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Discussion: BB: Before Beyoncé, artists relied on traditional marketing
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Everyone wants to be like Beyoncé.
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Originally posted by FBF
Artists have been releasing digitally ever since iTunes became a thing.
Artists have had vague release dates (some announce a month, a season, Q1/2/3/4), Rihanna did by announcing when the tour would start.
Yes it was.
It wasn't a surprise release. It wasn't a visual album.
Beyoncé did not, in any way, shape, or form, influenced ANTI's release.
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Let me help you out
"Where did I say Anti was a surprise realese?" Never did
"Was it not a digital release?" YES.
Were her albums pre-Beyoncé digital exclusives? No
"Did it or didn't it have any pre-released dates like her previous albums?" No set release date like her previous albums
"Was it a traditional release?" NO.
All NEW marketing from the norm.
Thank you for your services.
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Originally posted by PULSE.
You must can't release or understand what you are reading, I say this slowly for you cupcake. Non-traditional does not only applies for surprise releases. I had to re-read what I wrote trying to locate "Adele surprised released her album"
When you find those exact words please be free and quote it for me, cupcake. Cause right the connection with your reading and your brain aren't clicking.
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Do not get into petty personal attacks, especially when you claim TV ads are a new mean of marketing.
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Originally posted by PULSE.
Let me help you out
Where did I say Anti was a surprise realese? Never did
Was it not a digital release? YES.
Did it or didn't it have any pre-released dates like her previous albums? No set release date like her previous albums
Was it a traditional release? NO.
All means NEW marketing from the norm.
Thank you for your services.
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Thank you for that 
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Originally posted by LOUAY
Everyone wants to be like Beyoncé.
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Duh!
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Originally posted by PULSE.
Still was a forum of NEW marketing. You ppl stay "playing" dumb....
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Yeah right. 'Cause new forms of marketing emerged only after Beyonce. It's not like marketing people search for new ways each and every time. Can you give me a break already? I agree with you that Beyonce is successful, she's a great vocalist and she is talented but like I said all this praise for nothing is not authentic at all and we all know where it's coming from.
xoxo Prince Lightning
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Originally posted by FBF
Do not get into petty personal attacks, especially when you claim TV ads are a new mean of marketing.
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I mean even the Adele Stan said "99% traditional", so that's mean 1% non-traditional. Let me play dumb with y'all lol
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Originally posted by PULSE.
I mean even the Adele Stan said "99% traditional", so that's mean 1% non-traditional. Let me play dumb with y'all lol
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Oh you're playing dumb ! Gosh, I was so scared you actually thought Beyoncé invented digital release or no set release dates.
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Originally posted by FBF
Oh you're playing dumb ! Gosh, I was so scared you actually thought Beyoncé invented digital release or no set release dates. |
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Pre-Beyoncé, artists relied on traditional marketing for new music: lead single, radio spins, TV appearances....
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Too bad it didn't work out so well for Frank and Kanye 
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Pulse CLOCKING left and right ffdskhg
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Originally posted by PULSE.
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Which is why it was pretty dumb of you saying Adele's TV ad is a new form of marketing. Hihi.
Adele had TV appearances, a lead single, and radio spins.
Rihanna had multiple TV appearances during the first botch of ANTI, Work the lead single still came out before the album (although JUST before), she had radio spins as well.
Even Lemonade did not follow the pattern set by BEYONCE, Formation was promoted in a TV appearance way before the album came out, which made it fairly obvious Beyoncé had new music in the way, she still retained the visual element though.
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Originally posted by PrinceLightning
This is so laughable at this point, really. Literally nobody's doing what she's doing so artists still rely on traditional marketing. Literally nobody did the "surprise release" after she did it, literally nobody did the "visual" type of release she did. Like... where are all these opinions about changing anything are coming from? She literally had no impact and didn't change anything (except her ways of releasing albums) with these releases because nobody did them after. Can somebody explain to me if they have more receipts? No shade, no hate but all this praise for nothing seems so exaggerated to me and it doesn't seem authentic at all.
xoxo Prince Lightning
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I will never forget this day.
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After seven months of semi-public back-and-forth, a conversation instigated in part by Aussie piracy and Beyonce's surprise release in December of 2013 has resulted in the global recording industry accepting Friday as the release date for new albums.
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http://www.billboard.com/articles/bu...lease-day-ifpi
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Pre-Beyoncé, artists relied on traditional marketing for new music: lead single, radio spins, TV appearances....
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Lead Single: Formation
Radio Spins: She had them, lol
TV Appearances: She had a whole damn feature.
And she's not the first to do a surprise release.
She's not the first to do a visual album.
This is just ass-kissing and it's kinda stale at this point. Tragic.
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Originally posted by St. Charles
Lead Single: Formation
Radio Spins: She had them, lol
TV Appearances: She had a whole damn feature.
And she's not the first to do a surprise release.
She's not the first to do a visual album.
This is just ass-kissing and it's kinda stale at this point. Tragic.
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Formation wasn't even released to radio and the video was unlisted. And we didn't have any knowledge when Formation was dropping. Formation was released for free via Tidal ONLY. LEMONADE was introduce through HBO, and we had no idea what LEMONADE was or that the album would follow. So ONCE more, it's different from Self-Titled's release, but still a non- traditional roll out, which brings us back to BB's point.
No, it's just FACTS, cupcake
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Originally posted by PULSE.
Formation wasn't even released to radio and the video was unlisted. And we didn't have any knowledge when Formation was dtopping. Formation was released for free via Tidal only. LEMONADE was introduce through HBO, and we had no idea what LEMONADE was or that the album would follow. So ONCE more, it's different from Self-Titled'S release, but still a non- traditional roll out, but you know this... just can't deal
No, it's just FACTS, cupcake
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Formation was still released for sale eventually and Sorry was supported on radio.
Lemonade the short film was still a TV feature.
Not necessarily 100% traditional, but she's just using her own hype to generate album sales. How is that groundbreaking?
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Originally posted by St. Charles
Formation was still released for sale eventually and Sorry was supported on radio.
Lemonade the short film was still a TV feature.
Not necessarily 100% traditional, but she's just using her own hype to generate album sales. How is that groundbreaking?
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Sweetie, Formation was up for sale once the album was released 3 months later. Just uploaded the video to VEVO 9 months later
LEMONADE the visual album was heard for the first time via HBO
I mean, I know you all hate Beyoncé and mad at the praise she gets but denying the truth when you don't have ONE leg to stand on.
Ur let me cut this short
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Not necessarily 100% traditional,
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Pre-Beyoncé, artists relied on traditional marketing for new music: lead single, radio spins, TV appearance(s)
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Originally posted by PULSE.
Sweetie, Formation was up for sale once the album was released 3 months later. Just uploaded the video to VEVO 9 months later
LEMONADE the visual album was heard for the first time via HBO
I mean, I know you all hate Beyoncé and mad at the praise she gets BUY denying the truth when you don't have ONE leg to stand on.
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You still haven't proven to me that she hasn't had radio spins or a TV feature. Why? Because that is false. So that part is wrong. Glad we cleared that up.
Still not the first to surprise release.
Still not the first to do a digital album.
Still, the only unique thing she did was play her own hype factor to her advantage, which again, she wasn't the first to do. :/
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I'm hardly a Beyonce fan, but it's really amazing how bitter and pressed people get over her. I pity the people who try to derail every thread with sales talk. Partly because that's just the complete wrong way to follow music, partly because nobody other than people actually getting cheques and stupid stans give a **** about how much anyone (not named Adele  ) sells.
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