[Raava]

Originally posted by KRL

ONE MONTH AGO

WTH #6

[Grin Toll]

Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole

I compared them.

It was in regards to the claim that BTW is too gay for the masses. So I compared its performance to a recent hit song that is also inspirational, but steers clear of any gay content. After less than 4 weeks, the gay song has already sold more.

Funny how you ignored my post


Anyway I can't believe I've been talking about a song that I've only listened to 4 times It was strictly about Katy Perry slaying the competetion until the pressed had arrived. Imma ignore Gaga and her insecure mobs from now on

[Rico Shameless v2]

Originally posted by Grin Toll

Does ****in' Perfect really fit your definition of audience-friendly Cee Lo and her are the highest peaking songs in the history of Billboard with profanity in the title.

Their usage of profanity doesn't make them less radio friendly.

[Nicole]

Originally posted by Grin Toll

Funny how you ignored my post


Anyway I can't believe I've been talking about a song that I've only listened to 4 times It was strictly about Katy Perry slaying the competetion until the pressed had arrived. Imma ignore Gaga and her insecure mobs from now on

So that's about 90 times less than the number of times you've discussed what its final numbers will be. But what's that got to do with discussing sales? I've listened to Pink's new stuff no more than once or twice. I can still talk about her sales.

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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2

Their usage of profanity doesn't make them less radio friendly.

As if they play "****" on the radio. If anything the expletives draw more attention to the song.

[Grin Toll]

Originally posted by Beatz

****in' Perfect: No promotion AT ALL, only relying on airplay and has done nicely being a ballad.

Born This Way: HUGE promotion, has sold a lot in short time, a pop uptempo song, Gaga coming off a HUGE era, a lot of hype.

How are these similar at all? This is so unnecesary omg...

When dem teas be spilled, lessors have to rely on the 100k difference to drag since they cant come for the quality
and Lessors dun kno it's no buzinezz when u spend more on promotion than you earn

Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2

Their usage of profanity doesn't make them less radio friendly.

So I take it you'd be ok with your 6 yo daughter yellin ****ing Perfect. People nowadays....

Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole

So that's about 90 times less than the number of times you've discussed what its final numbers will be. But what's that got to do with discussing sales? I've listened to Pink's new stuff no more than once or twice. I can still talk about her sales.

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As if they play "****" on the radio. If anything the expletives draw more attention to the song.

[Rob!!]

Why has the iTunes thread become a stan war between GaGa stans and P!nks. This so ridiculous.

[Raava]

Originally posted by Grin Toll

Originally posted by Rob!!

Why has the iTunes thread become a stan war between GaGa stans and P!nks. This so ridiculous.

IKR?

[MAKSIM]

You guys are acting as if the promotion for BTW was insane
Lady Gaga performed it once televised
She sat at home and called in to a few radio stations for a 5 minute interview
She went on Leno to not even perform the song

Most of the promotion has been done through twitter, fans, and Miss Maria Aragon who promoted it on various media outlets. Gaga barely had to lift a finger compared to when she promoted the **** out of poker face and just dance

[Nicole]

Originally posted by Rob!!

Why has the iTunes thread become a stan war between GaGa stans and P!nks. This so ridiculous.

Gaga's gay anthem outdid Pink's anthem in less than half the time.

Oh and BTW has only had one performance. She went on Leno but didn't perform - just like Pink went on Ellen while pregnant.

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

Quite the contrary. Fourth week sales:

Born This Way - 231,480 (Cume: 1,474,360)
Bad Romance - 209,385 (Cume: 589,646)

I didn't say it was going to have the longevity that those three singles had, but at this point it has amassed enough of a lead that it doesn't need anywhere near such longevity to pass 4 million. That wouldn't even be matching BR's sales -- BR is going for 5 million. BTW is already outpacing BR's total sales by nearly a million while still selling more on a weekly basis.

I'd agree that the general public probably does not like it as much as JD, PF, or BR, but it's clear that they still do like it otherwise they would not be buying it en masse. I'll say it as many times as it takes to get through -- nobody is forced to buy a song that they don't like. Exposure obviously helps sales, but it won't produce sales if people don't ultimately like what they hear.

Still waiting for a response to this, Grin Troll.

[Symphonic]

Originally posted by KRL

ONE MONTH AGO

[Rico Shameless v2]

Originally posted by Grin Toll

So I take it you'd be ok with your 6 yo daughter yellin ****ing Perfect. People nowadays....

What? They don't play ****ING Perfect on the radio. The edit is perfectly done for it to be overplayed, as it is. You're acting as if the entire song isn't friendly. One word doesn't change that it's a perfectly engineered generic Pop hit. Nor does the fact that it's not being promoted. Nor does the fact that it's from a greatest hits album. You're forcing this "non-radio friendly" issue harder than you P!nk stans force the 'underdog' label, despite her having several Top 40 hits & acceptable album sales.

[Nicole]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

Quite the contrary. Fourth week sales:

Born This Way - 231,480 (Cume: 1,474,360)
Bad Romance - 209,385 (Cume: 589,646)

BR didn't take off until the video/Gossip Girl/AMAs came all at once. Then, holiday sales and performances on Ellen and Leno kept sales going, in addition to things like Glee.

[Rob!!]

Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole

Gaga's gay anthem outdid Pink's anthem in less than half the time.

Oh and BTW has only had one performance. She went on Leno but didn't perform - just like Pink went on Ellen while pregnant.

So what (excuse the pun) Pink is doing great with a greatest hits album. ****in Perfect peaked at 2. I am a GaGa stan but I am not going to undermine another artist sucess!

[BnPac]

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole

BR didn't take off until the video/Gossip Girl/AMAs came all at once. Then, holiday sales and performances on Ellen and Leno kept sales going, in addition to things like Glee.

Yes, although by its fourh week it had already resurged. It's true that BTW will not have the benefit of holiday sales in the next few weeks like BR did, but I think people are underestimating the extent to which it would really have to implode for it to miss out on 4 million in the long run.

[fanoftalent]

No one undermined GaGa's success and she's obviously doing good. But saying that Pink is doing much worse sounds delusional to me. If Pink had performed at Grammys, her sales would have been through the roof, lets not get carried away please.

Yes FP is a generic pop song manufactured to be a hit, just like 99% of the songs charting right now. But performances are probably the biggest boost to songs' sales, so taking into account that FP hasn't had any performances make its achievements look very impressive.

[staracademy1990]

every week two stan groups of two different female artists go at it in this thread

[Rob!!]

Originally posted by fanoftalent

No one undermined GaGa's success and she's obviously doing good. But saying that Pink is doing much worse sounds delusional to me. If Pink had performed at Grammys, her sales would have been through the roof, lets not get carried away please.

Yes FP is a generic pop song manufactured to be a hit, just like 99% of the songs charting right now. But performances are probably the biggest boost to songs' sales, so taking into account that FP hasn't had any performances make its achievements look very impressive.

The most sensible post so far.

[Grin Toll]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

Still waiting for a response to this, Grin Troll.

Video was what made BR what it was and you know promotion, time of the year etc. has a lot to do with sales. Briefly, we won't know BTW's total until we see it. I stated my opinion on how it'll not reach JD/PF/BR sales in a part of post that didn't even have much to do with Gaga. God knows I cud care less, it can sell all it wan, still gonna remain a silly little song with silly little fans to me.

Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2

What? They don't play ****ING Perfect on the radio. The edit is perfectly done for it to be overplayed, as it is. You're acting as if the entire song isn't friendly. One word doesn't change that it's a perfectly engineered generic Pop hit. Nor does the fact that it's not being promoted. Nor does the fact that it's from a greatest hits album. You're forcing this "non-radio friendly" issue harder than you P!nk stans force the 'underdog' label, despite her having several Top 40 hits & acceptable album sales.

I'm not forcing anything, I just told my arguements when one claimed this was the ultimate radio friendly song. While the profanity title might have generated interest in the song, censorship in the song and music video did otherwise and ya she is far from being an underdog, she just likes milkin the idea i guess.

Originally posted by Rob!!

So what (excuse the pun) Pink is doing great with a greatest hits album. ****in Perfect peaked at 2. I am a GaGa stan but I am not going to undermine another artist sucess!

Well maybe you wudnt but some other beach wud get mad even when u compare her succes to herself and call you out cos of their insecurity Gaga is doing amazing, never stated the otherwise.
PS: performances and appearances are not the only form of promotion. some artists prefer to spend a lot on music videos, viral advertising and quirky stage anthics (aka attention ***** mimics)


Now I'm done talking, stay bitter