[Britneyfan09]

Originally posted by AyuM

Kumi will not even come close Namie's #s, let alone Kana's. Namie might drop, but I can see her moving 400,000 - 450,000 at worst.

On the other hand, in 2011, I can see Kumi dropping below the 300k mark.

Thats your prediction and strictly your opinion so you can think whatever you want. Either way I'm happy as long as Kumi outsells Ayu no matter by how much.

[❄ Frosty ❄]

Originally posted by britneyfan09

New Ayu promo shot

Tooo big

[AyuM]

Originally posted by britneyfan09

Thats your prediction and strictly your opinion so you can think whatever you want. Either way I'm happy as long as Kumi outsells Ayu no matter by how much.

Kumi might outsell Ayu's next album by 2k or 3k or even 10k, but Ayumi always holds a massive lead singles-wise. And they both do similar digitals/ringtones, so Ayumi still has the overall lead.

[Lararen]

Originally posted by AyuM

Kumi will not increase her album sales and as much as I am an Ayu stan, she might fail to do so as well.

Kumi is bound to continue her steep decline, but at a slower rate, thank god. Her record sales were dropping out of control in 2007-2010. At least she will reduce the drop rate.

As for 2011, the battle will be between Namie & Kana, Kumi is out of the question. She will battle with Ayumi, again.

Dont think thats true seeing as Avex will use her 10 year anniversary to promote her more. Namie most likely won't sell more than Past Future because the hype from Best Fiction is gone and Ayumi, as hard as it is to admit, can't really sell more than 300k at this point. Unless she does a best album which would proably be smart at this point

[Britneyfan09]

Originally posted by AyuM

Kumi might outsell Ayu's next album by 2k or 3k or even 10k, but Ayumi always holds a massive lead singles-wise. And they both do similar digitals/ringtones, so Ayumi still has the overall lead.

I could go into a long debate but I really don't feel like it tbh. We'll see when Love songs and Kumi's new album sales come in. Then we'll talk.

[AyuM]

Originally posted by Lararen

Dont think thats true seeing as Avex will use her 10 year anniversary to promote her more. Namie most likely won't sell more than Past Future because the hype from Best Fiction is gone and Ayumi, as hard as it is to admit, can't really sell more than 300k at this point. Unless she does a best album which would proably be smart at this point

I'm not expecting an increase for Namie... Did you read my post?

I'm expecting a drop for her. But she will most likely fall to 450k or 400k at worst, enough to pwn Kumi and Ayumi album-wise.

[Britneyfan09]

Anybody excited for Hikki's numbers tomorrow? I can't wait to see her smash

[AyuM]

Originally posted by britneyfan09

I could go into a long debate but I really don't feel like it tbh. We'll see when Love songs and Kumi's new album sales come in. Then we'll talk.

Long debate? hmm... I don't think so, since Ayumi clearly wins if all factors are accounted.

And, yes, I guess we'll have to wait & see.

[Britneyfan09]

Originally posted by AyuM

Long debate? hmm... I don't think so, since Ayumi clearly wins if all factors are accounted.

And, yes, I guess we'll have to wait & see.

Suki De has been a bigger hit then anything Ayu has released this year. But as I said before I'm really not in the mood so please stop. I'm excited for both Ayu and Kuu's albums so I don't really care what sales predictions you have or what you think who is more successful as of recently. Stop being so ignorant and cocky.

[AyuM]

btw, I expect first day sales of 250k at least for Hikki.

I think first week sales will reach 600k - 700k. I predict total sales of 1,2 million+.

[❄ Frosty ❄]

Yes, let us keep peace between the Ayu and Kumi stans

[Lararen]

Originally posted by AyuM

Long debate? hmm... I don't think so, since Ayumi clearly wins if all factors are accounted.

And, yes, I guess we'll have to wait & see.

Ill take some of whatever magical drug your taking....

[Britneyfan09]

Originally posted by Sir. Frost

Yes, let us keep peace between the Ayu and Kumi stans

Yupp. Sorry if any of my Ayu stans got offended. You all know I love both Ayu and Kumi and wish both of them success.

[Lararen]

Originally posted by britneyfan09

Yupp. Sorry if any of my Ayu stans got offended. You all know I love both Ayu and Kumi and wish both of them success.

Same!

[Britneyfan09]

Some Ayu stans created this for fun.

[AyuM]

Originally posted by britneyfan09

Suki De has been a bigger hit then anything Ayu has released this year. But as I said before I'm really not in the mood so please stop. I'm excited for both Ayu and Kuu's albums so I don't really care what sales predictions you have or what you think who is more successful as of recently. Stop being so ignorant and cocky.

Umm, sorry, no. You are NOT aware of the exact numbers Ayumi has done ringtone wise.

And RIAJ Digital Top 100 is not a very accurate gauge of popularity, as PC sales are a small part of the Japanese industry.

And even if we limited our stan war in RIAJ Digital Top 100 (which is dumb): Ayumi has had #1s there in 2010 too. Therefore, her digital sales + physical sales + rigntone sales of Ayumi probably pwn Koda.

RIAJ
Can We Go Back: #6
Lollipop: #1
Suki De: #1

Moon: #1
7 songs from RNRC charted in the top 50 mostly.
2 more top 10 hits

Their RIAJ Digital Top 100 sales is pretty much equal overall. And since PC sales are a small part of the game in Japan, that does not mean anything.

Even is we tried to calculate their ringtone sales, we would not be able to reach accurate numbers. And, in any case, ringtone sales are not real sales.

So single wise, Ayumi wins.

[Britneyfan09]

Originally posted by AyuM

Umm, sorry, no. You are NOT aware of the exact numbers Ayumi has done ringtone wise.

And RIAJ Digital Top 100 is not a very accurate gauge of popularity, as PC sales are a small part of the Japanese industry.

And even if we limited our stan war in RIAJ Digital Top 100 (which is dumb): Ayumi has had #1s there in 2010 too. Therefore, her digital sales + physical sales + rigntone sales of Ayumi probably pwn Koda.

Can We Go Back: #6
Lollipop: #1
Suki De: #1

Moon: #1
7 songs from RNRC charted in the top 50 mostly.
2 more top 10 hits

Their RIAJ Digital Top 100 sales is pretty much equal overall. And since PC sales are a small part of the game in Japan, that does not mean anything.

Even is we tried to calculate their ringtone sales, we would not be able to reach accurate numbers. And, in any case, ringtone sales are not real sales.

So single wise, Ayumi wins.

I'm not bothering with this. You said we have no way to accurately calculate overall digital sales yet you easily said Ayu pwns Kumi. Anyways I already said before I'm not in the mood to type paragraphs. I love both Ayu and Kumi and will not break the pact between us two legendary stanbases over any minor issue.

[AyuM]

Originally posted by Lararen

Ill take some of whatever magical drug your taking....

... I'm speaking the truth. Maybe you need a nice dose of a reality check.

[AyuM]

Originally posted by britneyfan09

You said we have no way to accurately calculate overall digital sales yet you easily said Ayu pwns Kumi.

I was referring to ringtone sales (which are not actual sales in any case). It is impossible to get accurate figures for singles/tracks that remain uncertified.

PC sales-wise it is easier to estimate what is going on. And Ayu/Ku's total peaks and certifications show that they have sold more or less the same number of PC downloads in 2010. And keep in ind that PC sales are rather unimportant in Japan, as I already said.

Therefore, Ayumi's big physical lead gives her the overall victory.

[Britneyfan09]

Originally posted by AyuM

I was referring to ringtone sales (which are not actual sales in any case). It is impossible to get accurate figures for singles/tracks that remain uncertified.

PC sales-wise it is easier to estimate what is going on. And Ayu/Ku's total peaks and certifications show that they have sold more or less the same number of PC downloads in 2010. And keep in ind that PC sales are rather unimportant in Japan, as I already said.

Therefore, Ayumi's big physical lead gives her the overall victory.

I already said I'm not going to argue with you so I won't go on even though I can. In the end I just want both to be successful so I don't really care.