[Newt]

Don't get it twisted, the Utada stans don't really seem to mind. I checked her fansites before I came here and every stan was disappointed with the sales, but were very glad that she released something in the first place before leaving.

We have nothing to be embarrassed about

[Itsuky]

Originally posted by Newt45

Don't get it twisted, the Utada stans don't really seem to mind. I checked her fansites before I came here and every stan was disappointed with the sales, but were very glad that she released something in the first place before leaving.

We have nothing to be embarrassed about

Ok...................

[Newt]

Originally posted by Itsuky

Ok...................

that wasn't a response to you btw, it was a general statement

[Britneyfan09]

Originally posted by Newt45

Don't get it twisted, the Utada stans don't really seem to mind. I checked her fansites before I came here and every stan was disappointed with the sales, but were very glad that she released something in the first place before leaving.

We have nothing to be embarrassed about

[Itsuky]

Originally posted by Newt45

that wasn't a response to you btw, it was a general statement

Oh.

I'm sure you really do not care about her sales at all, since she's such an indie and underground artist, hm?

[Britneyfan09]

Originally posted by Newt45

All I will say is, we don't have the first week numbers yet. When we finally get them, then judgement can be passed.

If it turns out that it flops, oh well. In the end, no one can be famous forever. Legends like Mariah have flopped dreadfully before but NOTHING will take from their legacy.

If Utada's period of success is over I don't really care. Her sales mean nothing to me (though it would be nice if it sells consistently), only the music.

Of course you would say this right after she flops.

[Britneyfan09]

Originally posted by Itsuky

Oh.

I'm sure you really do not care about her sales at all, since she's such an indie and underground artist, hm?

All of these things are EXACTLY what the Christina stans said regarding Bionic's sales.

[Newt]

Originally posted by britneyfan09

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Originally posted by Itsuky

Oh.

I'm sure you really do not care about her sales at all, since she's such an indie and underground artist, hm?

Of course I care, I want it her sales to be big, she deserves it. What I'm saying is, Koda, Ayumi, and Namie have all had at least one poorly selling album. You as an Ayumi stan, do not care that RNRC sold poorly. Am I right? Sales don't equal quality and sales don't affect fans in any way. (Unless the album sells like 100 copies and the artist is dropped by the label )

[Itsuky]

Originally posted by britneyfan09

All of these things are EXACTLY what the Christina stans said regarding Bionic's sales.

I guess it's hard to admit that your fave is flopping when she was big back in the day. But oh well. It's life isn't it.

[Newt]

Don't compare her to Christina. She has been a MUCH bigger force in Japan than Christina ever was in the US

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2 513.5 B'z The Best "Pleasure" B'z 1 1998/5
3 487.6 REVIEW～BEST OF GLAY GLAY 1 1997/10
4 447.2 Distance 宇多田ヒカル 1 2001/3
5 443.8 B'z The Best "Treasure" B'z 1 1998/9
6 429.4 A BEST 浜崎あゆみ 1 2001/3
7 413.6 globe globe 1 1996/3
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9 353.0 delicious way 倉木麻衣 1 2000/6
10 352.0 Time to Destination

[Britneyfan09]

Originally posted by Newt45

Of course I care, I want it her sales to be big, she deserves it. What I'm saying is, Koda, Ayumi, and Namie have all had at least one poorly selling album. You as an Ayumi stan, do not care that RNRC sold poorly. Am I right? Sales don't equal quality and sales don't affect fans in any way. (Unless the album sells like 100 copies and the artist is dropped by the label )

SCV2 doesn't look like it will outsell RNRC which means RNRC was a smash if it outsold the GH and Farewell album of a legend who once sold 8m with a studio album. :coffee2L

[Itsuky]

Originally posted by Newt45

Of course I care, I want it her sales to be big, she deserves it. What I'm saying is, Koda, Ayumi, and Namie have all had at least one poorly selling album. You as an Ayumi stan, do not care that RNRC sold poorly. Am I right? Sales don't equal quality and sales don't affect fans in any way. (Unless the album sells like 100 copies and the artist is dropped by the label )

The sales weren't THAT bad. It was a regular studio album and Ayu isn't as popular as she once was. BUT this is different. Best Albums are always really successful. If Utada is flopping with a BEST + FAREWELL album...I don't even want to imagine what will happen to her career in the future.

[Newt]

Originally posted by britneyfan09

Of course you would say this right after she flops.

I've always believed that, don't let stanning get in the way. I've always been pretty level-headed about this kind of stuff.

[Itsuky]

Originally posted by Newt45

I've always believed that, don't let stanning get in the way. I've always been pretty level-headed about this kind of stuff.

Well, since you're stanning for Utada, I think you should care

Me, as an ASHLEY TISDALE stan, I don't really care for her sales because I know she isn't going to be big in the music industry, so I just care about her music.

BUT as an AYUMI HAMASAKI stan, I care about her sales because she's the biggest and most known J-Pop artist internationally. If she starts to flop like THAT...it's not a good thing.

[Newt]

Originally posted by britneyfan09

SCV2 doesn't look like it will outsell RNRC which means RNRC was a smash if it outsold the GH and Farewell album of a legend who once sold 8m with a studio album. :coffee2L

Originally posted by Itsuky

The sales weren't THAT bad. It was a regular studio album and Ayu isn't as popular as she once was. BUT this is different. Best Albums are always really successful. If Utada is flopping with a BEST + FAREWELL album...I don't even want to imagine what will happen to her career in the future.

You guys completely missed the point.

I'm not comparing the two albums. RNRC DID have poor sales, lets not even try to argue against that. Ayumi used to be able to sell a good amount of albums and she struggled to do so during that era. No point in fighting that. My point is that the music was not bad to her fans despite poor sales.

I know you guys are just trying to demean Utada's album, but come on, are you telling me that what I am saying really doesn't make sense to you?

[Britneyfan09]

Originally posted by Newt45

You guys completely missed the point.

I'm not comparing the two albums. RNRC DID have poor sales, lets not even try to argue against that. Ayumi used to be able to sell a good amount of albums and she struggled to do so during that era. No point in fighting that. My point is that the music was not bad to her fans despite poor sales.

I know you guys are just trying to demean Utada's album, but come on, are you telling me that what I am saying really doesn't make sense to you?

Oh come on sis give Ayu a break. After being one of the most popular female stars for over 12 years without a break and slaying her sales are fine.

[Itsuky]

Originally posted by Newt45

You guys completely missed the point.

I'm not comparing the two albums. RNRC DID have poor sales, lets not even try to argue against that. Ayumi used to be able to sell a good amount of albums and she struggled to do so during that era. No point in fighting that. My point is that the music was not bad to her fans despite poor sales.

I know you guys are just trying to demean Utada's album, but come on, are you telling me that what I am saying really doesn't make sense to you?

The new Utada songs are good, indeed, but we're not talking about music here. We're talking about sales.

[Newt]

Originally posted by Itsuky

Well, since you're stanning for Utada, I think you should care

Me, as an ASHLEY TISDALE stan, I don't really care for her sales because I know she isn't going to be big in the music industry, so I just care about her music.

BUT as an AYUMI HAMASAKI stan, I care about her sales because she's the biggest and most known J-Pop artist internationally. If she starts to flop like THAT...it's not a good thing.

You shouldn't care

How exactly do her sales affect your enjoyment of the stuff she puts out? I mean, unless you are getting a check directly from her label. If that's happening, then you should care about sales.

[❄ Frosty ❄]

Originally posted by Newt45

You guys completely missed the point.

I'm not comparing the two albums. RNRC DID have poor sales, lets not even try to argue against that. Ayumi used to be able to sell a good amount of albums and she struggled to do so during that era. No point in fighting that. My point is that the music was not bad to her fans despite poor sales.

I know you guys are just trying to demean Utada's album, but come on, are you telling me that what I am saying really doesn't make sense to you?

But your wrong about the RNRC sales

It sold poor compared to her other albums, but her album still sold reasonably well.

[Itsuky]

Originally posted by Newt45

You shouldn't care

How exactly do her sales affect your enjoyment of the stuff she puts out? I mean, unless you are getting a check directly from her label. If that's happening, then you should care about sales.

Because if big artists who used to sell MILLIONS start to flop like there's no tomorrow, their label could get ride of them.