[Buyonce1814]

Originally posted by Reverie

Once again a reminder that MIAMTEC is her most musically diverse, artistically ambitious, most personal, and very best album, and if it's not at least in your top 3 you probably don't even know why you actually stan Mariah

Charmbracelet says hi (R&B, pop, gospel, rock, country, soul)

Glitter says what's good

Butterfly says asalamalaikam

[Reverie]

Originally posted by Buyonce1814

Charmbracelet says hi (R&B, pop, gospel, rock, country, soul)

Glitter says what's good

Butterfly says asalamalaikam

MIAMTEC consists of nearly every genre Mariah has ever done in her career.

Piano ballads (Cry, Camouflage)
RnB breakup midtempos (Faded, You're Mine)
Doowop/Motown influenced (Make It Look Good)
Hazy, understated "nostalgic" fan favorites (Dedicated, Money)
Disco (You Don't Know What To Do)
Gospel (Heavenly)
80s Power Ballad covers (One More Try)
Urban/Hip Hop (Thirsty)

As well as two songs that introduced a new sound (#Beautiful with Miguel's alt rock influence) and a new writing style (Meteorite)

You were saying?

Glitter? Gurl!
And what's the country song in Charmbracelet?

[Buyonce1814]

Originally posted by Reverie

MIAMTEC consists of nearly every genre Mariah has ever done in her career.

Piano ballads (Cry, Camouflage)
RnB midtempos - her whole career (Faded, You're Mine)
Doowop/Motown (Make It Look Good)
Disco sequel to I'm That Chick (You Don't Know What To Do)
Gospel that wasn't needed (Heavenly)
80s Power Ballad cover that no one wanted (One More Try)
Contemporary Urban that she's recycled since Migrate (Thirsty)

As well as two songs that introduced a new sound (#Beautiful with Miguel's alt rock influence) and a new writing style (Meteorite)

You were saying?

Glitter? Gurl.

She has all that on almost every album since TEOM . Miamtec offers nothing new.

Piano ballad – Sunflowers
Ballad – Through The Rain
Contemp urban – Boy was the urban of it’s time
R&B – You Got Me
Jazz influence - subtle Invitation
Shady bop – Clown
Gospel/Christian influence – My Saving Grace
Rock inspired & 80s cover – Bringin’ on the Heartbreak
Rap/Hip-Hop – I Know What You want

Glitter was ambitious because it was a completely different sound for her. Such a shame it's only a soundtrack.

Where is the alt-rock influence on #B? . It's a pop/R&B song through and through.

[Reverie]

Originally posted by Buyonce1814

She has all that on almost every album since TEOM .

Glitter was ambitious because it was a completely different sound for her. Such a shame it's only a soundtrack.

Where is the alt-rock influence on #B? . It's a pop/R&B song through and through.

Yes, she really learned how to diversify herself and experiment with sounds in her later works, even tho they aren't on the same level of quality or diversity as MIAMTEC. My point still stands. Poor Charmbracelet and poor Glitter

Glitter was a different sound sure, still nowhere near as diverse as MIAMTEC nor as big a statement as an album depicting every step of her pre-divorce life with Nick, not to mention the actual quality of the writing.

It's not alt rock at all obviously but it's still a new sound she probably would have never done if not for Miguel's influence. Here are two songs for comparison in the backing guitar, from Miguel's continuation to the the song he lowkey ripped off from

Meteorite was also a refreshing new writing style for Mariah

And despite those two the point of MIAM is not to "offer nothing new" because it is the truest to herself Mariah has ever been on an album, you kinda missed it then!

[Buyonce1814]

Originally posted by Reverie

Yes, she really learned how to diversify herself and experiment with sounds in her later works, even tho they aren't on the same level of quality or diversity as MIAMTEC. My point still stands. Poor Charmbracelet and poor Glitter

Glitter was a different sound sure, still nowhere near as diverse as MIAMTEC nor as big a statement as an album depicting every step of her pre-divorce life with Nick, not to mention the actual quality of the writing.

It's not alt rock at all obviously but it's still a new sound she probably would have never done if not for Miguel's influence. Here are two songs for comparison in the backing guitar, from Miguel's continuation to the the song they lowkey ripped off from

Meteorite was also a refreshing new writing style for Mariah

And despite those two the point of MIAM is not to "offer nothing new" because it is the truest to herself Mariah has ever been on an album, you kinda missed it then!

I still think Charmy is more diverse. Sorry. Miamtec is too reductive for me to take half of it seriously (the 2nd half). I mean I'd prefer to listen to a one minute outro over half of the album. And calling her 14th album her "truest to herself" is a bit of a disservice to her, no? She's said the same about Butterfly. And E=MC2.
.

[Reverie]

Diversity is not the same as novelty btw!

Piano ballads (Cry, Camouflage)
RnB midtempos - her whole career (Faded, You're Mine) - Nothing wrong with that!
Doowop/Motown (Make It Look Good)
Disco sequel to I'm That Chick (You Don't Know What To Do) Other than being of the Disco genre, not really! I'm That Chick is a direct nod to Off The Wall, YDKWTD comes with a glamorous Donna-esque intro, sweeping strings and all.
Gospel that wasn't needed (Heavenly) - But it literally was, it's the cathartic moment on the album that chronicles the most troubling period of her life of recent years. Way more than a random gospel moment for the sake of it
80s Power Ballad cover that no one wanted (One More Try) - The same is said for the entirety of the Charmbracelet album but you don't see me frontin!
Contemporary Urban that she's recycled since Migrate (Thirsty) - And managed to turn it from a generic club banger to a personal cry against her husband's mistreatment of her. Talk about evolution!

Originally posted by Buyonce1814

She has all that on almost every album since TEOM . Miamtec offers nothing new.

Piano ballad – Sunflowers
Ballad – Through The Rain
Contemp urban – Boy was the urban of it’s time
R&B – You Got Me
Jazz influence - subtle Invitation
Shady bop – Clown
Gospel/Christian influence – My Saving Grace
Rock inspired & 80s cover – Bringin’ on the Heartbreak
Rap/Hip-Hop – I Know What You want

Piano Ballad/Ballad, Urban/R&B/Shady bop, and you called MIAM reductive

Originally posted by Buyonce1814

I still think Charmy is more diverse. Sorry. Miamtec is too reductive for me to take half of it seriously (the 2nd half). I mean I'd prefer to listen to a one minute outro over half of the album. And calling her 14th album her "truest to herself" is a bit of a disservice to her, no? She's said the same about Butterfly. And E=MC2.
.

The only thing reductive about the second half is One More Try tho! Heavenly, Camouflage, Money, Meteorite are all necessities in the arc of the album and career highlights. I mean these are tracks that actually pertain to what was happening to Mariah at the time, if they're reductive what would you call Mariah's other songs?

It would make perfect sense for her 14th and oldest album to be her truest actually. Since that comes with age, confidence, musical maturity, etc. It's her being able to step back and take a look at her career, her marriage, her kids, and come to terms with everything. E=MC2 is also a very free and laidback album. Butterfly is very Mariah but I mean we all know she was still struggling with Tommy n co back then, was still making remixes on the side to better express her artistry, etc


I'm not trying to force you to suddenly love MIAM btw, I just have the need to tug @ the people who come for it

[Buyonce1814]

Originally posted by Reverie

Diversity is not the same as novelty btw!

Piano ballads (Cry, Camouflage)
RnB midtempos - her whole career (Faded, You're Mine) - Nothing wrong with that!
Doowop/Motown (Make It Look Good)
Disco sequel to I'm That Chick (You Don't Know What To Do) Other than being of the Disco genre, not really! I'm That Chick is a direct nod to Off The Wall, YDKWTD comes with a glamorous Donna-esque intro, sweeping strings and all.
Gospel that wasn't needed (Heavenly) - But it literally was, it's the cathartic moment on the album that chronicles the most troubling period of her life of recent years. Way more than a random gospel moment for the sake of it
80s Power Ballad cover that no one wanted (One More Try) - The same is said for the entirety of the Charmbracelet album but you don't see me frontin!
Contemporary Urban that she's recycled since Migrate (Thirsty) - And managed to turn it from a generic club banger to a personal cry against her husband's mistreatment of her. Talk about evolution!



Piano Ballad/Ballad, Urban/R&B/Shady bop, and you called MIAM reductive



The only thing reductive about the second half is One More Try tho! Heavenly, Camouflage, Money, Meteorite are all necessities in the arc of the album and career highlights. I mean these are tracks that actually pertain to what was happening to Mariah at the time, if they're reductive what would you call Mariah's other songs?

It would make perfect sense for her 14th and oldest album to be her truest no? Since that comes with age, confidence, musical maturity, etc. MIAM covers a wider range of the music and sounds that's become important to her career since it came later. It's her being able to step back and take a look at her career, her marriage, her kids, and come to terms with everything. E=MC2 is also a very free and laidback album. Butterfly is very Mariah but I mean we all know she was still struggling with Tommy n co back then, was still making remixes on the side to better express her artistry, etc

Please don't use the word novelty. I heard it too many times from the J Thots

You can shove all the bargain bin copies of MIAMTEC up my ass until I'm pooping glitter but it won't change the fact that after track 10 the album is a snoozefest (I always include deluxe edition tracks when talking about an album btw)

I misunderstood and mistook the "truest self" comment as you downplaying the other "true self" albums I mentioned. You are right - that does make sense.

[Ivory.]

Someone make sure to post this somewhere on the first page of the new base: https://twitter.com/fadedcrystal/sta...46841394511872

[feelslikeadream]

Originally posted by Rocket

http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1029990

nnnnnn and I see Kim K online all the time. He/she better reopen the thread and finish up before the update!

[Orpheus]

Originally posted by jdmc218

Psalms 129:2 - They have greatly oppressed me from my youth, but they have not gained victory over me! I wish you well!

This is one of my favourite scriptures now. So happy I Wish You Well led me to it.

[feelslikeadream]

Reverie earning my Hero Award vote with that dissertation on MIAM Bu earning my Thanx 4 Nothin' vote

Has anyone figured out how to save a thread? I did the "print" option, but that's page by page

[Reverie]

Originally posted by Buyonce1814

Please don't use the word novelty. I heard it too many times from the J Thots

You can shove all the bargain bin copies of MIAMTEC up my ass until I'm pooping glitter but it won't change the fact that after track 10 the album is a snoozefest (I always include deluxe edition tracks when talking about an album btw)

I misunderstood and mistook the "truest self" comment as you downplaying the other "true self" albums I mentioned. You are right - that does make sense.

Now wayment, how'd we get here?

Originally posted by feelslikeadream

Reverie earning my Hero Award vote with that dissertation on MIAM Bu earning my Thanx 4 Nothin' vote

Has anyone figured out how to save a thread? I did the "print" option, but that's page by page

I'm pretty sure that's the only way You can use some app or extension that automatically screenshots entire pages to make it a little easier I guess

[Buyonce1814]

Originally posted by Reverie

Now wayment, how'd we get here?



I'm pretty sure that's the only way You can use some app or extension that automatically screenshots entire pages to make it a little easier I guess

I'm trolling boo .

[Reverie]

Originally posted by Buyonce1814

I'm trolling boo .

That's also what I say to the straights who tell me they don't want the succ!

[Buyonce1814]

Originally posted by Reverie

That's also what I say to the straights who tell me they don't want the succ!

I just choked on some gum

Also you cursed me. Miamtec songs keep coming up on shuffles

[feelslikeadream]

Originally posted by Buyonce1814

I just choked on some gum

What kind of typo the C and G keys aren't even that close.

[Buyonce1814]

Originally posted by feelslikeadream

What kind of typo the C and G keys aren't even that close.

I hate you so much right now

[jdmc218]

Though I like it when Mariah diversifies, I usually like more the consistency of her albums like Daydream and MOAIA. Sometimes when she tries to diversify on one album, even though the songs are great, it make the album sound a little cluttered. But I think MIAMTEC works for its diversity.

[feelslikeadream]

Originally posted by jdmc218

Though I like it when Mariah diversifies, I usually like more the consistency of her albums like Daydream and MOAIA. Sometimes when she tries to diversify on one album, even though the songs are great, it make the album sound a little cluttered. But I think MIAMTEC works for its diversity.

What album do you think sounds cluttered?

[jdmc218]

Originally posted by feelslikeadream

What album do you think sounds cluttered?

Glitter