[lightstheyblindme]

Originally posted by GarageGlamorous

The fact that some people honestly want Oprah 2020 though.

Although the debates would definitely be a kii.

omg the gifs alone from those debates

[Dessy Fenix]

Originally posted by midnightdawn

I stan for Elizabeth but I have doubts about her as President. She would have been the perfect VP for Hillary, but Trump would drag her for being a university professor and frame her as an out of touch liberal safe space academic who doesn't look or sound Presidential. Plus I can see her getting flustered or putting her foot in her mouth on foreign policy questions like Bernie sometimes did.

This is how I feel. Warren seems ideal yet not really all that perfect at the same time. I can see her unraveling mid-way through a primary tbh.

[thedeathbymusic]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

Elizabeth Warren would be another Hillary situation where, come election day, her favorables would drop to the floor.
Like it or not, there's a deep rooted misogyny in this country and a lot of it comes from women themselves who hate seeing other women succeed. And of course there's the male fragility thingy.

Just no. No women.

This whole "no women" argument is just NOT valid when a woman has gained more votes then any other presidential candidate in history, besides Obama in 2008. Girl bye with your misogyny
.

[Lord Blackout]

Waren would become hated just like Hillary. The Indian American thing would become a viral meme and everyone would mock her for it. Also, her silence on DAPL.

[Dessy Fenix]

There's Harris, Gillibrand, Warren.

But what do the men have to offer besides Bernie and Biden? People are already starting to question Booker for one.

[Sanctuary]

Warren just feels too similar to Hillary. Democrats would be read for taking the "rinse-and-repeat" approach, learning nothing. Next.

[Mike91]

Originally posted by midnightdawn

I stan for Elizabeth but I have doubts about her as President. She would have been the perfect VP for Hillary, but Trump would drag her for being a university professor and frame her as an out of touch liberal safe space academic who doesn't look or sound Presidential. Plus I can see her getting flustered or putting her foot in her mouth on foreign policy questions like Bernie sometimes did.

I agree. But she would definitely make an excellent VP choice. I'd still like to see her run in 2020 though, just to see how she does.

Either way, 2020 will be just as big of a mess as 2016, especially if Trump is at the top of the ticket again. I also imagine someone will try to primary him as well.

[lightstheyblindme]

Originally posted by Dessy Fenix

This is how I feel. Warren seems ideal yet not really all that perfect at the same time. I can see her unraveling mid-way through a primary tbh.

I don't think so, her Senate race was pretty long and brutal and I thought she held up really well throughout the whole ordeal

[Mike91]

Originally posted by Dessy Fenix

There's Harris, Gillibrand, Warren.

But what do the men have to offer besides Bernie and Biden? People are already starting to question Booker for one.

I feel like I'm the only person that just doesn't get the Booker appeal. He's definitely no Obama, if that's the connection people try to make, and I thought his speech at the DNC this year was terrible.

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by thedeathbymusic

This whole "no women" argument is just NOT valid when a woman has gained more votes then any other presidential candidate in history, besides Obama in 2008. Girl bye with your misogyny
.

Yes and that woman had to go through LockHerUp and BernTheWitch to get there and still couldn't win the election. Not sure if that proves my point or yours.
Not to mention her favorables now aren't nearly as good Hillary's were 4 years before the election and we all saw how that ship sailed. America is not ready for a female president. It's just the truth.

[Dessy Fenix]

Kii if Trump get primary'd by Kasich and McCullin and maybe Cruz

[midnightdawn]

What about Sheryl Sandberg? I don't think she'd run, but a person like that who is out of politics and has business credentials.

[Mike91]

Originally posted by lightstheyblindme

I don't think so, her Senate race was pretty long and brutal and I thought she held up really well throughout the whole ordeal

I also agree with this. If people want to see how she'd handle herself, I'd look back on that. She did great.

But that was also a very liberal state she was running in.

I'm still here for Oprah 2020 though.

[Dessy Fenix]

Originally posted by lightstheyblindme

I don't think so, her Senate race was pretty long and brutal and I thought she held up really well throughout the whole ordeal

Meh I would feel better if she did it in somewhere like Missouri or Arizona.

[King Maxx]

NO BUSINESS. We need to reach out to others, but never forget our views.

We actually know those are the bad guys, not the politicians.

[King Maxx]

If somehow Elizabeth becomes "establishment" and "centrist" and "status quo", then you can miss me with this country. I'm not here for a left-wing socialist party or a right-wing capitalist party.

[Lord Blackout]

I'm gonna need the democrats to step aside and let the GOP ruin these ****ers' livelihoods for the sake of having them voting democratic for the next 20 years.

[King Maxx]

And I already see it coming. Elizabeth has joined the Armed Services Committee (like Hillary did), and she's going to get blamed by these "progressives" for being too hawkish and the cause of Trump's messes (like Bush). Ugh.

[lightstheyblindme]

Originally posted by Dessy Fenix

Meh I would feel better if she did it in somewhere like Missouri or Arizona.

fair enough but Massachusetts isn't as liberal as people think - outside of Boston/Cambridge there are a lot of conservatives

[Dessy Fenix]

We... really are ****ed until 2024, aren't we?