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Poll: No one has overtaken Mariah since she debuted.
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True that!
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Nah u tripping
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I'm lowkey hungry
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it should be noted that while she debuted prior to Mariah, Céline has sold more records than Mariah since Mariah's debut.
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Originally posted by stevyy
come back when Beyoncé has a global smash single at the age of 46. Og wait she's struggling even now to get her music to the people.
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this is just tacky, and as we know, inaccurate.
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Originally posted by exfactor003
it should be noted that while she debuted prior to Mariah, Céline has sold more records than Mariah since Mariah's debut.
this is just tacky, and as we know, inaccurate.
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But... Formation made less top 10's and less top 20 position in its lifetime than AIWFCIY did in 2016...
Formation: (a few months old song)
Top 10: 9
Top 20: 11
AIWFCIY: (22 years old song)
Top 10: 12 + Belgium (where it isn't allowed to re-chart: #1 on the catalogue chart)
Top 20: 19
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Originally posted by stevyy
But... Formation made less top 10's and less top 20 position in its lifetime than AIWFCIY did in 2016...
Formation: (a few months old song)
Top 10: 9
Top 20: 11
AIWFCIY: (22 years old song)
Top 10: 12 + Belgium (where it isn't allowed to re-chart: #1 on the catalogue chart)
Top 20: 19
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lol what is this comparison?
One song is a highly promoted, highly rotated, annual classic that will come back due to nostalgia and the repetition of traditions being an integral part of the holiday season.
The other is a standard single released, handled unconventionally with no promotion after being free for months, with a video that was unlisted until 2 weeks ago.
All the respect should be for Mariah for conquering this market but comparing it’s success is silly. Otherwise we could say that Bing Crosby having a 35 year old song, White Christmas, peaking at #3 in in the UK in 1977 means something about his relevance at the time. There's no doubt that AIWFCIY will be far more remembered and listened to than Formation though.
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In the United States nobody has surpassed her since she debuted: soundscan:
1990 - 4,890,200 - Mariah Carey
1991 - 3,597,000 - Emotions
1992 - 2,775,700 - MTV Unplugged
1993 - 7,282,500 - Music Box
1994 - 5,544,100 - Merry Christmas
1995 - 7,626.000 - Daydream
1997 - 3,812,900 - Butterfly
1998 - 3,831,000 - #1's
1999 - 2,971,950 - Rainbow
2001 - 652,800 - Glitter
2001 - 1,224,300 - Greatest Hits
2002 - 1,168,400 - Charmbracelet
2003 - 281,277 - The Remixes
2005 - 6,080,000 - The Emancipation of Mimi
2008 - 1,294,300 - E=MC²
2009 - 162,560 - The Ballads
2009 - 549,800 - Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel
2010 - 523,000 - Merry Christmas II You
2014 - 122,000 - Me. I am Mariah... The Elusive Chanteuse
2015 - 42,356 - #1 to Infinity
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2010 - 11,960 - The Very Best Of
2011 - 28,722 - Essential
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Originally posted by stevyy
In the United States nobody has surpassed her since she debuted: soundscan:
1990 - 4,890,200 - Mariah Carey
1991 - 3,597,000 - Emotions
1992 - 2,775,700 - MTV Unplugged
1993 - 7,282,500 - Music Box
1994 - 5,544,100 - Merry Christmas
1995 - 7,626.000 - Daydream
1997 - 3,812,900 - Butterfly
1998 - 3,831,000 - #1's
1999 - 2,971,950 - Rainbow
2001 - 652,800 - Glitter
2001 - 1,224,300 - Greatest Hits
2002 - 1,168,400 - Charmbracelet
2003 - 281,277 - The Remixes
2005 - 6,080,000 - The Emancipation of Mimi
2008 - 1,294,300 - E=MC²
2009 - 162,560 - The Ballads
2009 - 549,800 - Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel
2010 - 523,000 - Merry Christmas II You
2014 - 122,000 - Me. I am Mariah... The Elusive Chanteuse
2015 - 42,356 - #1 to Infinity
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2010 - 11,960 - The Very Best Of
2011 - 28,722 - Essential
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This is slayage.
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Originally posted by Eternium
Very few females hold this honor. Madonna, Celine, Mariah, Britney, Taylor and Adele 
I was just listening to Side Effects, Migrate, H.A.T.E.U. and Bye Bye! |
With albums sales/singles sales/streams equivalents:
Madonna(244m)=>Celine(192.1m)=>Mariah(???)
=>Beyoncé(106.9m)=>Britney(97.1m)=>Adele(72.9)=>La dy Gaga(45m)=>Susan Boyle(???)
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Originally posted by Eternium
Very few females hold this honor. Madonna, Celine, Mariah, Britney, Taylor and Adele
I was just listening to Side Effects, Migrate, H.A.T.E.U. and Bye Bye! |
Adele has overtaken taylor now 
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No one after Mariah has had her success even in todays equivalent of sales. Mariahs 90s run was flawless
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Originally posted by Rei
With numbers alone no one will because sales have declined.
Taking everything into account multiple popgirls have surpassed her since.
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I'm not even a proper stan, and this is honestly one of the most delusional, discrediting posts I've seen on ATRL. You should request a permaban.
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Originally posted by Pavement Princess
Rihanna has.
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we're talking 16 weeks at number one sis, not 16 inches from brow to hairline. We're talking 18 number one songs, not 18 features. We're talking 200+ million albums sold, not 200+ million free streams. We're talking 5 octaves, not a frog croak. So no she hasn't.
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Originally posted by Touchdown
we're talking 16 weeks at number one sis, not 16 inches from brow to hairline. We're talking 18 number one songs, not 18 features. We're talking 200+ million albums sold, not 200+ million free streams. We're talking 5 octaves, not a frog croak. So no she hasn't.
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Mariah Carey is GOAT!
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Originally posted by Touchdown
we're talking 16 weeks at number one sis, not 16 inches from brow to hairline. We're talking 18 number one songs, not 18 features. We're talking 200+ million albums sold, not 200+ million free streams. We're talking 5 octaves, not a frog croak. So no she hasn't.
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Sayonara
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Originally posted by Touchdown
we're talking 16 weeks at number one sis, not 16 inches from brow to hairline. We're talking 18 number one songs, not 18 features. We're talking 200+ million albums sold, not 200+ million free streams. We're talking 5 octaves, not a frog croak. So no she hasn't.
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Jesus when the lambs come they come to knock
I love Mariah and I think that she's amazing and only a few girls have enough talent and success to compare to her. Those two are Beyoncé and P!nk.
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Mariah hasn't been relevant in music for 10 years
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Correct. Adele, Beyoncé, Taylor, and Rihanna are the next pop girls in line, but they still won't touch her peak.
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Originally posted by Touchdown
we're talking 16 weeks at number one sis, not 16 inches from brow to hairline. We're talking 18 number one songs, not 18 features. We're talking 200+ million albums sold, not 200+ million free streams. We're talking 5 octaves, not a frog croak. So no she hasn't.
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Originally posted by Syňth
Mariah hasn't been relevant in music for 10 years
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Among the hip hop, pop, and R&B artists who have cited Carey as an influence are Adele, Aneeka, Ariana Grande, Britney Spears, Beyoncé, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Bridgit Mendler, Christina Aguilera, Jessica Simpson, Rihanna, Grimes, Kelly Clarkson, Nelly Furtado, Bonnie McKee, Leona Lewis, Brandy Norwood, Pink, Mary J. Blige, Melanie Fiona, Missy Elliott, Sam Smith, Hikaru Utada, Regine Velasquez, Sarah Geronimo, Charice, Jordin Sparks, Justin Bieber, and Jessica Sanchez.
According to Stevie Wonder, "When people talk about the great influential singers, they talk about Aretha, Whitney and Mariah. That's a testament to her talent. Her range is that amazing."
Beyoncé credits Carey's singing and her song "Vision of Love" as influencing her to begin practicing vocal "runs" as a child, as well as helping her pursue a career as a musician.
Rihanna has stated that Carey is one of her major influences and idol.
Christina Aguilera said in the early stages of her career that Carey was a big influence in her singing career and one of her idols.
http://prince.org/msg/8/422742 - a very long read but so worth it!
Hopefully people here will give Mariah the respect she deserves before she dies, not after.
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Originally posted by Syňth
Mariah hasn't been relevant in music for 10 years
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She has charted every year of the last ten years with the exception of 2007. Try again.
Your faves will keep her relevant as well. Fact.
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