspective: while BTW was being recorded, her tacky Remix album easily outsold Cannibal WW. Last week, TheWrap did a breakdown of Gaga's contribution to Insterscope - since 2008, she has made over $200M for them. It's not surprising that they're supporting her like this. The perks of not being a basic pop star.
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They are doing EVERYTHING to break Britney record and she probably will, it's embarassing and if I were a stan I wouldn't even celebrate 
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
But Gaga fans pretending that the $0.99 discount didn't incentivize tonsof people to buy who wouldn't otherwise have bought are being equally delusional. Just wait until the second-week drop. Not that it matters all that much - most pop albums are lucky to go Platinum in their entire runs even with lots of hit singles and big promo. Sure, Rated R wasn't really helped by its week-long $0.99 Amazon discount, but it also didn't have the kind of BTW hype and buzz that would make non-fans interested in buying it at a bargain.
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This complaint has to be the funniest to me. Why is it a bad thing that people who weren't sure if they were going to buy it or not now have an incentive to buy it because of an attractive price. 
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Originally posted by Last Boy on Earth
They are doing EVERYTHING to break Britney record and she probably will, it's embarassing and if I were a stan I wouldn't even celebrate |
They? Is Amazon trying to break Britney's record? Interscope nor Lady Gaga is involved in this.
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Oh, and also, don't be so ****ing retarded. It's embarrassing.
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Originally posted by MonstahNL
They? Is Amazon trying to break Britney's record? Interscope nor Lady Gaga is involved in this. |
Google and now Amazon stanning for Gaga. Who's gonna check her now?
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Originally posted by Last Boy on Earth
They are doing EVERYTHING to break Britney record and she probably will, it's embarassing and if I were a stan I wouldn't even celebrate |
Sad, very sad. 
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Originally posted by MrPeanut
Google and now Amazon stanning for Gaga. Who's gonna check her now?
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We need Apple to stan harder.
The Edge of Glory in every iPad commercial? She'd hit 8x platinum in no time. 
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
The level of idiocy in this thread. From both sides.
Amazon is the largest online retailer in the US. They can afford selling albums at a loss. I'm sure they know what they're doing and don't need business pointers from BRITNEY SPEARS FANS. The one area where Amazon lags is music downloads and based on the tremendous response to the $0.99 BTW deal (it's not easy to crash a site like Amazon), it was a smart move. And let's not pretend that albums like Teenage Dream and Animal/Cannibal didn't spend a good 50% of their chart runs on discount everywhere from iTunes to Amazon, Best Buy and Walmart. Even Femme Fatale's price has already been slashed. They weren't selling for $0.99, but their discounts actually came from the labels.
What Amazon did is going to keep happening from now on. And BTW is always going to be cited as the album that instigated the movement. Even though it's been done before, this is the first time the industry will sit up and take notice.
But Gaga fans pretending that the $0.99 discount didn't incentivize tonsof people to buy who wouldn't otherwise have bought are being equally delusional. Just wait until the second-week drop. Not that it matters all that much - most pop albums are lucky to go Platinum in their entire runs even with lots of hit singles and big promo. Sure, Rated R wasn't really helped by its week-long $0.99 Amazon discount, but it also didn't have the kind of BTW hype and buzz that would make non-fans interested in buying it at a bargain.
As for the massive BTW promo, are people really surprised? Of course Interscope is going to put their full weight behind this album. They didn't have to hire expensive writers for it - for better or worse, Lady Gaga wrote it and you can tell. They didn't hire expensive producers with diva demands for it - for better or worse, Garibay & Whiteshadow have had no prior hits. The whole album was recorded on the road while Gaga was making Interscope money not just from a $200M+ tour, but also from selling millions of singles, albums, Halloween costumes, merchandise, endorsements, etc. Just to put things in perspective: while BTW was being recorded, her tacky Remix album easily outsold Cannibal WW. Last week, TheWrap did a breakdown of Gaga's contribution to Insterscope - since 2008, she has made over $200M for them. It's not surprising that they're supporting her like this. The perks of not being a basic pop star. |
Great post Nicole - I agree. Let's not forget that Jimmy Lovine is playing all of his cards to promote Gaga because Interscope is slowly losing market share to Columbia. 
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Originally posted by FameHooker
Great post Nicole - I agree. Let's not forget that Jimmy Lovine is clearly playing all of his cards to promote Gaga because Interscope is slowly losing market share to Columbia. |
I'm hoping he has some big things planned for longevity. I'm sure he wants a certain someone's wig as badly as I do.
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Originally posted by RobynYoBank
I'm hoping he has some big things planned for longevity. I'm sure he wants a certain someone's wig as badly as I do. |
Well, the tour is beginning in November. It's a great way to promote the album. 
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
The level of idiocy in this thread. From both sides.
Amazon is the largest online retailer in the US. They can afford selling albums at a loss. I'm sure they know what they're doing and don't need business pointers from BRITNEY SPEARS FANS. The one area where Amazon lags is music downloads and based on the tremendous response to the $0.99 BTW deal (it's not easy to crash a site like Amazon), it was a smart move. And let's not pretend that albums like Teenage Dream and Animal/Cannibal didn't spend a good 50% of their chart runs on discount everywhere from iTunes to Amazon, Best Buy and Walmart. Even Femme Fatale's price has already been slashed. They weren't selling for $0.99, but their discounts actually came from the labels.
What Amazon did is going to keep happening from now on. And BTW is always going to be cited as the album that instigated the movement. Even though it's been done before, this is the first time the industry will sit up and take notice.
But Gaga fans pretending that the $0.99 discount didn't incentivize tonsof people to buy who wouldn't otherwise have bought are being equally delusional. Just wait until the second-week drop. Not that it matters all that much - most pop albums are lucky to go Platinum in their entire runs even with lots of hit singles and big promo. Sure, Rated R wasn't really helped by its week-long $0.99 Amazon discount, but it also didn't have the kind of BTW hype and buzz that would make non-fans interested in buying it at a bargain.
As for the massive BTW promo, are people really surprised? Of course Interscope is going to put their full weight behind this album. They didn't have to hire expensive writers for it - for better or worse, Lady Gaga wrote it and you can tell. They didn't hire expensive producers with diva demands for it - for better or worse, Garibay & Whiteshadow have had no prior hits. The whole album was recorded on the road while Gaga was making Interscope money not just from a $200M+ tour, but also from selling millions of singles, albums, Halloween costumes, merchandise, endorsements, etc. Just to put things in perspective: while BTW was being recorded, her tacky Remix album easily outsold Cannibal WW. Last week, TheWrap did a breakdown of Gaga's contribution to Insterscope - since 2008, she has made over $200M for them. It's not surprising that they're supporting her like this. The perks of not being a basic pop star. |
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
The level of idiocy in this thread. From both sides.
Amazon is the largest online retailer in the US. They can afford selling albums at a loss. I'm sure they know what they're doing and don't need business pointers from BRITNEY SPEARS FANS. The one area where Amazon lags is music downloads and based on the tremendous response to the $0.99 BTW deal (it's not easy to crash a site like Amazon), it was a smart move. And let's not pretend that albums like Teenage Dream and Animal/Cannibal didn't spend a good 50% of their chart runs on discount everywhere from iTunes to Amazon, Best Buy and Walmart. Even Femme Fatale's price has already been slashed. They weren't selling for $0.99, but their discounts actually came from the labels.
What Amazon did is going to keep happening from now on. And BTW is always going to be cited as the album that instigated the movement. Even though it's been done before, this is the first time the industry will sit up and take notice.
But Gaga fans pretending that the $0.99 discount didn't incentivize tonsof people to buy who wouldn't otherwise have bought are being equally delusional. Just wait until the second-week drop. Not that it matters all that much - most pop albums are lucky to go Platinum in their entire runs even with lots of hit singles and big promo. Sure, Rated R wasn't really helped by its week-long $0.99 Amazon discount, but it also didn't have the kind of BTW hype and buzz that would make non-fans interested in buying it at a bargain.
As for the massive BTW promo, are people really surprised? Of course Interscope is going to put their full weight behind this album. They didn't have to hire expensive writers for it - for better or worse, Lady Gaga wrote it and you can tell. They didn't hire expensive producers with diva demands for it - for better or worse, Garibay & Whiteshadow have had no prior hits. The whole album was recorded on the road while Gaga was making Interscope money not just from a $200M+ tour, but also from selling millions of singles, albums, Halloween costumes, merchandise, endorsements, etc. Just to put things in perspective: while BTW was being recorded, her tacky Remix album easily outsold Cannibal WW. Last week, TheWrap did a breakdown of Gaga's contribution to Insterscope - since 2008, she has made over $200M for them. It's not surprising that they're supporting her like this. The perks of not being a basic pop star. |
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I can't @ this ****. I pay $16 for my album while others pay $1?  !!
.. I could have bought 16 copies. 
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I can't @ this ****. I pay $16 for my album while others pay $1? !! |
I bought a 16$ one too. More than likely her stans did the same.
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I bought a 16$ one too. More than likely her stans did the same.
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Is it $1 for the whole week?
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Originally posted by Hello
Is it $1 for the whole week?
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Just today
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