[Desire]

Originally posted by ThugginGrande

If you all are going to pretend Ariana has no solo power when FOUR out of her FIVE solo singles peaked #13 or higher, then yes, I will discredit Zedd for not having a solo top 40. I realize he's a producer, but Calvin Harris has many solo hits.

I actually love Ariana and just wish she would choose more solo songs as singles such as Greedy and I wish Dangerous Woman as a single did a lot better so I'm not pretending anything.

Also Calvin has actually made singles with just his vocals so of course he has solo hits. Something other producers/djs such as Zedd have not done

[Pikachoo]

the ariana/miley debate

they are friends and secondly Miley has a #1 something her fellow young peers cannot say so

[All In My Head]

Originally posted by Cain

I don't really mind Miley but let's not act like she didn't need a lot of antics to get those hits.

Damn forgot about that. I guess both Miley and Ari lose

[Jet]

Originally posted by BadBoy

Another fun fact that fentydelspears just made me realise is that neither WCS or WB needed airplay to actually chart since Miley was kinda banned on radio during the Bangerz era unlike Ariana who is heavily promoted by them...

Wrecking Ball did well in airplay tho. Besides, how is being a flop on radio something to brag about?

[Rom]

Originally posted by Cookie

Wrecking Ball did well in airplay tho. Besides, how is being a flop on radio something to brag about?

Seems obvious, no? Finding success without radio radio support shows true appreciation from the public.

[Romantica]

Originally posted by Cookie

Almost all of her top 10 hits were in the past decade. Not sure if this achievement really means that much.

so what

[Chevysus]

Originally posted by igninton

Does miley cyrus still have stans?

Do they know it's not 2013 anymore?

not a Demi stan

[BadBoy]

Originally posted by Cookie

Wrecking Ball did well in airplay tho. Besides, how is being a flop on radio something to brag about?

Yeah well Miley doing great in airplay is not the same as Ariana doing great in airplay, you know what I mean, right? And they started to play WB once the video was released/hit #1 because it wasn't well received in the beginning.

[PoisonPill]

Originally posted by Cookie

Wrecking Ball did well in airplay tho. Besides, how is being a flop on radio something to brag about?

Because radio is a rigged game that has very little to do with what people actually like?

[Oxygen]

They may be solo, but can you at least tell me why they are all forgotten?

Lets look at the stats shall we?

US iTunes:
#17 Side to Side (feat. Nicki Minaj)
#98 Side to Side (feat. Nicki Minaj)
#103 Into You
#116 Dangerous Woman
#547 Bang Bang (feat. Jessie J and Nicki Minaj)
#555 Let Me Love You
#786 Santa Tell Me
#991 Problem (feat. Iggy Azalea)
#1054 Break Free
#1072 One Last Time
#1106 Love Me Harder (feat. The Weeknd)
#1277 Focus
#1418 Be Alright

#583 Party In The USA
#746 The Climb
#1285 Wrecking Ball

Despite having so much power attached to her name apparently, all 5 singles from My Everything are still charting higher than Wrecking Ball, including her two solo singles from it and the 'flop' solo Focus is even higher

And don't let me bring up the YouTube stats, as for an 'iconic' video, Wrecking Ball getting only 100k views per day and predicted to hit 1B in four years is tragic, with Problem and Side to Side going to cross 1B by mid next year. Even if I don't compare it to Ariana due to her hits coming out later than Bangerz, many less iconic videos that came out before it are getting many more views per day, such as Diamonds, You Belong With Me and Roar which still getting over 1m per day.

I don't know about y'all, but I'd rather having successful features that are actually remembered and still have great streaming stats than a solo that soared high and then crashed

[Jet]

Originally posted by Rom

Seems obvious, no? Finding success without radio radio support shows true appreciation from the public.

Finding success in all metrics is more impressive tbh

[taylor__fan]

Miley has more star power, I love Ariana but she proved this era that she really needs a feature to have a huge hit

[BadBoy]

Originally posted by Oxygen

They may be solo, but can you at least tell me why they are all forgotten?

Lets look at the stats shall we?

US iTunes:
#17 Side to Side (feat. Nicki Minaj)
#98 Side to Side (feat. Nicki Minaj)
#103 Into You
#116 Dangerous Woman
#547 Bang Bang (feat. Jessie J and Nicki Minaj)
#555 Let Me Love You
#786 Santa Tell Me
#991 Problem (feat. Iggy Azalea)
#1054 Break Free
#1072 One Last Time
#1106 Love Me Harder (feat. The Weeknd)
#1277 Focus
#1418 Be Alright

#583 Party In The USA
#746 The Climb
#1285 Wrecking Ball

Despite having so much power attached to her name apparently, all 5 singles from My Everything are still charting higher than Wrecking Ball, including her two solo singles from it and the 'flop' Focus is even higher

And don't let me bring up the YouTube stats, as for an 'iconic' video, Wrecking Ball getting only 100k views per day and predicted to hit 1B in four years is tragic, with Problem and Side to Side going to cross 1B by mid next year.

I don't know about y'all, but I'd rather having successful features that are actually remembered and still have great streaming stats than a solo that soared high and then crashed

The nerve...

There is nothing memorable about Ariana's career other than her ponytale yet you attemp to call PITUSA (a 7M selling song) or WB (4M selling song) forgotten. But go ahead and brag about itunes positions that don't mean nothing anymore considering the sales climate, let's see if Problem (Ariana's biggest hit) finally outsells WB in the US.

[Thuggin]

Originally posted by Oxygen

They may be solo, but can you at least tell me why they are all forgotten?

Lets look at the stats shall we?

US iTunes:
#17 Side to Side (feat. Nicki Minaj)
#98 Side to Side (feat. Nicki Minaj)
#103 Into You
#116 Dangerous Woman
#547 Bang Bang (feat. Jessie J and Nicki Minaj)
#555 Let Me Love You
#786 Santa Tell Me
#991 Problem (feat. Iggy Azalea)
#1054 Break Free
#1072 One Last Time
#1106 Love Me Harder (feat. The Weeknd)
#1277 Focus
#1418 Be Alright

#583 Party In The USA
#746 The Climb
#1285 Wrecking Ball

Despite having so much power attached to her name apparently, all 5 singles from My Everything are still charting higher than Wrecking Ball, including her two solo singles from it and the 'flop' solo Focus is even higher

And don't let me bring up the YouTube stats, as for an 'iconic' video, Wrecking Ball getting only 100k views per day and predicted to hit 1B in four years is tragic, with Problem and Side to Side going to cross 1B by mid next year. Even if I don't compare it to Ariana due to her hits coming out later than Bangerz, many less iconic videos that came out before it are getting many more views per day, such as Diamonds, You Belong With Me and Roar which still getting over 1m per day.

I don't know about y'all, but I'd rather having successful features that are actually remembered and still have great streaming stats than a solo that soared high and then crashed

Originally posted by BadBoy

The nerve...

There is nothing memorable about Ariana's career other than her ponytale yet you attemp to call PITUSA (a 7M selling song) or WB (4M selling song) forgotten. But go ahead and brag about itunes positions that don't mean nothing anymore considering the sales climate, let's see if Problem (Ariana's biggest hit) finally outsells WB in the US.

And how about Today's Most Viewed Music Videos too.

2. Side To Side
60. Into You
167. Dangerous Woman
170. Let Me Love You
171. Focus
183. Break Free
195. Problem
248. My Favorite Part (feat. Ariana Grande)
261. Bang Bang
440. 23 ft. Miley Cyrus

Would you look at that. The only song charting from Miley is 23, a song she is FEATURED on. Not even a lead with a feature like some of Ariana's.

If Miley is so memorable and Ariana isn't, why is Ariana's channel getting 11.747 million views a day while Miley's channel is getting 1.021 million views a day (the lowest in the top 50 most viewed channels besides Jason Derulo)?

[Oxygen]

Originally posted by BadBoy

The nerve...

There is nothing memorable about Ariana's career other than her ponytale yet you attemp to call PITUSA (a 7M selling song) or WB (4M selling song) forgotten. But go ahead and brag about itunes positions that don't mean nothing anymore considering the sales climate, let's see if Problem (Ariana's biggest hit) finally outsells WB in the US.

They were very successful at the time I'm not arguing that, I'm just saying in 2016 their recurrent stats aren't impressive at all, with many songs released around the same time or earlier that were less iconic doing better and all of Ariana's songs, despite being features, from Problem onwards is higher than Wrecking Ball. I can use streaming stats if you'd like instead, even though I'd get the same result

[BadBoy]

Because Ariana was born in the Streaming era and she is still out there working while Miley is just enjoying life with her animals... you guys seem new.

WB broke the record for most views in a week at her time, and streaming wasn't as big as it is now. Which makes it more impressive.

Also PITUSA comes back every 4th of July to the top 100 of itunes, Ariana doesn't have that. So please don't try to tell me she is forgotten, specially her music.

[Oxygen]

Originally posted by ThugginGrande

And how about Today's Most Viewed Music Videos too.

2. Side To Side
60. Into You
167. Dangerous Woman
170. Let Me Love You
171. Focus
183. Break Free
195. Problem
248. My Favorite Part (feat. Ariana Grande)
261. Bang Bang
440. 23 ft. Miley Cyrus

Would you look at that. The only song charting from Miley is 23, a song she is FEATURED on. Not even a lead with a feature like some of Ariana's.

If Miley is so memorable and Ariana isn't, why is Ariana's channel getting 11.747 million views a day while Miley's channel is getting 1.021 million views a day (the lowest in the top 50 most viewed channels besides Jason Derulo)?

I thought her solo power will pull through though?
Guess she has to rely upon her features like her 'peers' then

[Oxygen]

Originally posted by BadBoy

Because Ariana was born in the Streaming era and she is still out there working while Miley is just enjoying life with her animals... you guys seem new.

So I point out that Ariana's songs are all higher on the charts right now than Miley's but that wasn't good enough, so we bring out streaming stats but that wasn't good enough either? Okay then

And she was just a main judge on The Voice, she has been in the public eye even more than Ariana has been but whatever

[Wicked]

tbh stop comparing Miley to the likes of Ariana & Selena.

Lowkey disrespectful.

Nobody comparing Bieber to Shawn Mendes or Charlie Puth.

[BadBoy]

Originally posted by Oxygen

So I point out that Ariana's songs are all higher on the charts right now than Miley's but that wasn't good enough, so we bring out streaming stats but that wasn't good enough either? Okay then

And she was just a main judge on The Voice, she has been in the public eye even more than Ariana has been but whatever

You are just trolling at this point or you are just extremely biased... you know what I mean... Miley is not releasing albums/singles every year like Ariana is.