[dposton]

Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole

This is the iTunes thread, and the truth of the matter is that Rihanna's biggest solo hit in the last few years (OG) was so lacking in sales vs airplay that despite being a brand new song, a $.69 discount was needed to hit #1.

That's true. But she was coming off a not so good digital era. So she's building back up and S&M will outperform OG if analysis is done.

OG sold 249k first week then fell to 160k i believe. Not to mention OG had to split WMN (urban release) sales for most of its run. S&M has so far been selling 170k+ consistently for several weeks now. And is not looking to slow down.

[skyler]

Originally posted by fabian_phipps

Omfg, certain people in the navy are starting to piss me of. + this thread needs to be sorted out, everyother Day there is form of stan war. black and yellow & i need a doctor are smashing in the uk.! wait, i take that back, everyday there is

this!!!!

[Raava]

Originally posted by dposton

Reading through these pages is a mess. Rihanna is not a HUGE digital monster in the US. That title is for Katy Perry. Rihanna is a WORLDWIDE digital monster.

And to the others who are saying rihanna had promo in the UK. Didnt you say that people will choose to buy the song after the promo week is complete? Rihanna sold 130k for 2 weeks straight.

S&M is performing superbly for a 3rd single. She's ahead GAGA in 8 countries and counting. Hopefully Germany and US will be soon as it will be released in Germany in a week or so , and she's also nominated for an Echo award.

OH YEAH.....

According to the world chart, Mediatraffic, the following artists are having the most success with singles in 2011...so far. As of March 4th. Not to mention 700-800k points she's garned for the last 2 weeks. There's absolutely no argument. Rihanna being #1 will not change for a LONG TIME. Her songs are smashing simulatneously, a feat that very few can accomplish. Sorry Are you ready for S&M , CKB, Cheers and the new single to continue this trend? Because i am. Thankkkkks.

01) Rihanna: 8,164,000
02) Bruno Mars: 6,212,000
03) Katy Perry: 4,742,000
04) P!nk: 3,659,000
05) Black Eyed Peas: 3,163,000
06) Taio Cruz: 2,803,000
07) Pitbull: 2,651,000
08) Ke$ha: 2,455,000
09) Far East Movement: 2,324,000
10) David Guetta: 2,179,000
11) Usher: 2,131,000
12) Enrique Iglesias: 2,018,000
13) Cee Lo Green: 1,971,000
14) Britney Spears: 1,685,000
15) Adele: 1,666,000
16) Chris Brown: 1,592,000
17) Wiz Khalifa: 1,586,000
18) Eminem: 1,580,000
19) Diddy Dirty Money: 1,571,000
20) Lady Gaga: 1,547,000

Do you know how many songs Rihanna had on chart this year? And she had 3 months, while Gaga had only 1 month, and only 1 song...
So, if I follow your perspective, by calculating BTW downloads (1 song) times 5 (quantity of Rihanna songs) times 3 (months Rihanna had that Gaga didn't), it would be WAY more than just 8,164,000 downloads (actually, 23,205,000)
And all that according to Mediatraffic

[IMMABE]

Originally posted by simon2011

Just Cant Get Enough is #15 soon because of decreasing Landslide but BEP needs to climb faster though after the video premier :-/ any idea about BEP's MV premier date?

No, but they're going to perform the single on American Idol next week

[dposton]

Originally posted by jairosuxx

Do you know how many songs Rihanna had on chart this year? And she had 3 months, while Gaga had only 1 month, and only 1 song...
So, if I follow your perspective, by calculating BTW downloads (1 song) times 5 (quantity of Rihanna songs) times 3 (months Rihanna had that Gaga didn't), it would be WAY more than just 8,164,000 downloads (actually, 23,205,000)
And all that according to Mediatraffic

Did you carefully read my post? Where did I undermine Gaga's success? I was responding to people who were undermining Rihanna's. That is all.

I said Rihanna is having great WW success bud.

And just to respond to your logic: Mariah carey is the biggest selling female artist of all time and she's released 15+ albums, while whitney houston has released i believe 7-8 studio albums. But It doesnt take away mariah's title.

[herohoney]

Originally posted by IMMABE

No, but they're going to perform the single on American Idol next week

Again.

They always perform on AI!!

[fabian_phipps]

i personally dont think rihanna is that big of a digital seller any more.

[dposton]

Originally posted by fabian_phipps

i personally dont think rihanna is that big of a digital seller any more.

In what markets? Relative to who?

[herohoney]

Originally posted by dposton

In what markets? Relative to who?

In US.

But there's one thing great is that she got lots of 3 million single!!!!!!
That's good enough!!

[MrPeanut]

Well, I hear that BTW's performance so far has been rather underwhelming (i.e., not as good as expected), so maybe we should start with that standard for RihRih. She can do better than underwhelming, surely.

[fabian_phipps]

Originally posted by dposton

In what markets? Relative to who?

Us wise, every where else she is slaying the lessors.

[BnPac]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

Well, I hear that BTW's performance so far has been rather underwhelming (i.e., not as good as expected), so maybe we should start with that standard for RihRih. She can do better than underwhelming, surely.

..........this thread

[fabian_phipps]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

Well, I hear that BTW's performance so far has been rather underwhelming (i.e., not as good as expected), so maybe we should start with that standard for RihRih. She can do better than underwhelming, surely.

It this necessary?

[dposton]

Originally posted by fabian_phipps

Us wise, every where else she is slaying the lessors.

Oh of course in the US , she's not performing as well as I believe she could. I personally believe that it has to do with the CB incident. CB and Rihanna have both been weakened digitally in the US since then, mostly because the stans that once supported each others music, hate each other and the artist.

However, things are beginning to turn around as both are returning back to normal...Rihanna is more on a faster pace.....that's just my hypothesis.

[Kworb]

Originally posted by Kworb

Pos	Artist and Title	Popularity
1	Jennifer Lopez - On the Floor (feat. Pitbull)	100.000
2	Katy Perry - E.T. (feat. Kanye West)	89.778
3	Lady GaGa - Born This Way	85.147
4	Rihanna - S&M	79.529
5	Diddy - Dirty Money & Skylar Grey - Coming Home	69.699
6	Britney Spears - Till the World Ends	67.899
7	Ke$ha - Blow	65.941
8	P!nk - F**kin' Perfect	52.550
9	Chris Brown - Look At Me Now (feat. Lil Wayne & Bu...	51.132
10	Dr. Dre - I Need a Doctor (feat. Eminem & Skylar G...	49.954
11	Adele - Rolling In the Deep	45.443
12	Avril Lavigne - What the Hell	43.512
13	Christina Perri - Jar of Hearts	41.068
14	Jeremih & 50 Cent - Down On Me (feat. 50 Cent)	40.228
15	The Black Eyed Peas - Just Can't Get Enough	39.481
16	Bruno Mars - Grenade	37.724
17	Cee Lo Green - Forget You	36.982
18	Glee Cast - Landslide (Glee Cast Version) [feat. G...	39.966
19	Katy Perry - Firework	34.430
20	Pitbull - Hey Baby (Drop It to the Floor) [feat. T...	32.302
21	Usher - More	29.957
22	Lil Wayne - 6 Foot 7 Foot (feat. Cory Gunz)	27.360
23	Keri Hilson - Pretty Girl Rock	25.964
24	Cee Lo Green - F**k You	25.784
25	Enrique Iglesias - Tonight (I'm Lovin' You) [feat....	25.675
26	Kanye West - All of the Lights	25.544
27	Lupe Fiasco - The Show Goes On	23.962
28	Thompson Square - Are You Gonna Kiss Me or Not	24.437
29	Nicki Minaj & Drake - Moment 4 Life	23.035
30	Britney Spears - Hold It Against Me	22.648

[MusicFiend]

Originally posted by dposton

Reading through these pages is a mess. Rihanna is not a HUGE digital monster in the US. That title is for Katy Perry. Rihanna is a WORLDWIDE digital monster.

And to the others who are saying rihanna had promo in the UK. Didnt you say that people will choose to buy the song after the promo week is complete? Rihanna sold 130k for 2 weeks straight.

S&M is performing superbly for a 3rd single. She's ahead GAGA in 8 countries and counting. Hopefully Germany and US will be soon as it will be released in Germany in a week or so , and she's also nominated for an Echo award.

OH YEAH.....

According to the world chart, Mediatraffic, the following artists are having the most success with singles in 2011...so far. As of March 4th. Not to mention 700-800k points she's garned for the last 2 weeks. There's absolutely no argument. Rihanna being #1 will not change for a LONG TIME. Her songs are smashing simulatneously, a feat that very few can accomplish. Sorry Are you ready for S&M , CKB, Cheers and the new single to continue this trend? Because i am. Thankkkkks.

01) Rihanna: 8,164,000
02) Bruno Mars: 6,212,000
03) Katy Perry: 4,742,000
04) P!nk: 3,659,000
05) Black Eyed Peas: 3,163,000
06) Taio Cruz: 2,803,000
07) Pitbull: 2,651,000
08) Ke$ha: 2,455,000
09) Far East Movement: 2,324,000
10) David Guetta: 2,179,000
11) Usher: 2,131,000
12) Enrique Iglesias: 2,018,000
13) Cee Lo Green: 1,971,000
14) Britney Spears: 1,685,000
15) Adele: 1,666,000
16) Chris Brown: 1,592,000
17) Wiz Khalifa: 1,586,000
18) Eminem: 1,580,000
19) Diddy Dirty Money: 1,571,000
20) Lady Gaga: 1,547,000

In terms of money gained by the artist, 1 single sold my Rihanna is not equal to 1 single sold by Lady Gaga or Beyonce. In terns of monetary gain, these numbers are not as comparable as you think. For example, Lady Gaga is the singer, songwriter, and producer (last two shared with other people) of BTW and Rihanna -as far as I know- is only the singer of OG and they get different royalties from each single sold. Given the fact that these people are in this business for money, why should we insist on comparing them on units sold? Just because statistics are more accessible and available is not a valid answer. A better question is, why insist on comparing them all the time...

More importantly, this whole thread and charts in general are overrated by some of the posters here. Charting high and selling more singles are undeniably important things, but just because one artist charts higher or sells more singles does not mean that artist is more "successful" than the other. According to Billboard, Carrie Underwood earned $13.5 million in 2010, more than the sum of what Rihanna and Katy Perry -the chart monsters- has earned in the same year. Daughtry earned more than both of them! The obsession with sales numbers in this thread is of course understandable, but let's not go overboard...

[MonstahNL]

Oh ****, Born This Way is closing the gap with E.T. and leaving S&M behind!

[Symphonic]

Originally posted by MonstahNL

Oh ****, Born This Way is closing the gap with E.T. and leaving S&m behind!

[Bibliotheque]

Gaga +2.17%

[J-cLOUD]

Why is BTW increasing all of a sudden?