Discussion: Archived: The J-Pop Discussion Thread (#1) - Page 586

Britneyfan09

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Originally posted by Newt45

I'm not even kidding though, its sad if you guys consider last night to be a dragging

I'm sorry but you looked like a damn FOOL last night trying to say Utada, Utada Hikaru, Hikaru Utada, 宇多田ヒカル, are not the same thing.

It was probably the weakest most pathetic attempt I have ever seen at defending Hikki and that says something.

Britneyfan09

To put it in simple words Hikki is the Christina Aguilera of J-Pop. She is the easiest to drag and her stans are some of the most delusional things alive.

Newt

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Originally posted by britneyfan09

I'm sorry but you looked like a damn FOOL last night trying to say Utada, Utada Hikaru, Hikaru Utada, 宇多田ヒカル, are not the same thing.

It was probably the weakest most pathetic attempt I have ever seen at defending Hikki and that says something.

You are exasperating the content to make it look much worse

We all know TITO did badly but it was not a flop by Utada's standards. I know your not going to listen to me when I say this but a good amount of her fanbase don't care for her English album.

More importantly, could Koda? I know you like to dodge the hard questions and brush them off by changing the subject to Hikki but I see through your failed shade

Britneyfan09

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Originally posted by Newt45

You are exasperating the content to make it look much worse

We all know TITO did badly but it was not a flop by Utada's standards. I know your not going to listen to me when I say this but a good amount of her fanbase don't care for her English album.

More importantly, could Koda? I know you like to dodge the hard questions and brush them off by changing the subject to Hikki but I see through your failed shade

Let me say this again for the 10000th time.

1.) Her fanbase DOES care for her English albums. Exodus is her best selling studio album in Japan from the past six years. They clearly do care

2.) Like I said before NO ONE is here for Ifs, buts, could, etc. We are here for facts and fact is Utada FLOPPED. End of story!

Newt

Calling Utada the Aguilera of Japan is wrong and you know it

I hope Koda enjoyed her period of mediocre sales while Utada was releasing an English album. We all know Britfan is ecstatic Utada isn't going to be releasing Japanese studio albums for a while and pummeling Koda's album into the ground.

Britneyfan09

I can't wait till SCV2 numbers roll in. I am so ready to drag like no other.

Newt

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Originally posted by britneyfan09

Let me say this again for the 10000th time.

1.) Her fanbase DOES care for her English albums. Exodus is her best selling studio album in Japan from the past six years. They clearly do care

2.) Like I said before NO ONE is here for Ifs, buts, could, etc. We are here for facts and fact is Utada FLOPPED. End of story!

It was her FIRST english album. Have you heard Exodus before Britfan. If you have, you will believe me when I say it was nothing like her earlier work. That album turned off a lot of her fans and they made the correlation that English album = Bad album as incorrect as that may be.

And there you go again brushing off the obvious. You don't seem to understand that an English album won't do as well in Japan as a Japanese album

Britneyfan09

Utada could NEVER.

Itsuky

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Originally posted by Newt45

And dead, what are you going on about, you were the first to leave

It was 6:00 AM. I was sleepy.

Britneyfan09

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Originally posted by Newt45

It was her FIRST english album. Have you heard Exodus before Britfan. If you have, you will believe me when I say it was nothing like her earlier work. That album turned off a lot of her fans and they made the correlation that English album = Bad album as incorrect as that may be.

And there you go again brushing off the obvious. You don't seem to understand that an English album won't do as well in Japan as a Japanese album

That is your own personal opinion of the album. It is in NO way a fact. And if an English album won't do as well in Japan as a Japanese album why is Exodus Hikki's best selling studio album from the last 6 years? Once again you can't seem to admit Hikki has had a huge downfall from 2008.

Newt

Britfan should just stop before he fail-whales the thread

Itsuky

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Originally posted by Newt45

It was her FIRST english album. Have you heard Exodus before Britfan. If you have, you will believe me when I say it was nothing like her earlier work. That album turned off a lot of her fans and they made the correlation that English album = Bad album as incorrect as that may be.

And there you go again brushing off the obvious. You don't seem to understand that an English album won't do as well in Japan as a Japanese album

We already told you 3532464332523465476 times last night that we're not here for excuses. We're here for the FACTS.

❄ Frosty ❄

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Originally posted by Itsuky

It was 6:00 AM. I was sleepy.

BISH!!! How long do you sleep?

I could never stay awake until 6am

Britneyfan09

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Originally posted by Newt45

I should just stop before I fail-whale this thread

FINALLY!

Britneyfan09

Hikki is going to her ass dragged so badly through the mud on November 24th. Anything less then 600k and

Itsuky

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Originally posted by Sir. Frost

BISH!!! How long do you sleep?

I could never stay awake until 6am

I'm looking for a job right now so I'm doing nothing and my sleep schedule is messed up

I've been going to bed @ 6am lately and waking up @ 3pm or so

Itsuky

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Originally posted by britneyfan09

Hikki is going to her ass dragged so badly through the mud on November 24th. Anything less then 600k and

I can't wait.

❄ Frosty ❄

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Originally posted by Itsuky

I'm looking for a job right now so I'm doing nothing and my sleep schedule is messed up

I've been going to bed @ 6am lately and waking up @ 3pm or so

9 hours sleep isn't too bad

I'm a health freak, which is why I'm not here for the Hikki dragging sessions.

Itsuky

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Originally posted by Sir. Frost

9 hours sleep isn't too bad

I'm a health freak, which is why I'm not here for the Hikki dragging sessions.

Well we'll try to do it earlier next time

Newt

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Originally posted by britneyfan09

That is your own personal opinion of the album. It is in NO way a fact. And if an English album won't do as well in Japan as a Japanese album why is Exodus Hikki's best selling studio album from the last 6 years? Once again you can't seem to admit Hikki has had a huge downfall from 2008.

Were you not the first to admit that sales took a plunge 2006-present? Exodus was released in 2004.

It is NOT a fact but not everything HAS to be, it is common psychology. There can be hundreds of reasons why her fans did not buy the album. Why would anyone ever be able to pinpoint it on one thing. For example, why don't you tell me why Ayumi's albums have been selling less after each and every release. From what I can tell her music is still good but those sales keep going down. Are you telling me you can find ONE reasons why this is happening, ONE fact?

You are not an Utada stan and could never understand what would go through the mind of a stan or fan when they looked at TITO. The biggest complaints were that Exodus sucked and they did not want to try her English stuff again and that TITO was "generic"

Utada didn't have a huge downfall. Its clear that her popularity has dwindled a little but you are making that seem like its an enormous fall. I'm sure you are going to bring up Heart Station to TITO sales again and I will once again bring up the Japanese vs. English album debate and this will just start over again so I am just going to say that it is A FACT that we will never know by how much Utada's popularity has lowered until she releases a Japanese album, and not compare it using an English album like your reaching ass is doing.